Re: whey protein reduces blood pressure and inhibits ACE

[Guest guest]

This Whey protein and glutathione stuff is sooooo outthere. If you

had a huge success at solving anything with glutathione like is

claimed- YOU'D HAVE THE WHOLE OF MEDICINE THAT'S SPENDING BILLIONS OF

DOLLARS COMING FORWARD WITH MIXTURES WITH THIS KIND OF PRODUCT.

I would think the intelligent one should concentrate on minor

inflammatory problems to target, because if the claims are as

BRILLIANT AS DAVID thrashed them recently we'd have a cure for

diabetes, asthma, and some arthritis is no longer going to be a

problem.Why is it that the opposite is true for these inflammatory

based ilnesses.

Dehydration is possably at the heart of all these diseases, causing

all sorts of problems.

tony

>

> Whey protein reduces blood pressure and inhibits ACE so maybe it's

> working like Benicar. Ha, ha, ha. Wouldn't that be a trip. How's

this

> for a couple of research summaries. All I can say is we are all

> trying to figure out what the heck the elephant is in the dark.

Maybe

> we should call cfs " blind elephant disease. " a Carnes

>

>

> http://www.vitaminlife.com/view_article-exec/article_id/805

>

> Hydrolyzed whey proteins are said to reduce blood pressure according

> to an article written by the Whey Protein Institute. This provides

an

> option for people with hypertension without the side effects that

> drugs produce. A study was conducted at the University of Minnesota

> in June 2004 where people with mild hypertension were asked to take

> whey protein supplements for six weeks and make no other changes in

> their exercise and eating habits. According to the study, " Treatment

> resulted in a significant reduction in blood pressure levels by the

> end of the first week of treatment. This effect was maintained

> throughout the study. "

>

> http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2002/jan2002_abs_03.html

>

> Eur J Clin Invest 2001 Feb;31(2):171-8

>

> Lactokinins: whey protein-derived ACE inhibitory peptides.

>

> Angiotensin-I-converting enzyme (ACE) has been classically

associated

> with the renin-angiotensin system which regulates peripheral blood

> pressure. Peptides derived from the major whey proteins, i.e. alpha-

> lactalbumin (alpha-la) and beta-lactoglobulin (beta-lg) in addition

> to bovine serum albumin (BSA), inhibit ACE. Some of these inhibitory

> peptides, i.e. alpha-lactorphin (alpha-la f(50-53)), beta-lactorphin

> (beta-lg f(102-105)), beta-lactotensin (beta-lg f(146-149) and

> albutensin A (BSA f(208-216)), have other bioactivities. The most

> potent lactokinin reported to date, (beta-lg f(142-148)), has an ACE

> IC50 of 42.6 mumol/l. While they do not have the inhibitory potency

> of synthetic drugs commonly used in the treatment of hypertension,

> these naturally occurring peptides may represent

> nutraceutical/functional food ingredients for the

> prevention/treatment of high blood pressure. Studies with gastric

and

> pancreatic proteinase digests of whey proteins indicate that enzyme

> specificity rather than extent of hydrolysis dictates the ACE

> inhibitory potency of whey hydrolysates.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tony,

Well, it is curious you mention industry. My son is actually

investigating a company in China making a milk protein powder. Right

now you can figure if China is deveoloping products they are big as

that is the country making all the business news now.

I don't think nondenatured whey is the magic cure. It has helped a

lot of patients, but not cured them. I do suspect that pasteurized

milk may be an underlying factor in poor health nowdays. But I'm not

planning to drink unpasteurized milk.

a

>

> This Whey protein and glutathione stuff is sooooo outthere. If you

> had a huge success at solving anything with glutathione like is

> claimed- YOU'D HAVE THE WHOLE OF MEDICINE THAT'S SPENDING BILLIONS

OF

> DOLLARS COMING FORWARD WITH MIXTURES WITH THIS KIND OF PRODUCT.

