Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Penny Very interesting stuff. I think if you've got a huge pseudonomas load you'll get knocked around by the salt- wether it kills bacteria or reverses some dehydration (that obviously needs adressing in most of these conditions)- is more realistic IMO than it killing bugs.Something that also has a huge impact on food and salting that may be relevant to this, is the slime reduction capabilties of bacteria in a high salt environment.My assumptions on heavy salting is that you won't get any slime formation occuring to cause spoilage in foods or to enable a similar process to impact on your body.NOT NECESSARILY REDUCTIONS IN BACTERIAL NUMBERS- although a rotting organism is possably going to cater for many more billions of bugs than a stable organism.. > > Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:59:21 +1100 > Subject:[salt-n-C] What a month! > > Hi Gang, > I have Lyme 28 years, misdiagnosed as CFS, ME, possible MS, fibromyalgia, etc, 22 years. I have been in a wheelchair at times and on a walking frame for several years. I was extremely intolerant to exercise which caused my muscles to break down. This has put me in hospital twice. On salt & C I have been exercising using dumbbells for 6 months and the muscles are building up instead of breaking down. > Prior to salt & C I was mostly housebound, very depressed and having major panic attacks and severe heart palpitations. I was so desperately ill, that I honestly believe I was dying. I have been on salt & C 28 months and have huge improvements. > My 84 year old dad has been battling cancer of the esophagus for the last 5 years. A couple of weeks ago he was admitted to a hospice for pain management. My husband Vic has been battling prostate cancer, food mal-absorption and other problems for years. March 10th we were woken throughout the night by neighbor's dogs barking. This has been an on-going problem for 4 years. The owners frequently stay away over night, leaving their distressed Jack Russles howling all night in the garage near our bedroom window. I was able to confront the owners (on the phone) & stand my ground in the face of being yelled down by both husband and wife at the same time. Prior to salt & C I always put up with anything because I was not well enough to cope with my own body, let alone confrontation. My main ambition in life had been just to remain vertical for more than a couple of hours! That evening we had a party for my 50th (eeek!) birthday. I have not been well enough to really > enjoy a birthday in decades. The party was awesome and people said they couldn't believe how well I looked and behaved. > On March 13th Vic went into hospital for an operation. My dad passed away that same evening! My brother phoned to say dad had just died at 10pm. I was home alone, and surprisingly, I coped really well. The funeral was only 3 days later. Vic was not allowed to drive after the op, so we had to get a lift, but I was amazed at how well I coped. I even got up to the microphone in front of about 70 people and read a speech about my dad. I included some humorous things and many people laughed. I believe that if I did not know the love of my heavenly father, I would not have coped with the loss of my earthly father so well. > The day after the funeral, with the help of a friend to drive, I did all the food shopping and then reported for duty at our church's " Free Family Fun Day. " (A huge carnival with over 6,000 people) Despite the sadness of my loss, I was able to work my 3 hour shift and then stand in a cue, unaided for some food. Even last year, I had trouble standing in a cue without my walking frame! > Prior to salt & C, I know I would not have coped with any ONE of these events, let alone all these things happening in the same week! I still have some problems, but I am slowly getting my life back. I am convinced that salt & C is killing the Lyme bacteria and reversing all the damage. > Regards, > Rosemary. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Yeah, I read one study that says that Vitamin C also has the ability to reduce the biofilms. So it may not be that it's killing the bugs as much as it's helping the body cope with them better and respond better. Plus I agree that the salt and fluids are probably having a positive effect for thosepwc with hypotension and dehydration issues (many of us). But there are people who are reporting some pretty serious harm being done to their kidneys etc., by taking such high doses of salt, so caution must be observed. This is a highly experimental treatment based on nothing but word of mouth at this point. penny dumbaussie2000 <dumbaussie2000@...> wrote: PennyVery interesting stuff. I think if you've got a huge pseudonomas load you'll get knocked around by the salt- wether it kills bacteria or reverses some dehydration (that obviously needs adressing in most of these conditions)- is more realistic IMO than it killing bugs.Something that also has a huge impact on food and salting that may be relevant to this, is the slime reduction capabilties of bacteria in a high salt environment.My assumptions on heavy salting is that you won't get any slime formation occuring to cause spoilage in foods or to enable a similar process to impact on your body.NOT NECESSARILY REDUCTIONS IN BACTERIAL NUMBERS- although a rotting organism is possably going to cater for many more billions of bugs than a stable organism..> > Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:59:21 +1100> Subject:[salt-n-C] What a month! > > Hi Gang,> I have Lyme 28 years, misdiagnosed as CFS, ME, possible MS, fibromyalgia, etc, 22 years. I have been in a wheelchair at times and on a walking frame for several years. I was extremely intolerant to exercise which caused my muscles to break down. This has put me in hospital twice. On salt & C I have been exercising using dumbbells for 6 months and the muscles are building up instead of breaking down.