Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 I would complain to Kid Zone headquarters and the management! Dawn Mom to angel , 2 My husband just called. He took our son, Reece to play at the Kid Zone in the mall since it is raining. So "head of Security" approaches my husband and says that our son has to take his shoes off....no shoes allowed. My husband explains that our son wears orthodics and has to wear shoes so he doesn't slip on the carpet. He also explains that he can't walk without his orthodics. Security guy does not care and says that he has to take his shoes off if he wants to play there. Honestly, don't they have better things to do like patrol for shoplifters. But instead they want to crack down on Kid Zone????....please. One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Isn't that a form of discrimination! We are! It's so ridiculous! From: Dgaita1013aol <Dgaita1013aol>Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Kid Zone....my ventTo: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:48 AM I would complain to Kid Zone headquarters and the management! Dawn Mom to angel , 2 In a message dated 12/22/2008 1:44:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyrhomeyahoo (DOT) com writes: My husband just called. He took our son, Reece to play at the Kid Zone in the mall since it is raining. So "head of Security" approaches my husband and says that our son has to take his shoes off....no shoes allowed. My husband explains that our son wears orthodics and has to wear shoes so he doesn't slip on the carpet. He also explains that he can't walk without his orthodics. Security guy does not care and says that he has to take his shoes off if he wants to play there. Honestly, don't they have better things to do like patrol for shoplifters. But instead they want to crack down on Kid Zone????.... please. One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Security guard is lucky he had dad and not mom I am guessing! YES and that's what I mean. I totally understand if the guy didn't realize the situation but after my husband explained he should have been fine with it. From: Dgaita1013aol (DOT) com <Dgaita1013aol (DOT) com>Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Kid Zone....my ventTo: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.comDate: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:48 AM I would complain to Kid Zone headquarters and the management! Dawn Mom to angel , 2 In a message dated 12/22/2008 1:44:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyrhomeyahoo (DOT) com writes: My husband just called. He took our son, Reece to play at the Kid Zone in the mall since it is raining. So "head of Security" approaches my husband and says that our son has to take his shoes off....no shoes allowed. My husband explains that our son wears orthodics and has to wear shoes so he doesn't slip on the carpet. He also explains that he can't walk without his orthodics. Security guy does not care and says that he has to take his shoes off if he wants to play there. Honestly, don't they have better things to do like patrol for shoplifters. But instead they want to crack down on Kid Zone????.... please. One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 We are! It's so ridiculous! Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Kid Zone....my ventTo: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:48 AM I would complain to Kid Zone headquarters and the management! Dawn Mom to angel , 2 In a message dated 12/22/2008 1:44:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyrhomeyahoo (DOT) com writes: My husband just called. He took our son, Reece to play at the Kid Zone in the mall since it is raining. So "head of Security" approaches my husband and says that our son has to take his shoes off....no shoes allowed. My husband explains that our son wears orthodics and has to wear shoes so he doesn't slip on the carpet. He also explains that he can't walk without his orthodics. Security guy does not care and says that he has to take his shoes off if he wants to play there. Honestly, don't they have better things to do like patrol for shoplifters. But instead they want to crack down on Kid Zone????.... please. One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 YES and that's what I mean. I totally understand if the guy didn't realize the situation but after my husband explained he should have been fine with it. From: Dgaita1013aol (DOT) com <Dgaita1013aol (DOT) com>Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Kid Zone....my ventTo: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.comDate: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:48 AM I would complain to Kid Zone headquarters and the management! Dawn Mom to angel , 2 In a message dated 12/22/2008 1:44:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyrhomeyahoo (DOT) com writes: My husband just called. He took our son, Reece to play at the Kid Zone in the mall since it is raining. So "head of Security" approaches my husband and says that our son has to take his shoes off....no shoes allowed. My husband explains that our son wears orthodics and has to wear shoes so he doesn't slip on the carpet. He also explains that he can't walk without his orthodics. Security guy does not care and says that he has to take his shoes off if he wants to play there. Honestly, don't they have better things to do like patrol for shoplifters. But instead they want to crack down on Kid Zone????.... please. One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 I'm sorry you had to deal with such foolishness! I have had a few run in's over the years too with regards to being able to have equal access to things. The ADA is your friend and often just stating that your child has the right to equal access to anything public under while using the needed supports, and in this case it means the orthonics, will very often get the person to back down. If not, tell them you want a supervisor and you will not move until one talks to you, then don't move. :-) Just keep enjoying your activities. Carol in ILMom to , 8 DS My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/ http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusicFrom: "Dgaita1013@..." To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:31:57 PMSubject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Kid Zone....my vent Security guard is lucky he had dad and not mom I am guessing! In a message dated 12/22/2008 2:10:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyrhomeyahoo (DOT) com writes: YES and that's what I mean. I totally understand if the guy didn't realize the situation but after my husband explained he should have been fine with