> I would think the intelligent one should concentrate on minor

> inflammatory problems to target, because if the claims are as

> BRILLIANT AS DAVID thrashed them recently we'd have a cure for

> diabetes, asthma, and some arthritis is no longer going to be a

> problem.Why is it that the opposite is true for these inflammatory

> based ilnesses.

> Dehydration is possably at the heart of all these diseases, causing

> all sorts of problems.

> tony

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Whey protein reduces blood pressure and inhibits ACE so maybe

it's

> > working like Benicar. Ha, ha, ha. Wouldn't that be a trip. How's

> this

> > for a couple of research summaries. All I can say is we are all

> > trying to figure out what the heck the elephant is in the dark.

> Maybe

> > we should call cfs " blind elephant disease. " a Carnes

> >

> >

> > http://www.vitaminlife.com/view_article-exec/article_id/805

> >

> > Hydrolyzed whey proteins are said to reduce blood pressure

according

> > to an article written by the Whey Protein Institute. This

provides

> an

> > option for people with hypertension without the side effects that

> > drugs produce. A study was conducted at the University of

Minnesota

> > in June 2004 where people with mild hypertension were asked to

take

> > whey protein supplements for six weeks and make no other changes

in

> > their exercise and eating habits. According to the

study, " Treatment

> > resulted in a significant reduction in blood pressure levels by

the

> > end of the first week of treatment. This effect was maintained

> > throughout the study. "

> >

> > http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2002/jan2002_abs_03.html

> >

> > Eur J Clin Invest 2001 Feb;31(2):171-8

> >

> > Lactokinins: whey protein-derived ACE inhibitory peptides.

> >

> > Angiotensin-I-converting enzyme (ACE) has been classically

> associated

> > with the renin-angiotensin system which regulates peripheral blood

> > pressure. Peptides derived from the major whey proteins, i.e.

alpha-

> > lactalbumin (alpha-la) and beta-lactoglobulin (beta-lg) in

addition

> > to bovine serum albumin (BSA), inhibit ACE. Some of these

inhibitory

> > peptides, i.e. alpha-lactorphin (alpha-la f(50-53)), beta-

lactorphin

> > (beta-lg f(102-105)), beta-lactotensin (beta-lg f(146-149) and

> > albutensin A (BSA f(208-216)), have other bioactivities. The most

> > potent lactokinin reported to date, (beta-lg f(142-148)), has an

ACE

> > IC50 of 42.6 mumol/l. While they do not have the inhibitory

potency

> > of synthetic drugs commonly used in the treatment of hypertension,

> > these naturally occurring peptides may represent

> > nutraceutical/functional food ingredients for the

> > prevention/treatment of high blood pressure. Studies with gastric

> and

> > pancreatic proteinase digests of whey proteins indicate that

enzyme

> > specificity rather than extent of hydrolysis dictates the ACE

> > inhibitory potency of whey hydrolysates.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I also think whey protein can be beneficial. But its being beaten into us as some kind of a cure is ridiculous to me. Immunepro has been around a long time and lo and behold, the horse is as dead as it ever was. pennypjeanneus <pj7@...> wrote: Hi Tony,Well, it is curious you mention industry. My son is actually investigating a company in China making a milk protein powder. Right now you can figure if China is deveoloping products they are

big as that is the country making all the business news now.I don't think nondenatured whey is the magic cure. It has helped a lot of patients, but not cured them. I do suspect that pasteurized milk may be an underlying factor in poor health nowdays. But I'm not planning to drink unpasteurized milk.a>> This Whey protein and glutathione stuff is sooooo outthere. If you > had a huge success at solving anything with glutathione like is > claimed- YOU'D HAVE THE WHOLE OF MEDICINE THAT'S SPENDING BILLIONS OF > DOLLARS COMING FORWARD WITH MIXTURES WITH THIS KIND OF PRODUCT.> I would think the intelligent one should concentrate on minor > inflammatory problems to target, because if the claims are as > BRILLIANT AS DAVID thrashed them recently we'd have a cure for > diabetes, asthma, and some arthritis is no longer going to be a > problem.Why is it that the opposite is

