Re: arthritis center of riverside (CA)/ US

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I went a few years back. I thought it was a total rip off. They tested for mycoplasma and I think clamydia pneumoniae. The doc x-rayed my entire body, which doctors have since said was beyond excessive as I didn't have joint pain at the time (now I do, of course). I went to him because he supposedly treats FMS and understands osteomyelitis (according to his website), but since I tested negative for his organisms, he would only prescribe overpriced supplements and charged me a couple of thousand dollars for testing, a lot of which insurance wouldn't pay for. They even sent me supplements I didn't want and charged me for them. Grrrr!!!! And he knew NOTHING about OM. I took a friend with me to the visit. She was appalled. We both felt that he's got a sweet little operation going there, ...for himself. I'm sure some patients who fit his cookie cutter profile may benefit, but if you're a pwc, I'd be wary. I also personally found the doc quite rude,

but his associate who interviews you for the firsting meeting was a sweetheart. pennyamy poet <amydent9@...> wrote: has anone been to arthritis center of riverside recently, and I forget the drs name but the one who treated arthritis wiht antibiotics even 8 years ago.do people there arctually get well or do they crash again afterwhat tests do they

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I never went to Dr. Franco, but and Leslee Dudley liked him. I

met him at the Chicago Conference for the MP. He seemed very kind and

we talked for awhile. (He is from Peru, and my mom lived in Peru 10

years, so we may have had a connection - I don't know.)I was never

his patient, and i have no idea what he would do with Lyme disease

and other infections. He is on the rheumatic.org group for using

antibiotics for arthritis.

I hope this is helpful. I don't know more.

a Carnes

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> I went a few years back. I thought it was a total rip off. They

tested for mycoplasma and I think clamydia pneumoniae. The doc x-

rayed my entire body, which doctors have since said was beyond

excessive as I didn't have joint pain at the time (now I do, of

course). I went to him because he supposedly treats FMS and

understands osteomyelitis (according to his website), but since I

tested negative for his organisms, he would only prescribe overpriced

supplements and charged me a couple of thousand dollars for testing,

a lot of which insurance wouldn't pay for. They even sent me

supplements I didn't want and charged me for them. Grrrr!!!! And he

knew NOTHING about OM. I took a friend with me to the visit. She was

appalled. We both felt that he's got a sweet little operation going

there, ...for himself. I'm sure some patients who fit his cookie

cutter profile may benefit, but if you're a pwc, I'd be wary. I also

personally found the doc quite rude, but his associate who

> interviews you for the firsting meeting was a sweetheart.

>

> penny

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> amy poet <amydent9@...> wrote:

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> has anone been to arthritis center of riverside recently, and I

forget the

> drs name but the one who treated arthritis wiht antibiotics even 8

years

> ago.

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> do people there arctually get well or do they crash again after

>

> what tests do they use?

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> amy

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The guy shopuld be on shonky watch his only interest is in lining his

pockets. I think someone seeing hundreds of patients and organising

hundreds if not thousands of tests every week without a decent

strategy or outcome for his patient, is a freakin CROOK.

The guy just has this come in spinner/sucker patient, another half

million dollar take for the week as his motive...a you should

take off your rose coloured glasses and really get hooked in to see

where these types of arseholes stand with what is going on out there

in autoimmunland. You just gave us a glowing report on the guys

personality.ARGHHH.

tony

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> > has anone been to arthritis center of riverside recently, and I

> forget the

> > drs name but the one who treated arthritis wiht antibiotics even

8

> years

> > ago.

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> > do people there arctually get well or do they crash again after

> >

> > what tests do they use?

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> > amy

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Tony, you obviously know nothing of Leslee Dudley. If she thought he

was okay it was not about how nice he was.

a Carnes

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> a

> The guy shopuld be on shonky watch his only interest is in lining

his

> pockets. I think someone seeing hundreds of patients and organising

> hundreds if not thousands of tests every week without a decent

> strategy or outcome for his patient, is a freakin CROOK.