it. From: Dgaita1013aol (DOT) com <Dgaita1013aol (DOT) com>Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Kid Zone....my ventTo: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.comDate: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:48 AM I would complain to Kid Zone headquarters and the management! Dawn Mom to angel , 2 In a message dated 12/22/2008 1:44:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyrhomeyahoo (DOT) com writes: My husband just called. He took our son, Reece to play at the Kid Zone in the mall since it is raining. So "head of Security" approaches my husband and says that our son has to take his shoes off....no shoes allowed. My husband explains that our son wears orthodics and has to wear shoes so he doesn't slip on the carpet. He also explains that he can't walk without his orthodics. Security guy does not care and says that he has to take his shoes off if he wants to play there. Honestly, don't they have better things to do like patrol for shoplifters. But instead they want to crack down on Kid Zone????.... please. One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 It doesn't seem fair to me either. Could the orthotics be placed inside his socks? I'm not sure what kind he wears. Shirley Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Kid Zone....my vent I would complain to Kid Zone headquarters and the management! Dawn Mom to angel , 2 In a message dated 12/22/2008 1:44:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyrhome writes: My husband just called. He took our son, Reece to play at the Kid Zone in the mall since it is raining. So "head of Security" approaches my husband and says that our son has to take his shoes off....no shoes allowed. My husband explains that our son wears orthodics and has to wear shoes so he doesn't slip on the carpet. He also explains that he can't walk without his orthodics. Security guy does not care and says that he has to take his shoes off if he wants to play there. Honestly, don't they have better things to do like patrol for shoplifters. But instead they want to crack down on Kid Zone????....please. One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release Date: 12/18/2008 8:06 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) don't be afraid to use it! If this is a public place your child has every right to use it with all supports needed. Would they make someone leave their crutches or wheelchair outside the area? ette --------- Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Kid Zone....my ventTo: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.comDate: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:48 AM I would complain to Kid Zone headquarters and the management! Dawn Mom to angel , 2 In a message dated 12/22/2008 1:44:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyrhomeyahoo (DOT) com writes: My husband just called. He took our son, Reece to play at the Kid Zone in the mall since it is raining. So "head of Security" approaches my husband and says that our son has to take his shoes off....no shoes allowed. My husband explains that our son wears orthodics and has to wear shoes so he doesn't slip on the carpet. He also explains that he can't walk without his orthodics. Security guy does not care and says that he has to take his shoes off if he wants to play there. Honestly, don't they have better things to do like patrol for shoplifters. But instead they want to crack down on Kid Zone????.... please. One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 you should contact the management of the mall and let them know what happened. Pretty sure there is some disability law that says if he needs his shoes/socks that they can't force him to take them off. (I do realize it does not specifically say those words, but you get the point.) > > It doesn't seem fair to me either. > > Could the orthotics be placed inside his socks? I'm not sure what kind he wears. > > Shirley > > > Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Kid Zone....my vent > > > > I would complain to Kid Zone headquarters and the management! > > Dawn > Mom to angel , 2 > > In a message dated 12/22/2008 1:44:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyrhome@... writes: > My husband just called. He took our son, Reece to play at the Kid Zone in the mall since it is raining. So " head of Security " approaches my husband and says that our son has to take his shoes off....no shoes allowed. My husband explains that our son wears orthodics and has to wear shoes so he doesn't slip on the carpet. He also explains that he can't walk without his orthodics. Security guy does not care and says that he has to take his shoes off if he wants to play there. Honestly, don't they have better things to do like patrol for shoplifters. But instead they want to crack down on Kid Zone????....please. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The NEW AOL.com. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release Date: 12/18/2008 8:06 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Before making too big of a " nasty " fuss I'd recommend trying a soft approach. I'd rather have accomodations made willingly through education than forcefully leaving bitter feelings towards the very ones for whom we are trying to promote greater understanding. I think the reason for the no shoes is to keep dirt and germs under control and to a minimum. At a Children's Museum in Houston they provided hospital type paper shoes to go over the street shoes. Perhaps you could suggest that there be such a solution in this case. --northern Wisconsin > > > > It doesn't seem fair to me either. > > > > Could the orthotics be placed inside his socks? I'm not sure what kind he wears. > > > > Shirley > > > > > > Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Kid Zone....my vent > > > > > > > > I would complain to Kid Zone headquarters and the management! > > > > Dawn > > Mom to angel , 2 > > > > In a message dated 12/22/2008 1:44:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyrhome@ > writes: > > My husband just called. He took our son, Reece to play at the Kid Zone in the mall > since it is raining. So " head of Security " approaches my husband and says that our son > has to take his shoes off....no shoes allowed. My husband explains that our son wears > orthodics and has to wear shoes so he doesn't slip on the carpet. He also explains that he > can't walk without his orthodics. Security guy does not care and says that he has to take > his shoes off if he wants to play there. Honestly, don't they have better things to do like > patrol for shoplifters. But instead they want to crack down on Kid