ABX fail in most

[Guest guest]

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I don't think we are so far apart as it would seem. I recall when Dr.

Jeff Sherkey in Toronto tested about 80 fms patients for mycoplasma.

Around 80% of them were infected. He gave them and himself about a

year of antibiotics - based on Nicolson's protocol at that time,

around 1998.

One young woman fully recovered and went back to college. One woman

and Dr. Sherkey went to an HBOT treatment and got a little better. In

the end no one else recovered and Jeff died of brain cancer a few

years later.

So do antibiotics work? The protocol at that time worked for ONE. So

what about the others? Did they need different antibiotics? Did they

need different supplements? (Sherkey was taking ImmunoPro and others.)

Was the Klonopin they were on suppressing their immmune systems to the

point that nothing was going to knock back the infection?

Lots of variables and WAY TO SOON TO SAY THAT ANTIBIOTICS DON'T WORK

AND AREN'T NEEDED. I know, I know, you have said that Rich and Yasko

both encourage antibiotics in some cases. I repeat that the only

antibiotic on Yasko's list is SAMENTO, a very dangerous herb.

Do you BEGIN to see why I keep asking you to support your position?

a CArnes

>

> I've been down that road and then some, Tony. You have no idea.

> Abx failed totally, like they continue to do in most PWCs or end-

stage

> lyme. The terrian or both terrain and prescription antimicrobials are

> going to be the way for these folk, but especially terrain. You can

> knock Yasko, I don't care as I don't know enough yet about her to

know

> if she is the missing CFS treatment messiah(co-messiah with you, my

> bad), but you can't deny what I've accomplished without abx, the jig

> is up with your mistakes in facts. You've been found out

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

And the example you cite is exactly why I tend to agree with Tony

more often than not...ID the enemy- pick the weapon and kill the damn

thing- don't dance with it.

What mycoplasma species??? There's a bazillion of them..

What abx for a year? What was he targeting..

That's like saying : " I test positive for Parvo " .. Yah well- so do

80% of the population of the USA after they're 50 years old... means

nothing..But talk about parvovirus re-emerging from the liver of a

healthy donor to an immunocompromised recipient- and my attention

perks up.

SO I agree with Tony that if you're going to use a broad spectrum abx

combo to kill some pathogen(s) - but you don't have a clue what they

are... then you'd better being using the big guns....

or (now I'll agree with DHall).. don't use them at all- use something

else in the chemical arsenal.

Barb

>

> ,

> I don't think we are so far apart as it would seem. I recall when

Dr.

> Jeff Sherkey in Toronto tested about 80 fms patients for

mycoplasma.

> Around 80% of them were infected. He gave them and himself about a

> year of antibiotics - based on Nicolson's protocol at that time,

> around 1998.

>

> One young woman fully recovered and went back to college. One woman

> and Dr. Sherkey went to an HBOT treatment and got a little better.

In

> the end no one else recovered and Jeff died of brain cancer a few

> years later.

>

> So do antibiotics work? The protocol at that time worked for ONE.

So

> what about the others? Did they need different antibiotics? Did

they

> need different supplements? (Sherkey was taking ImmunoPro and

others.)

> Was the Klonopin they were on suppressing their immmune systems to

the

> point that nothing was going to knock back the infection?

>

> Lots of variables and WAY TO SOON TO SAY THAT ANTIBIOTICS DON'T

WORK

> AND AREN'T NEEDED. I know, I know, you have said that Rich and

Yasko

> both encourage antibiotics in some cases. I repeat that the only

> antibiotic on Yasko's list is SAMENTO, a very dangerous herb.

>

> Do you BEGIN to see why I keep asking you to support your position?

>

> a CArnes

>

>

> >

> > I've been down that road and then some, Tony. You have no idea.

> > Abx failed totally, like they continue to do in most PWCs or end-

> stage

> > lyme. The terrian or both terrain and prescription antimicrobials

are

> > going to be the way for these folk, but especially terrain. You

can

> > knock Yasko, I don't care as I don't know enough yet about her to

> know

> > if she is the missing CFS treatment messiah(co-messiah with you,

my

> > bad), but you can't deny what I've accomplished without abx, the

jig

> > is up with your mistakes in facts. You've been found out

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, a.

<pj7@...> wrote:

> Lots of variables and WAY TO SOON TO SAY THAT ANTIBIOTICS DON'T WORK

> AND AREN'T NEEDED. I know, I know, you have said that Rich and Yasko

> both encourage antibiotics in some cases. I repeat that the only

> antibiotic on Yasko's list is SAMENTO, a very dangerous herb.

>

> Do you BEGIN to see why I keep asking you to support your position?

>

> a CArnes

>

***It'ss fair to say that antibiotic protocols don't work for CFS and

end-stage lyme based on the dramatic evidence support this going back

to the 1980s, that I'm aware, barring the rare exception of recovery

from these alone. Technically, it is more accurate to say they

haven't worked, if this is your point.

***But new developments in abx therapy with skim promise of working is

nothing to wait on and addressing the terrain is proving its worth,

Nicholson clearly agrees with this.

***I haven't looked closely at Yasko's antibiotic protocols, but your

representation that samento is all she has for this is false. You

should talk to the mom's with autistic girls where strep is common and

a major issue, particularly those with high aluminum retention, as I

bet they could fill you in a lot more than I on what those protocols are.

***So far, I've only used some of the gaba/glutamate balancing-brain

calcium influx inflammation reducing supplements Yasko suggests.

These work, but that's all I can attest to from direct experience in

her overall approach.

***