Everyone read this - it is my mass reply!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Marie,

I just talked to my dear brilliant son re the weird good results of coffee. He also mentioned immediately that caffeine affects circulation.

I am thinking that I may still have babesia which has not been adequately treated. This would impair blood circulation and lower oxygen levels.

Then I may have MRSA going on which could have entered my brain via the nick I experienced a year ago when my vocal cords were scoped.

But I notice Tony and Penny have not given us a nice long list of effective antibiotics for MRSA. I know I have the coag negative staph, as does my husband. How to treat it we have no clue even after flying across the country to see Shoemaker and swabbing our noses for weeks with Septrim.

Tony, what is wrong with the MP choice of antibiotics? Hey, they get to Septrim. The only thing they leave out is the penicillins. Big deal. Okay, I know you think it is. Maybe the head honcho is obese because he houses adenovirus 36. Maybe he needs to add Valtrex/Valcyte to the protocol.

Penny, you said I didn't stick with diflucan/penicillin long enough. Who knows. I never would have used either one except for the bizarro headache. I was doing great prior to the throat exam/headache. So if the diflucan/pennicillin did NOTHING for the headache why would I continue that?

Right now the Valtrex, Zithromax and coffee are working. Does that mean my problem really is babesia which the Zithro is reducing and the coffee is improving circulation? If I get a blood test for babs will it be worth the money if the Zithromax has temporarily reduced the level of infection???? Maybe the infected RBCs won't show up on dark field microscopy with all that Zithromax floating around.

Tony, my book I wrote is not science. It is personal and spiritual. Perhaps I should go to a faith healer. How about the guy who gives you tapes of him talking nonsense and then prays with you over the phone - for a fee, of course. Yeah, that's the ticket. You know the atheists don't like me, and the Christians don't either. I am not winning.

Best to all,

a Carnes

Also opens blood vessels which is good for asthma and migraines. Mariecarmelann <carmelanncharter (DOT) net> wrote:Caffeine thins the blood which is good for migrainesFaith, Hope, and Love,Katrina

[Guest guest]

I don't know, a, I feel like crying 'cuz I can't seem to get anything across to you. How can you think you were doing so great when all it took was one little nick in your throat to send you into a complete tail spin? You think you suddenly acquired some new bug that kicked your butt? Heck, you were already dx'd with coag neg staph. Do you seriously think it just goes away because you take a few weeks of abx? If it were that easy, we wouldn't be sick, would we? And how or why you can't see why the same 3 abx (MP) won't work for every possible person's bug combinations is...well...just completely beyond me (and infectious medicine in general). That's all we've been talking about for years. These bugs don't just lay down when you hit 'em with a drug or two. It takes intensive drug therapy, it takes the RIGHT ones for YOUR bugs which are

probably different mutations from mine, and it takes a massive effort to penetrate the various bio-films and defense mechanisms they've developed to continue living happily in your body, pumping out their nasty little toxins and slowly wearing you out until you have no fight left. penny a Carnes <pj7@...> wrote: Marie, I just talked to my dear brilliant son re the weird good results of coffee. He also mentioned immediately that caffeine affects circulation. I am thinking that I may still have babesia which has not been adequately treated. This would impair blood circulation and lower oxygen levels. Then I may have MRSA going on which could have entered my brain via the nick I experienced a year ago when my vocal cords were scoped. But I notice Tony and Penny have not given us a nice long list of effective antibiotics for MRSA. I know I have the coag negative staph, as does my husband. How to treat it we have no clue even after flying across the country to see Shoemaker and swabbing our noses for weeks with Septrim. Tony, what is wrong with the MP choice of antibiotics? Hey, they get to Septrim. The only thing they leave out is the penicillins. Big deal. Okay, I know you think it is. Maybe the head honcho is obese because he houses adenovirus 36. Maybe he needs to add Valtrex/Valcyte to the protocol. Penny,

