Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 No, this is the LDM rash - keep giving the dosage that was instructed via DA. You need him to continue on - he is excreting something. Look at the ldm recap in the files - it talks about what you can do if the rash becoming itchy or bothersome. Lorina > > My 5 yr old was started on LDM100 (7 drops twice a day) one and half > months back. Dr Amy then increased his dose to 11 drops twice a day > 2 weeks back, and he has been on this dose since then. 2 days back > he developed these red rashes on one cheek and ears and then > yesterday his neck was very itchy and with red rashes. This morning > parts of his chest and hands and now, it has come down also to his > bottom and legs. It is pretty itchy and is red and patchy (probably > similar to one of the pics posted in the files section, although to > a much lesser extent). Since it is so itchy, I am wondering whether > he has had an allergic reaction to something or whether it could be > due to the LDM. I read all previous posts and the files which all > indicate that the latest time the rash has appeared is around 10 > days after starting LDM. It has been much longer for us, so I am > wondering if there is any possibility if could be the LDM rash? I > really want to avoid taking him to the pediatrician who always tries > to put him on antibiotics for everything! Behaviorally, he has been > acting pretty yeasty and also lot of verbal stimming, but this has > been since more than a month. The only other new thing we have added > is cumanda 2 weeks back. > Any advise would be helpful. I am wondering if I should skip his > LDM100 dose tonight. > > Thanks, > Rohini > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Rohini, I agree with Lorina, and believe you rashed later because you were on such a low dose until 2 weeks ago. As you upped your dose, your viral detox went up and that's when his bodies excretion went out through the skin. When the rest of us rashed around day 8/9 we had gone to higher doses earlier on. Like Lorina said, check the files for the Recap and we give suggestions for soothing the itch. Temporarily you may want to cut back a little to lower the die-off like DA recommends in her TACA presentation (also in the files). You hit the Jackpot...Congratulations on the immune response! Rita > > > > My 5 yr old was started on LDM100 (7 drops twice a day) one and > half > > months back. Dr Amy then increased his dose to 11 drops twice a day > > 2 weeks back, and he has been on this dose since then. 2 days back > > he developed these red rashes on one cheek and ears and then > > yesterday his neck was very itchy and with red rashes. This morning > > parts of his chest and hands and now, it has come down also to his > > bottom and legs. It is pretty itchy and is red and patchy (probably > > similar to one of the pics posted in the files section, although to > > a much lesser extent). Since it is so itchy, I am wondering whether > > he has had an allergic reaction to something or whether it could be > > due to the LDM. I read all previous posts and the files which all > > indicate that the latest time the rash has appeared is around 10 > > days after starting LDM. It has been much longer for us, so I am > > wondering if there is any possibility if could be the LDM rash? I > > really want to avoid taking him to the pediatrician who always > tries > > to put him on antibiotics for everything! Behaviorally, he has been > > acting pretty yeasty and also lot of verbal stimming, but this has > > been since more than a month. The only other new thing we have > added > > is cumanda 2 weeks back. > > Any advise would be helpful. I am wondering if I should skip his > > LDM100 dose tonight. > > > > Thanks, > > Rohini > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 My son was under 2 doctor's care while doing the ldm-100 - and being the 2nd person to do this with a asd child we were monitored closely. (We know a lot more now with the data we *Rita/I* have been gathering from many families.) My son was up to 25 drops 2x a day - we got the rash on day 9 Lorina > > > > > > > > My 5 yr old was started on LDM100 (7 drops twice a day) one and > > > half > > > > months back. Dr Amy then increased his dose to 11 drops twice a > > day > > > > 2 weeks back, and he has been on this dose since then. 2 days > > back > > > > he developed these red rashes on one cheek and ears and then > > > > yesterday his neck was very itchy and with red rashes. This > > morning > > > > parts of his chest and hands and now, it has come down also to > > his > > > > bottom and legs. It is pretty itchy and is red and patchy > > (probably > > > > similar to one of the pics posted in the files section, > although > > to > > > > a much lesser extent). Since it is so itchy, I am wondering > > whether > > > > he has had an allergic reaction to something or whether it > could > > be > > > > due to the LDM. I read all previous posts and the files which > > all > > > > indicate that the latest time the rash has appeared is around > 10 > > > > days after starting LDM. It has been much longer for us, so I > am > > > > wondering if there is any possibility if could be the LDM rash? > > I > > > > really want to avoid taking him to the pediatrician who always > > > tries > > > > to put him on antibiotics for everything! Behaviorally, he has > > been > > > > acting pretty yeasty and also lot of verbal stimming, but this > > has > > > > been since more than a month. The only other new thing we have > > > added > > > > is cumanda 2 weeks back. > > > > Any advise would be helpful. I am wondering if I should skip > his > > > > LDM100 dose tonight. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rohini > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Hi Rohini, has the rash too--it is only fitting that we have our LDM rash at the same time since we were at DA's together! My dh and I had a short get away to celebrate our anniversary and left with his older brother overnight (a first for that) and lo and behold we get back and poor looks awful. Bright red rash everywhere (the worst on his thighs) and really chapped lips. I have the neem and aloe going and he doesn't seem too itchy but he is glassy eyed and tired. I lowered his dose for today just a smidgen. Just FYI we are using the capsules and our dose is one a day and we got the rash on day 7. I think the caps are 500mg but I don't know what that translates to in drops. I am praying for some gains after this layer of toxins is out and die off is over, it would be so great to have it be a hit like it was for RIta and Lorina. All the best, > > > > > > > > > > My 5 yr old was started on LDM100 (7 drops twice a day) one > and > > > > half > > > > > months back. Dr Amy then increased his dose to 11 drops twice > a > > > day > > > > > 2 weeks back, and he has been on this dose since then. 2 days > > > back > > > > > he developed these red rashes on one cheek and ears and then > > > > > yesterday his neck was very itchy and with red rashes. This > > > morning > > > > > parts of his chest and hands and now, it has come down also > to > > > his > > > > > bottom and legs. It is pretty itchy and is red and patchy > > > (probably > > > > > similar to one of the pics posted in the files section, > > although > > > to > > > > > a much lesser extent). Since it is so itchy, I am wondering > > > whether > > > > > he has had an allergic reaction to something or whether it > > could > > > be > > > > > due to the LDM. I read all previous posts and the files which > > > all > > > > > indicate that the latest time the rash has appeared is around > > 10 > > > > > days after starting LDM. It has been much longer for us, so I > > am > > > > > wondering if there is any possibility if could be the LDM > rash? > > > I > > > > > really want to avoid taking him to the pediatrician who > always > > > > tries > > > > > to put him on antibiotics for everything! Behaviorally, he > has > > > been > > > > > acting pretty yeasty and also lot of verbal stimming, but > this > > > has > > > > > been since more than a month. The only other new thing we > have > > > > added > > > > > is cumanda 2 weeks back. > > > > > Any advise would be helpful. I am wondering if I should skip > > his > > > > > LDM100 dose tonight. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Rohini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Does anyone know how ldm100 works compared to virastop? We used the high dose virastop protocol and kept upping the dosage the same way and seeing viral sores and rashes come out, so I was wondering if both substances were working on identical viruses or different ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 , I'm not knowledgable enough on Virastop to compare the 2. I can tell you what we were told about the LDM-100 from the herbalist. From The 2 most important traits about the LDM-100 in the LDM-100 Recap in the files: the LDM-100 Recap in the files: " 3. How it works: It reduces the red blood cells (which is NOT a bad thing for the body during the time it is happening, which may cause a couple of days of tiredness. When this happens it attaches itself to the virus, which in turn makes the T-cells believe there are foreign objects in the body and attacks it (tricking it to think this way, is HOW it kills the viruses). As it starts to kill it begins to excrete out of the body (normal excretion is urine, stool and excess may come out of skin. Digestive upset and/or stool issues may occur with major die off bowl movements, which can be loose to diarrhea. 6. It not only kills the virus, it also makes the cell slippery so the virus claws fall off the cells. Being a natural anti-viral as well as anti-bacterial it works on A LOT of different viruses and bacterias. The other thing that I notice directly is in the control group here in WA directly under the herbalists care, we only upped from the 5 drops for 3-5 days to the 15-25 drops depending on the kid. was on like 20 drops for a long time. He never fluctuated far from 15-20 drops. He just went from 15 to 18 drops 2x a day, and has done well with that. Long term it's killing a lot of stuff...but he doesn't need to keep upping the dose to keep getting a rash. With the LDM-100 we were told we would only rash the one time for the initial die-off, then the bodies toxin dump will be able to handle the load without going through the skin. Hope this helps. Rita > > Does anyone know how ldm100 works compared to virastop? We used the high dose virastop protocol and kept upping the dosage the same way and seeing viral sores and rashes come out, so I was wondering if both substances were working on identical viruses or different ones. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Rita, Thank you so much for posting how LDM-100 works in the body as antiviral. After failing two trials of LDM-100, I have been wondering about the reasons that Ingvar did not tolerate the herb, and most intriguingly when the good timing is to reintroduce. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that Ingvar had active Babesia infection, which had infected his red blood cells. In another words, he did not have a good number of working, healthy red blood cells, so his body might not be able to tolerate further reduction of red blood cells. This is just speculation. I would very much like to hear from those who have active Babesia and have tried LDM-100. Thanks. Limin -------------------------------------------------- Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 00:52 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > Subject: Re: Rash ? > , I'm not knowledgable enough on Virastop to compare the 2. I > can tell you what we were told about the LDM-100 from the herbalist. > > From The 2 most important traits about the LDM-100 in the LDM-100 > Recap in the files: > the LDM-100 Recap in the files: > > " 3. How it works: It reduces the red blood cells (which is NOT a > bad thing for the body during the time it is happening, which may > cause a couple of days of tiredness. When this happens it attaches > itself to the virus, which in turn makes the T-cells believe there > are foreign objects in the body and attacks it (tricking it to think > this way, is HOW it kills the viruses). As it starts to kill it > begins to excrete out of the body (normal excretion is urine, stool > and excess may come out of skin. Digestive upset and/or stool issues > may occur with major die off bowl movements, which can be loose to > diarrhea. > > 6. It not only kills the virus, it also makes the cell slippery > so the virus claws fall off the cells. > > Being a natural anti-viral as well as anti-bacterial it works on A > LOT of different viruses and bacterias. The other thing that I > notice directly is in the control group here in WA directly under > the herbalists care, we only upped from the 5 drops for 3-5 days to > the 15-25 drops depending on the kid. was on like 20 drops > for a long time. He never fluctuated far from 15-20 drops. He just > went from 15 to 18 drops 2x a day, and has done well with that. Long > term it's killing a lot of stuff...but he doesn't need to keep > upping the dose to keep getting a rash. With the LDM-100 we were > told we would only rash the one time for the initial die-off, then > the bodies toxin dump will be able to handle the load without going > through the skin. > Hope this helps. > Rita > > > >> >> Does anyone know how ldm100 works compared to virastop? We used > the high dose virastop protocol and kept upping the dosage the same > way and seeing viral sores and rashes come out, so I was wondering > if both substances were working on identical viruses or different > ones. >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Yes, thank you this is wonderful that we have many options of ways to kill off viruses and not just three or four ways. Well for one thing, the high dose virastop protocol cost $250 per person with a company 50% discount....so how much does the LDM 100 cost? If there is a huge cost difference it could mean a lot. How would LDM 100 effect an autoimmune disease is something else I would need to figure out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 , If you order the LDM-100 right from Barlow Herbal telling her you have a ASD child with our group discount, you get the large 2oz bottle for about $18 + tax...lasts 1-2 months...can't beat the price...that's another thing that makes this so great! Rita > > Yes, thank you this is wonderful that we have many options of ways to kill off viruses and not just three or four ways. Well for one thing, the high dose virastop protocol cost $250 per person with a company 50% discount....so how much does the LDM 100 cost? If there is a huge cost difference it could mean a lot. > > How would LDM 100 effect an autoimmune disease is something else I would need to figure out. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Limin, Time, testing and other parent reports especially as verified by Zyto/other biomeridian and lab reports done during the detox cycle will tell on this one. Here's my thoughts...again time will tell. I'm thinking it is more he has to big of toxin load (not just the lyme/co-infections) for the detox pathways ablility to handle the die-off that may be more of the issue with the LDM-100. I'm thinking he still may need to reduce his toxin load and build his excretion pathways to handle the toxin dump. I feel like detectives..... Can't wait for other parent reports to surface in the group as we get reports on the kids currently detoxing. Rita > >> > >> Does anyone know how ldm100 works compared to virastop? We used > > the high dose virastop protocol and kept upping the dosage the same > > way and seeing viral sores and rashes come out, so I was wondering > > if both substances were working on identical viruses or different > > ones. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 This is an unbelievable price for a powerful antiviral. I think I paid something like $38 dollars for the monolaurin. Each virastop was something like $25 with the discount but two months worth was like 15 bottles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Stacey, Thank you so much for posting this!!! Wow, look at all the viruses, Hep A & B, Babesia and Borrelia!! Can you report on the levels prior to the LDM-100 so we can compare the differences. I can't wait to see the next ones too. This is fantastic info!!! Thanks again for posting! Rita > > Limin, > > Here is a copy of my son's Zyto report. We did this session right in the middle of his worst LDM rash day........Keep in mind this isn't the whole test we usually run, I just had Payne run just viruses: > > stacey > p.s. I wish I had the money to run this every day he had the rash....but, I don't. > > > > > > Viral Stressor Assessment > > > 167.81 > 167.81 > Coronavirus > > > > -160.76 > -160.76 > sackie Virus A > > > > -167.28 > -167.28 > sackie Virus A7 > > > > -47.46 > -47.46 > sackie Virus B > > > > 83.33 > 83.33 > sackie Virus B1 > > > > -146.31 > -146.31 > sackie Virus B2 > > > > 54.60 > 54.60 > sackie Virus B3 > > > > 103.27 > 103.27 > sackie Virus B6 > > > > -52.11 > -52.11 > Cytomegalovirus Infection > > > > 88.97 > 88.97 > Enteroviruses > > > > 219.32 > 219.32 > Epstein-Barr Virus -nos > > > > 60.00 > 60.00 > Human Herpes Virus 6 & 7 > > > > 437.33 > 437.33 > Miscellaneous Viruses > > > 96 CHILDHOOD VACCINATION > > > 702.22 > 702.22 > Hepatitis A Vaccine (HepA) > > > > 114.90 > 114.90 > Hepatitis B Vaccine (HepB) > > > > -139.31 > -139.31 > Measles > > > 0022 BIO POINT LYMES PANEL > > > -105.68 > -105.68 > Babesia Microti > > > > 197.20 > 197.20 > Borrelia Burgdorferi > > > > 341.57 > 341.57 > Borrelia Burgdorferi (Lyme) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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