true for these inflammatory > based ilnesses.> Dehydration is possably at the heart of all these diseases, causing > all sorts of problems.> tony> > > > > > >> > Whey protein reduces blood pressure and inhibits ACE so maybe it's > > working like Benicar. Ha, ha, ha. Wouldn't that be a trip. How's > this > > for a couple of research summaries. All I can say is we are all > > trying to figure out what the heck the elephant is in the dark. > Maybe > > we should call cfs "blind elephant disease." a Carnes> > > > > > http://www.vitaminlife.com/view_article-exec/article_id/805> > > > Hydrolyzed whey proteins are said to reduce blood pressure according> > to an article written by the Whey Protein Institute. This provides > an> > option for people with hypertension without the side effects that> > drugs produce. A study was conducted at the University of Minnesota> > in June 2004 where people with mild hypertension were asked to take> > whey protein supplements for six weeks and make no other changes in> > their exercise and eating habits. According to the study, "Treatment> > resulted in a significant reduction in blood pressure levels by the> > end of the first week of treatment. This effect was maintained> > throughout the study."> > >

> http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2002/jan2002_abs_03.html> > > > Eur J Clin Invest 2001 Feb;31(2):171-8> > > > Lactokinins: whey protein-derived ACE inhibitory peptides.> > > > Angiotensin-I-converting enzyme (ACE) has been classically > associated> > with the renin-angiotensin system which regulates peripheral blood> > pressure. Peptides derived from the major whey proteins, i.e. alpha-> > lactalbumin (alpha-la) and beta-lactoglobulin (beta-lg) in addition> > to bovine serum albumin (BSA), inhibit ACE. Some of these inhibitory> > peptides, i.e. alpha-lactorphin (alpha-la f(50-53)), beta-lactorphin> > (beta-lg f(102-105)), beta-lactotensin (beta-lg f(146-149) and> > albutensin A (BSA f(208-216)), have other bioactivities. The

most> > potent lactokinin reported to date, (beta-lg f(142-148)), has an ACE> > IC50 of 42.6 mumol/l. While they do not have the inhibitory potency> > of synthetic drugs commonly used in the treatment of hypertension,> > these naturally occurring peptides may represent> > nutraceutical/functional food ingredients for the> > prevention/treatment of high blood pressure. Studies with gastric > and> > pancreatic proteinase digests of whey proteins indicate that enzyme> > specificity rather than extent of hydrolysis dictates the ACE> > inhibitory potency of whey hydrolysates.> >>

[Guest guest]

I am just absolutely frustarted and pissed off that they keep going

and going about thIS glutathione topic...... FOR THEM ONLY TO

DISCOOVER RECENTLY - HOW FAR CAN YOUR THRASH THIS DEAD HORSE- IT AINT

GOING TO FIX ANYONE.Methylation block is the new catch cry and if

your full of scar tissue and dehydration you ain't going to methylate

my dear friend.This whole disease needs someone to carry a big stick

and they should biff people on the head whenever they try to pass off

the same crap.

To make matters worse you have another poster very against antibiotic

use, yet it mentions it knows many that have become well on serious

high dose protocols of amoxaciullin and penicillin.This same person

is warning against the dangers of high salt intake(death).Yet the

europeans whom have had a high salt intake for centuries don't seem

to be suffering too badly, just the opposite IMO.What a croc of crap

these ilnesses bring out in people........

tony

-- In infections , Penny Houle

<pennyhoule@...> wrote:

>

> I also think whey protein can be beneficial. But its being beaten

into us as some kind of a cure is ridiculous to me. Immunepro has

been around a long time and lo and behold, the horse is as dead as it

ever was.

>

> penny

>

> pjeanneus <pj7@...> wrote:

> Hi Tony,

> Well, it is curious you mention industry. My son is actually

> investigating a company in China making a milk protein powder.