> The guy just has this come in spinner/sucker patient, another half

> million dollar take for the week as his motive...a you should

> take off your rose coloured glasses and really get hooked in to see

> where these types of arseholes stand with what is going on out

there

> in autoimmunland. You just gave us a glowing report on the guys

> personality.ARGHHH.

> tony

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> > > has anone been to arthritis center of riverside recently, and I

> > forget the

> > > drs name but the one who treated arthritis wiht antibiotics

even

> 8

> > years

> > > ago.

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> > > do people there arctually get well or do they crash again after

> > >

> > > what tests do they use?

> > >

> > > amy

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That's probably because he tests for mycoplasma. And Leslee's big on Mycoplasma. But he doesn't acknowledge other organisms. He didn't listen to me at all. I kept telling him I didn't have pain, but he x-rayed me for arthritis anyway and prescribed high priced but useless Fibromyalgia supplements for the "pain" and told me I needed to get better sleep to deal with my "fatigue". He was very condescending. My own doctor here does a much better job and he doesn't charge me $2,000 and he actually suggests useful supplements to deal with what the organisms do to my body. You can ask my friend if you're not buying it from me. She was appalled, and she's been to more docs than she can probably remember. penny pjeanneus <pj7@...> wrote: Tony, you obviously know nothing of Leslee Dudley. If she thought he was okay it was not about how nice he was.a Carnes>> a > The guy shopuld be on shonky watch his only interest is in lining his > pockets. I think someone seeing hundreds of patients and organising > hundreds if not thousands of tests every week without a decent > strategy or outcome for his patient, is a freakin CROOK.> The guy just has this come in spinner/sucker patient, another half > million dollar take for the week as his motive...a you should > take off your rose coloured glasses and really get

hooked in to see > where these types of arseholes stand with what is going on out there > in autoimmunland. You just gave us a glowing report on the guys > personality.ARGHHH.> tony> > > > > > > > > > > > > has anone been to arthritis center of riverside recently, and I > > forget the > > > drs name but the one who treated arthritis wiht antibiotics even > 8 > > years > > > ago.> > > > > > do people there arctually get well or do they

crash again after> > > > > > what tests do they use?> > > > > > amy> > > > > > __________________________________________________________> > > Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. > > > http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?> > icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglinemarch07> > >> >>

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a, Just another thought.. do you acknowledge that pain damages

your body? I sort of know a few people that have had the neck pain,

lower back pain, that went on to have metal bracing placed on there

spines due to long term damages..spondilitis, bone fusions at a

young age...Why would anyone want to promote some unseen untested

theory of feeling worse to get better.All I've met on forums is

feeling worse then getting surgery..So please let's focus in on the

good science on offer and avoid supporting people that write good

books but have no-one swinging from the ceiling screaming there cured.

This group of ilnesses needs to be reversed aggresively early in the

disease process as the best option for success anything else IMO is

criminal.This(criminal) also applies to visiting the so called

experts, who have all just recently discovered there patients have

some serious shit heart disease develop.WHAT A BUNCH OF FUKWITS THIS

GROUP HAVE TURNED OUT TO BE!!!!!!!!!!!To me the best science and

understanding of these conditions is being discussed this week ...how

a wave of ilness switches on, and surprisingly occasionally switches

off, is this week's topic..

tony

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> > > > has anone been to arthritis center of riverside recently, and

I

> > > forget the

> > > > drs name but the one who treated arthritis wiht antibiotics

> even

> > 8

> > > years

> > > > ago.

> > > >

> > > > do people there arctually get well or do they crash again

after

> > > >

> > > > what tests do they use?

> > > >

> > > > amy

> > > >

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a another thing to consider, which effects most, is how hormones

also play with those switches.

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> > > > has anone been to arthritis center of riverside recently, and

I

> > > forget the

> > > > drs name but the one who treated arthritis wiht antibiotics

> even

> > 8

> > > years

> > > > ago.

> > > >

> > > > do people there arctually get well or do they crash again

after

> > > >

> > > > what tests do they use?

> > > >

> > > > amy

> > > >

> > > > __________________________________________________________

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