Zone????....please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ----------- > > One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The > NEW AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ----------- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release Date: 12/18/2008 8:06 > PM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 My husband called and talked to someone in management at the mall who was very apologetic and concerned. They don't allow this type of behavior from employees and said that they would address it. In the meantime my husband called the person in charge of security who did not understand the issue. He was pretty much sticking to the policy....no shoes allowed and no exceptions for safety reasons for all of the children. So my husband very calmly said "so let me understand this, my son is not allowed to play in that area because he has a disability that keeps him from walking without his orthodics." Security guy says he'll call my husband back. Phone rings 5 minutes later. Security guy must have talked to someone in public relations... ."we believe that your son should be able to wear his orthodics/shoes in the play area and that doing so would not pose a safety issue for the other> children." Ya think?> > Judy Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Kid Zone....my ventTo: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 7:53 AM Before making too big of a "nasty" fuss I'd recommend trying a soft approach. I'd rather have accomodations made willingly through education than forcefully leaving bitter feelings towards the very ones for whom we are trying to promote greater understanding.I think the reason for the no shoes is to keep dirt and germs under control and to a minimum. At a Children's Museum in Houston they provided hospital type paper shoes to go over the street shoes. Perhaps you could suggest that there be such a solution in this case.--northern Wisconsin> >> > It doesn't seem fair to me either.> > > > Could the orthotics be placed inside his socks? I'm not sure what kind he wears.> > > > Shirley> > > > > > Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Kid Zone....my vent> > > > > > > > I would complain to Kid Zone headquarters and the management!> > > > Dawn > > Mom to angel , 2> > > > In a message dated 12/22/2008 1:44:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyrhome@ > writes:> > My husband just called. He took our son, Reece to play at the Kid Zone in the mall > since it is raining. So "head of Security" approaches my husband and says that our son > has to take his shoes off....no shoes allowed. My husband explains that our son wears > orthodics and has to wear shoes so he doesn't slip on the carpet. He also explains that he > can't walk without his orthodics. Security guy does not care and says that he has to take > his shoes off if he wants to play there. Honestly, don't they have better things to do like > patrol for shoplifters. But instead they want to crack down on Kid Zone????.... please.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---> -----------> > One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The > NEW AOL.com.> > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---> -----------> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release Date: 12/18/2008 8:06 > PM> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Good for you! Sorry that you had to go through all of that aggravation, but glad that it turned out well. From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Judy Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 11:25 AM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Kid Zone....my vent My husband called and talked to someone in management at the mall who was very apologetic and concerned. They don't allow this type of behavior from employees and said that they would address it. In the meantime my husband called the person in charge of security who did not understand the issue. He was pretty much sticking to the policy....no shoes allowed and no exceptions for safety reasons for all of the children. So my husband very calmly said " so let me understand this, my son is not allowed to play in that area because he has a disability that keeps him from walking without his orthodics. " Security guy says he'll call my husband back. Phone rings 5 minutes later. Security guy must have talked to someone in public relations... . " we believe that your son should be able to wear his orthodics/shoes in the play area and that doing so would not pose a safety issue for the other > children. " Ya think? > > Judy Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Kid Zone....my vent To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 7:53 AM Before making too big of a " nasty " fuss I'd recommend trying a soft approach. I'd rather have accomodations made willingly through education than forcefully leaving bitter feelings towards the very ones for whom we are trying to promote greater understanding. I think the reason for the no shoes is to keep dirt and germs under control and to a minimum. At a Children's Museum in Houston they provided hospital type paper shoes to go over the street shoes. Perhaps you could suggest that there be such a solution in this case. --northern Wisconsin > > > > It doesn't seem fair to me either. > > > > Could the orthotics be placed inside his socks? I'm not sure what kind he wears. > > > > Shirley > > > > > > Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Kid Zone....my vent > > > > > > > > I would complain to Kid Zone headquarters and the management! > > > > Dawn > > Mom to angel , 2 > > > > In a message dated 12/22/2008 1:44:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyrhome@ > writes: > > My husband just called. He took our son, Reece to play at the Kid Zone in the mall > since it is raining. So " head of Security " approaches my husband and says that our son > has to take his shoes off....no shoes allowed. My husband explains that our son wears > orthodics and has to wear shoes so he doesn't slip on the carpet. He also explains that he > can't walk without his orthodics. Security guy does not care and says that he has to take > his shoes off if he wants to play there. Honestly, don't they have better things to do like > patrol for shoplifters. But instead they want to crack down on Kid Zone????.... please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - -- > ----------- > > One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. The > NEW AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - -- > ----------- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release Date: 12/18/2008 8:06 > PM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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