you said I didn't stick with diflucan/penicillin long enough. Who knows. I never would have used either one except for the bizarro headache. I was doing great prior to the throat exam/headache. So if the diflucan/pennicillin did NOTHING for the headache why would I continue that? Right now the Valtrex, Zithromax and coffee are working. Does that mean my problem really is babesia which the Zithro is reducing and the coffee is improving circulation? If I get a blood test for babs will it be worth the money if the Zithromax has temporarily reduced the level of infection???? Maybe the infected RBCs won't show up on dark field microscopy with all that Zithromax floating around. Tony, my book I wrote is not science. It is personal and spiritual. Perhaps I should go to a faith healer. How about the guy who gives you tapes of him talking nonsense and then prays with you over the phone - for a fee, of course. Yeah, that's the ticket. You know the atheists don't like me, and the Christians don't either. I am not winning. Best to all, a Carnes Also opens blood vessels which is

good for asthma and migraines. Mariecarmelann <carmelanncharter (DOT) net> wrote:Caffeine thins the blood which is good for migrainesFaith, Hope, and Love,Katrina

[Guest guest]

Penny, you don't feel like crying as much as I did. My problem is

that the pieces don't fit. I was doing better for a year on NOTHING

except Recuperation. I've never said I was cured of any of my

infections. I am sure that the headache of one year duration NO

MATTER WHAT I TAKE is related to some infection or several. It just

didn't get better AT ALL on diflucan and penicillin. I can't see

continuing that combo several more months when NOTHING improved.

I don't know what the coffee is doing. Is my " normal " MRI in fact not

normal? How the heck do I know? Maybe the headache specialist I see

in two weeks will know.

Yes, I goofed by saying caffeine expands blood vessels, it constricts

them. BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE EITHER, DOES IT? Why does

caffeine help some migraines and make others worse? Why would

constricting blood vessels in my case help anything?

Y'all stop scolding me. I have no clue, and I'm not saying I do. I'm

saying my one year long constant headache is bizarre.

a Carnes - who feels pretty good today - day 5 I think - so I

could care less if I still have babesia, borrelia, MRSA and

mycoplasma - just for today.

>

> I don't know, a, I feel like crying 'cuz I can't seem to get

anything across to you.

>

> How can you think you were doing so great when all it took was

one little nick in your throat to send you into a complete tail spin?

You think you suddenly acquired some new bug that kicked your butt?

Heck, you were already dx'd with coag neg staph. Do you seriously

think it just goes away because you take a few weeks of abx? If it

were that easy, we wouldn't be sick, would we?

>

> And how or why you can't see why the same 3 abx (MP) won't work

for every possible person's bug combinations is...well...just

completely beyond me (and infectious medicine in general). That's all

we've been talking about for years. These bugs don't just lay down

when you hit 'em with a drug or two. It takes intensive drug therapy,

it takes the RIGHT ones for YOUR bugs which are probably different

mutations from mine, and it takes a massive effort to penetrate the

various bio-films and defense mechanisms they've developed to

continue living happily in your body, pumping out their nasty little

toxins and slowly wearing you out until you have no fight left.

>

> penny

>

>

>

>

>

> a Carnes <pj7@...> wrote:

> Marie,

> I just talked to my dear brilliant son re the weird good results

of coffee. He also mentioned immediately that caffeine affects

circulation.

>

> I am thinking that I may still have babesia which has not been

adequately treated. This would impair blood circulation and lower

oxygen levels.

>

> Then I may have MRSA going on which could have entered my brain

via the nick I experienced a year ago when my vocal cords were

scoped.

>

> But I notice Tony and Penny have not given us a nice long list of

effective antibiotics for MRSA. I know I have the coag negative

staph, as does my husband. How to treat it we have no clue even after

flying across the country to see Shoemaker and swabbing our noses for

weeks with Septrim.

>

> Tony, what is wrong with the MP choice of antibiotics? Hey, they

get to Septrim. The only thing they leave out is the penicillins. Big

deal. Okay, I know you think it is. Maybe the head honcho is obese

because he houses adenovirus 36. Maybe he needs to add

Valtrex/Valcyte to the protocol.

