Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 And just to add more complication... Alot of substances (including the enxymes or enzymatic precursors - the antioxidants, the NSAIDS - the 'natural' substances - and the other substances in the numerous non-drug products various people on this list take) have properties that change after they're metabolized - and do not react the same in every person..then they go on to react (or not) with components of our immune system. There's alot more chemical interaction happening than we get into on these lists - So there some truth to probably everything someone says .. but it won't be gospel for everyone.. That's why only percentages of people are helped by certain protocols. But the magic bullet sure would be nice to find.... I have always been happy with moving forward (feeling better).. not moving backward (feeling worse). Barb > > > Of course Steroids can be used anytime as suppressives- not > without > > > cost to the body though.. there are other drugs that can supress > the > > > immune system not so far upstream.... matter of fact alot of abx > are > > > suppressive.. > > > > > My son's immunologist told me that this is not generally true, but > > can happen in exceptional cases. So do you have some studies to the > > contrary that I should show him? > > > > - Kate > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 very valid point. So knowing that as we so well do, it's hard to swallow when a singular focus is touted as the only important focus. Or when people say that "abx" don't work. No, it's the doctors who prescribe them that don't work, and the companies designing them that are more interested in profits than really figuring out how to contain these organisms, rather than keep making them stronger. pennyBarb Peck <egroups1bp@...> wrote: And just to add more complication...Alot of substances (including the enxymes or enzymatic precursors - the antioxidants, the NSAIDS - the 'natural' substances - and the other substances in the numerous non-drug products various people on this list take)have properties that change after they're metabolized - and do not react the same in every person..then they go on to react (or not) with components of our immune system.There's alot more chemical interaction happening than we get into on these lists - So there some truth to probably everything someone says .. but it won't be gospel for everyone..That's why only percentages of people are helped by certain protocols.But the magic bullet sure would be nice to find....I have always been happy with moving forward (feeling better).. not moving backward (feeling worse).Barb> > > Of course Steroids can be used anytime as suppressives- not > without> > > cost to the body though.. there are other drugs that can supress > the> > > immune system not so far upstream.... matter of fact alot of abx > are> > > suppressive..> > >> > My son's immunologist told me that this is not generally true, but > > can happen in exceptional cases. So do you have some studies to the > > contrary that I should show him?> > > > - Kate> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Penny'There's another angle to all this which I typed to kate earlier yet it got lost in cyberspace.When you have strep throat streptococcus pyogenes, unlike the other species of mild streps in the mouth, you take a course of antibiotics to knock down the bugs until your immune system kicks in.It basically keeps creating antyiboidies with every attack.Also This strep pyogenes is never eradicated it's just knocked back waiting for another bout of inflammation for it to start it's new round of infection. We are possably in the same boat with these nasty species of bugs hoping to knock out there home to the point where they only bother us lighteley. > > > > Of course Steroids can be used anytime as suppressives- not > > without > > > > cost to the body though.. there are other drugs that can > supress > > the > > > > immune system not so far upstream.... matter of fact alot of > abx > > are > > > > suppressive.. > > > > > > > My son's immunologist told me that this is not generally true, > but > > > can happen in exceptional cases. So do you have some studies to > the > > > contrary that I should show him? > > > > > > - Kate > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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