> Prior to salt & C I was mostly housebound, very depressed and having major panic attacks and severe heart palpitations. I was so desperately ill, that I honestly believe I was dying. I have been on salt & C 28 months and have huge improvements.> My 84 year old dad has been battling cancer of the esophagus for the last 5 years. A couple of weeks ago he was admitted to a hospice for pain management. My husband Vic has been battling prostate cancer, food mal-absorption and other problems for years. March 10th we were woken throughout the night by neighbor's dogs barking. This has been an on-going problem for 4 years. The owners frequently stay away over night, leaving their distressed Jack Russles howling all night in the garage near our bedroom window. I was able to confront the owners (on the phone) & stand my ground in the face of being yelled down by both husband and wife at the same time. Prior to salt & C I always put up with anything because I was not well enough to cope with my own body, let alone confrontation. My main ambition in life had been just to remain vertical for more than a couple of hours! That evening we had a party for my 50th (eeek!) birthday. I have not been well enough to really> enjoy a birthday in decades. The party was awesome and people said they couldn't believe how well I looked and behaved. > On March 13th Vic went into hospital for an operation. My dad passed away that same evening! My brother phoned to say dad had just died at 10pm. I was home alone, and surprisingly, I coped really well. The funeral was only 3 days later. Vic was not allowed to drive after the op, so we had to get a lift, but I was amazed at how well I coped. I even got up to the microphone in front of about 70 people and read a speech about my dad. I included some humorous things and many people laughed. I believe that if I did not know the love of my heavenly father, I would not have coped with the loss of my earthly father so well.> The day after the funeral, with the help of a friend to drive, I did all the food shopping and then reported for duty at our church's "Free Family Fun Day." (A huge carnival with over 6,000 people) Despite the sadness of my loss, I was able to work my 3 hour shift and then stand in a cue, unaided for some food. Even last year, I had trouble standing in a cue without my walking frame!> Prior to salt & C, I know I would not have coped with any ONE of these events, let alone all these things happening in the same week! I still have some problems, but I am slowly getting my life back. I am convinced that salt & C is killing the Lyme bacteria and reversing all the damage.> Regards,> Rosemary.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 I've been following this therapy for a long time, mainly because I think the salt avoidance thing that's been drummed into everyone has been an error in judgement by the medical profession... It's sort of like when they discover that Oh- whoops! margarine isn't as good for you as real butter- and whoops!- skim milk has the most important component stripped out- and whoops!- eggs aren't so bad for you. I think most people are minerally imbalanced- probably due to either a long term chloride inbalance- possiblky caused from too much sodium (notice I didn't say salt- which is sodium chloride). So I think some people could really feel better if they balance the electrolytes- and minerals- but there's real potential for damage if salt is taken incorrectly (without enough water with it). I'm unconvinced that it the salt killing Lyme. Think about it people... the body has a narrow tolerance for the level of salt in every fluid and organ in the body - so how the hell are you going to raise that salt level high enough to kill pathogens? It's just NOT the way the body works. Any Physicians reading this list?- ANy commenst? Barb > > Yeah, I read one study that says that Vitamin C also has the ability to reduce the biofilms. So it may not be that it's killing the bugs as much as it's helping the body cope with them better and respond better. Plus I agree that the salt and fluids are probably having a positive effect for thosepwc with hypotension and dehydration issues (many of us). > > But there are people who are reporting some pretty serious harm being done to their kidneys etc., by taking such high doses of salt, so caution must be observed. This is a highly experimental treatment based on nothing but word of mouth at this point. > > penny > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Barb'I don't believe myself that salt kills pathogens BUT I DO KNOW that it stops the slimy peutrification toxins from doing there thing.You basically select bacterial growth without the greening shenanigans.. > > > > Yeah, I read one study that says that Vitamin C also has the > ability to reduce the biofilms. So it may not be that it's killing > the bugs as much as it's helping the body cope with them better and > respond better. Plus I agree that the salt and fluids are probably > having a positive effect for thosepwc with hypotension and > dehydration issues (many of us). > > > > But there are people who are reporting some pretty serious harm > being done to their kidneys etc., by taking such high doses of salt, > so caution must be observed. This is a highly experimental treatment > based on nothing but word of mouth at this point. > > > > penny > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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