>

> Penny, you said I didn't stick with diflucan/penicillin long

enough. Who knows. I never would have used either one except for the

bizarro headache. I was doing great prior to the throat

exam/headache. So if the diflucan/pennicillin did NOTHING for the

headache why would I continue that?

>

> Right now the Valtrex, Zithromax and coffee are working. Does

that mean my problem really is babesia which the Zithro is reducing

and the coffee is improving circulation? If I get a blood test for

babs will it be worth the money if the Zithromax has temporarily

reduced the level of infection???? Maybe the infected RBCs won't show

up on dark field microscopy with all that Zithromax floating around.

>

> Tony, my book I wrote is not science. It is personal and

spiritual. Perhaps I should go to a faith healer. How about the guy

who gives you tapes of him talking nonsense and then prays with you

over the phone - for a fee, of course. Yeah, that's the ticket. You

know the atheists don't like me, and the Christians don't either. I

am not winning.

>

> Best to all,

> a Carnes

>

>

>

> Also opens blood vessels which is good for asthma and migraines.

> Marie

>

> carmelann <carmelann@...> wrote:

> Caffeine thins the blood which is good for migraines

>

> Faith, Hope, and Love,

> Katrina

>

[Guest guest]

a

I cited two papers for you describing caffeine and hypotension. You

re-posted one, but it was the other one that offered a possible

mechanism for the pain relief that caffeine may give for a low

pressure headache:

" It seems that not the low CSF pressure itself is the cause for the

headache but the unphysiological, increased vasodilatation of

intracranial and epidural veins. "

http://tinyurl.com/22dn6e

That is why I referred to the vasoconstricting effects of caffeine.

Have you tested the influence of caffeine by " pulsing " it? One day

on, the other off.

I'm thinking that the vasculature may build tolerance to the effects

of caffiene, but I'm not sure. If it does you may return to

previous pain levels even with the caffiene, and experience an

exacerbation of the pain when you stop the caffiene.

Matt

>

> Yes, I goofed by saying caffeine expands blood vessels, it

constricts

> them. BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE EITHER, DOES IT? Why does

> caffeine help some migraines and make others worse? Why would

> constricting blood vessels in my case help anything?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ouch. Thanks, Matt. I knew I read something that indicated the

caffeine did something. I think that the effect of the caffeine

starts to wear off even in about 12 hours. But then when I lie down

my head feels better anyway.

a

>

> a

>

> I cited two papers for you describing caffeine and hypotension.

You

> re-posted one, but it was the other one that offered a possible

> mechanism for the pain relief that caffeine may give for a low

> pressure headache:

>

> " It seems that not the low CSF pressure itself is the cause for the

> headache but the unphysiological, increased vasodilatation of

> intracranial and epidural veins. "

>

> http://tinyurl.com/22dn6e

>

> That is why I referred to the vasoconstricting effects of caffeine.

>

> Have you tested the influence of caffeine by " pulsing " it? One day

> on, the other off.

>

> I'm thinking that the vasculature may build tolerance to the

effects

> of caffiene, but I'm not sure. If it does you may return to

> previous pain levels even with the caffiene, and experience an

> exacerbation of the pain when you stop the caffiene.

>

> Matt

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Yes, I goofed by saying caffeine expands blood vessels, it

> constricts

> > them. BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE EITHER, DOES IT? Why does

> > caffeine help some migraines and make others worse? Why would

> > constricting blood vessels in my case help anything?

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

a, I wonder if your trigeminal nerve was somehow injured during

the exam. Did the headaches start immediately or some time

afterwards? Do the symptoms fit into any of the major categories of

headache (migraine, cluster, tension...)? Tried Imitrex or some other

migraine medication? Stopped Recup for a few days?

[Guest guest]

I got sick with something 12 hours after the exam. It was like a mild

flu. All the symptoms started at that time including a few days of

thrush which cleared up, but the head pressure did not, nor did the

vertigo or nystagmus and vestibular nerve damage.

