Re: Re: Brand vs generic abx

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While the FDA says their is no difference between

brand and generic, most people believe their is and

will spend extra bucks to get the " Good Stuff " . Drug

companys use this belief to sell all kinds of stuff to

consumers. My brother in law pays $158.00 a month for

omega 3 fatty acid, RX from his doctor because its

better than the stuff you buy for 6.00 bucks at

walgreens. Before that he paid $130.00 per month for

non flushing yeast same kind you can buy for $5.00 per

month. His Doctor use him for a extra 2 to 3 thousand

bucks a year, he believes everything the doctor says.

Some people turn their health over to their doctor,

but to me its my life and while I listen to the

Doctors, the final choice belongs to me. jim

--- dumbaussie2000 <dumbaussie2000@...>

wrote:

> Bob absolutely. When I first started to take

> amoxacillin early in the

> disease process I noticed the original smith kline

> beecham brand would

> distribute better kill more bugs and make my neck

> stiffness improve a

> lot quicker than the generics.

> I would actually swear black and blue to the

> pharmacist that I needed

> to only get in the real deal stuff and his 2 or 3

> generic brands

> weren't kicking it as nice.

>

>

> >

> > I am curious whether any of you on this list

> respond differently to

> > brand vs generic abx. My wife has found for

> example that brand name

> > Biaxin is *much* easier on her stomach than at

> least the generic

> brands

> > she has tried. In other words, while a generic

> has to have identical

> > active ingredients, it is not required to have the

> same excipients,

> > fillers, buffers, coatings, artificial coloring,

> etc. And this is an

> > area where they can cut corners to save $$.

> Anyone else noticed this?

> >

> > --Bob

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

There is no difference in the

active ingredients between brand-name and generic. There can be and

usually are differences in fillers, coatings, buffering, excipients and

the like. Sometimes chemically sensitive people will react to the

ingredients in one brand and not another. Most MCS patients favor

brand name because it's statistically less likely in their experience

to be a problem.

The original manufacturer may have paid more attention to absorption

curves and minimization of side effects than some generic manufacturer

who's just trying to clone the active ingredients list. In other cases

it's just random happenstance, or there is no difference. In some

cases I'd not be surprised to find purity / QC issues between brands

too.

You're right about a lot of prescription stuff where over the counter

substitutes are available; big pharma needs margins and BS to make

money. But that's a somewhat different issue.

--Bob

jim davis wrote:

While the FDA says their is no difference between

brand and generic, most people believe their is and

will spend extra bucks to get the "Good Stuff". Drug

companys use this belief to sell all kinds of stuff to

consumers. My brother in law pays $158.00 a month for

omega 3 fatty acid, RX from his doctor because its

better than the stuff you buy for 6.00 bucks at

walgreens. Before that he paid $130.00 per month for

non flushing yeast same kind you can buy for $5.00 per

month. His Doctor use him for a extra 2 to 3 thousand

bucks a year, he believes everything the doctor says.

Some people turn their health over to their doctor,

but to me its my life and while I listen to the

Doctors, the final choice belongs to me. jim

--- dumbaussie2000 <dumbaussie2000 .au>

wrote:

> Bob absolutely. When I first started to take

> amoxacillin early in the

> disease process I noticed the original smith kline

> beecham brand would

> distribute better kill more bugs and make my neck

> stiffness improve a

> lot quicker than the generics.

> I would actually swear black and blue to the

> pharmacist that I needed

> to only get in the real deal stuff and his 2 or 3

> generic brands

> weren't kicking it as nice.

>

>

> >

> > I am curious whether any of you on this list

> respond differently to

> > brand vs generic abx. My wife has found for

> example that brand name

> > Biaxin is *much* easier on her stomach than at

> least the generic

> brands

> > she has tried. In other words, while a generic

> has to have identical

> > active ingredients, it is not required to have the

> same excipients,

> > fillers, buffers, coatings, artificial coloring,

> etc. And this is an

> > area where they can cut corners to save $$.

> Anyone else noticed this?

> >

> > --Bob

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

There is a difference in minocycline although not in the active ingredient. The real stuff is tiny little balls and the generic is powder. The Road Back Foundation believes, and I've read supporting material, that this makes a difference for some of their members who are on their RA protocol. In fact, the original company was convinced to start up production again, to provide the "ball" form for some patients. Again, it depends on the drug and the person taking it and how the drug is assimilated. But when you've got interactions and sensitivities and P450 pathways to deal with, any little change could mean a big difference in reaction. pennyBob Grommes <bob@...> wrote: There is no difference in the active ingredients between brand-name and generic. There can be and usually are differences in fillers, coatings, buffering, excipients and the like. Sometimes chemically sensitive people will react to the ingredients in one brand and not another. Most MCS patients favor brand name because it's statistically less likely in their experience to be a problem.The original manufacturer may have paid more attention to absorption curves and minimization of side effects than some generic manufacturer who's just trying to clone the active ingredients list. In other cases it's just random happenstance, or there is no difference. In some cases I'd not be surprised

to find purity / QC issues between brands too.You're right about a lot of prescription stuff where over the counter substitutes are available; big pharma needs margins and BS to make money. But that's a somewhat different issue.--Bobjim davis wrote: While the FDA says their is no difference betweenbrand and generic, most people believe their is andwill spend extra bucks to get the "Good Stuff". Drugcompanys use this belief to sell all kinds of stuff toconsumers. My brother in law pays $158.00 a month foromega 3 fatty acid, RX from his doctor because itsbetter than the stuff you buy for 6.00 bucks atwalgreens. Before that he paid $130.00 per month fornon flushing yeast same kind you can buy for $5.00 permonth. His Doctor use him for a extra 2 to 3 thousandbucks a

year, he believes everything the doctor says. Some people turn their health over to their doctor,but to me its my life and while I listen to theDoctors, the final choice belongs to me. jim--- dumbaussie2000 <dumbaussie2000 .au>wrote:> Bob absolutely. When I first started to take> amoxacillin early in the > disease process I noticed the original smith kline> beecham brand would > distribute better kill more bugs and make my neck> stiffness improve a > lot quicker than the generics.> I would actually swear black and blue to the> pharmacist that I needed > to only get in the real deal stuff and his 2 or 3> generic brands > weren't kicking it as nice.> > > >> > I am curious whether any of you on this list> respond differently to > > brand vs generic abx. My wife has found for> example that brand name > > Biaxin is *much* easier on her stomach than at> least the generic > brands > > she has tried. In other words, while a generic> has to have identical > > active ingredients, it is not required to have the> same excipients, > > fillers, buffers, coatings, artificial coloring,> etc. And this is an > > area where they can cut corners to save $$. > Anyone else noticed this?> > > > --Bob> >> > >

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