Right

> now you can figure if China is deveoloping products they are big as

> that is the country making all the business news now.

>

> I don't think nondenatured whey is the magic cure. It has helped a

> lot of patients, but not cured them. I do suspect that pasteurized

> milk may be an underlying factor in poor health nowdays. But I'm

not

> planning to drink unpasteurized milk.

>

> a

>

> >

> > This Whey protein and glutathione stuff is sooooo outthere. If

you

> > had a huge success at solving anything with glutathione like is

> > claimed- YOU'D HAVE THE WHOLE OF MEDICINE THAT'S SPENDING

BILLIONS

> OF

> > DOLLARS COMING FORWARD WITH MIXTURES WITH THIS KIND OF PRODUCT.

> > I would think the intelligent one should concentrate on minor

> > inflammatory problems to target, because if the claims are as

> > BRILLIANT AS DAVID thrashed them recently we'd have a cure for

> > diabetes, asthma, and some arthritis is no longer going to be a

> > problem.Why is it that the opposite is true for these

inflammatory

> > based ilnesses.

> > Dehydration is possably at the heart of all these diseases,

causing

> > all sorts of problems.

> > tony

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Whey protein reduces blood pressure and inhibits ACE so maybe

> it's

> > > working like Benicar. Ha, ha, ha. Wouldn't that be a trip.

How's

> > this

> > > for a couple of research summaries. All I can say is we are all

> > > trying to figure out what the heck the elephant is in the dark.

> > Maybe

> > > we should call cfs " blind elephant disease. " a Carnes

> > >

> > >

> > > http://www.vitaminlife.com/view_article-exec/article_id/805

> > >

> > > Hydrolyzed whey proteins are said to reduce blood pressure

> according

> > > to an article written by the Whey Protein Institute. This

> provides

> > an

> > > option for people with hypertension without the side effects

that

> > > drugs produce. A study was conducted at the University of

> Minnesota

> > > in June 2004 where people with mild hypertension were asked to

> take

> > > whey protein supplements for six weeks and make no other

changes

> in

> > > their exercise and eating habits. According to the

> study, " Treatment

> > > resulted in a significant reduction in blood pressure levels by

> the

> > > end of the first week of treatment. This effect was maintained

> > > throughout the study. "

> > >

> > > http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2002/jan2002_abs_03.html

> > >

> > > Eur J Clin Invest 2001 Feb;31(2):171-8

> > >

> > > Lactokinins: whey protein-derived ACE inhibitory peptides.

> > >

> > > Angiotensin-I-converting enzyme (ACE) has been classically

> > associated

> > > with the renin-angiotensin system which regulates peripheral

blood

> > > pressure. Peptides derived from the major whey proteins, i.e.

> alpha-

> > > lactalbumin (alpha-la) and beta-lactoglobulin (beta-lg) in

> addition

> > > to bovine serum albumin (BSA), inhibit ACE. Some of these

> inhibitory

> > > peptides, i.e. alpha-lactorphin (alpha-la f(50-53)), beta-

> lactorphin

> > > (beta-lg f(102-105)), beta-lactotensin (beta-lg f(146-149) and

> > > albutensin A (BSA f(208-216)), have other bioactivities. The

most

> > > potent lactokinin reported to date, (beta-lg f(142-148)), has

an

> ACE

> > > IC50 of 42.6 mumol/l. While they do not have the inhibitory

> potency

> > > of synthetic drugs commonly used in the treatment of

hypertension,

> > > these naturally occurring peptides may represent

> > > nutraceutical/functional food ingredients for the

> > > prevention/treatment of high blood pressure. Studies with

gastric

> > and

> > > pancreatic proteinase digests of whey proteins indicate that

> enzyme

> > > specificity rather than extent of hydrolysis dictates the ACE

> > > inhibitory potency of whey hydrolysates.

> > >

> >

>