I also have rather severe hypoglycemia. It's possible the coffee is

increasing adrenaline which improves the low blood sugar and decreases

food cravings.

a

>

> a, I wonder if your trigeminal nerve was somehow injured during

> the exam. Did the headaches start immediately or some time

> afterwards? Do the symptoms fit into any of the major categories

of

> headache (migraine, cluster, tension...)? Tried Imitrex or some

other

> migraine medication? Stopped Recup for a few days?

>

[Guest guest]

My migraines are only helped through vasoconstrictors (although vasoconstrictors like Immitrex & pseudophedrine also make my heart feel very iffy). But narcotics don't work at all for me. Since vasoconstriction helps, that indicates that increased blood volume and the resulting pressure on nerves is one major cause of migraines. Other things may also increase pressure on those nerves (like elevated or fluctuating cerebrospinal fluid). I read recently that a very large percentage of people who have surgical forehead lifts suddenly stop having migraines. Theory is that perhaps it desensitizes the nerves somehow, but they don't really know. The other big breakthrough in migraines was the recent study that showed that repairing a small hole between the chambers of the heart (to prevent heart attacks) had the startling side effect of curing almost

everyone who had suffered from migraines up to that point. Obviously, migraines (and some other headaches) must be caused by vascular problems which cause enough swelling/inflammation to cause nerve irritation. For some reason, most people don't suffer, so either their nerves aren't as sensitive or apparently their bodies adapt better to increased intracranial pressure? Perhaps it's people who already have increased csf levels who are the ones who are overly sensitive to headaches as they can't effectively cope with any further increase in pressure whether vascular, hormonal, atmospheric or...? penny phagelod <mpalmer@...> wrote: aI cited two papers for you describing caffeine and hypotension. You re-posted one, but it was the other one that offered a possible mechanism for the pain relief that caffeine may give for a low pressure headache:"It seems that not the low CSF pressure itself is the cause for the headache but the unphysiological, increased vasodilatation of intracranial and epidural veins."http://tinyurl.com/22dn6eThat is why I referred to the vasoconstricting effects of caffeine.Have you tested the influence of caffeine by "pulsing" it? One day on, the other off.I'm

thinking that the vasculature may build tolerance to the effects of caffiene, but I'm not sure. If it does you may return to previous pain levels even with the caffiene, and experience an exacerbation of the pain when you stop the caffiene.Matt> > Yes, I goofed by saying caffeine expands blood vessels, it constricts > them. BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE EITHER, DOES IT? Why does > caffeine help some migraines and make others worse? Why would > constricting blood vessels in my case help anything?> >

[Guest guest]

To me the thrush is the big red flag. I remember you said that for a few days the diflucan and penicillin seemed to help the headache a lot. I can dig up the posts if you really want. This indicates that you could very well have what a lot of us have. A combo bacterial/fungal infection. In my experience, the diflucan doesn't work for long. I found V-fend to be more effective and Lamisil to be most effective. If the headache comes back, I'd ask the doc to switch anti-fungals for you and see how your headache responds. Personally, I can't do anti-fungals alone just as I can't do antibiotics alone. I need both. penny pjeanneus <pj7@...> wrote: I got sick with something 12 hours after the exam. It was like a mild flu. All the symptoms started at that time including a few days of thrush which cleared up, but the head pressure did not, nor did the vertigo or nystagmus and vestibular nerve damage.I also have rather severe hypoglycemia. It's possible the coffee is increasing adrenaline which improves the low blood sugar and decreases food cravings.a>> a, I wonder if your trigeminal nerve was somehow injured during > the exam. Did the headaches start immediately or some time > afterwards? Do the symptoms fit into any of the major categories

of > headache (migraine, cluster, tension...)? Tried Imitrex or some other > migraine medication? Stopped Recup for a few days?>

[Guest guest]

So what infection would dilate veins? I got this pressure headache,

damaged vestibular nerves and vertigo following a fever and what

looked like a minor viral illness. Now I have a huge level of IgG

EBV - did I get reactivated mono from the vocal cord exam?

a in Wonderland

>

> My migraines are only helped through vasoconstrictors (although

vasoconstrictors like Immitrex & pseudophedrine also make my heart

feel very iffy). But narcotics don't work at all for me. Since

vasoconstriction helps, that indicates that increased blood volume

and the resulting pressure on nerves is one major cause of migraines.

Other things may also increase pressure on those nerves (like

elevated or fluctuating cerebrospinal fluid).

>

> I read recently that a very large percentage of people who have

surgical forehead lifts suddenly stop having migraines. Theory is

that perhaps it desensitizes the nerves somehow, but they don't

really know.

>

> The other big breakthrough in migraines was the recent study that

showed that repairing a small hole between the chambers of the heart

(to prevent heart attacks) had the startling side effect of curing

almost everyone who had suffered from migraines up to that point.

>

> Obviously, migraines (and some other headaches) must be caused by

vascular problems which cause enough swelling/inflammation to cause

nerve irritation. For some reason, most people don't suffer, so

either their nerves aren't as sensitive or apparently their bodies

adapt better to increased intracranial pressure? Perhaps it's people

who already have increased csf levels who are the ones who are overly

sensitive to headaches as they can't effectively cope with any

further increase in pressure whether vascular, hormonal, atmospheric

or...?

>

> penny

>

>

>

> phagelod <mpalmer@...> wrote:

> a

>

> I cited two papers for you describing caffeine and hypotension. You

> re-posted one, but it was the other one that offered a possible

> mechanism for the pain relief that caffeine may give for a low

> pressure headache:

>

> " It seems that not the low CSF pressure itself is the cause for the

> headache but the unphysiological, increased vasodilatation of

> intracranial and epidural veins. "

>

> http://tinyurl.com/22dn6e

>

> That is why I referred to the vasoconstricting effects of caffeine.

>

> Have you tested the influence of caffeine by " pulsing " it? One day

> on, the other off.

>

> I'm thinking that the vasculature may build tolerance to the

effects

> of caffiene, but I'm not sure. If it does you may return to

> previous pain levels even with the caffiene, and experience an

> exacerbation of the pain when you stop the caffiene.

>

> Matt

>

>

>

> >

> > Yes, I goofed by saying caffeine expands blood vessels, it

> constricts

> > them. BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE EITHER, DOES IT? Why does

> > caffeine help some migraines and make others worse? Why would

> > constricting blood vessels in my case help anything?

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I took diflucan one month alone. It did nothing. Then I took

penicillin one month alone. I had a few days of relief.

The headache returned. I took diflucan and penicillin combined, on

your recommendation - didn't tell the doc - for a month. The headache

stayed the same - no relief - sometimes worse.

I got a note from Sharon Briggs. She told me she was doing Valcyte a

la Montoya studies and was doing great. So I got my doc to run the

virus tests and give me Valtrex plus 500 mg of Zithromax a day. I

noted after a week on Valtrex that coffee got rid of the headache or

mostly so. Also, my lab test for EBV came back with an " off the

chart " high IgG.

Meanwhile it is now 2 weeks and I am still doing well - more energy -

can work all day and run around. Is it Valtrex " Coffee? Too soon to

tell.

a

>

> To me the thrush is the big red flag.

>

> I remember you said that for a few days the diflucan and

penicillin seemed to help the headache a lot. I can dig up the posts

if you really want.

>

> This indicates that you could very well have what a lot of us

have. A combo bacterial/fungal infection. In my experience, the

diflucan doesn't work for long. I found V-fend to be more effective

and Lamisil to be most effective.

>

> If the headache comes back, I'd ask the doc to switch anti-

fungals for you and see how your headache responds. Personally, I

can't do anti-fungals alone just as I can't do antibiotics alone. I

need both.

>

> penny

>

>

> pjeanneus <pj7@...> wrote:

> I got sick with something 12 hours after the exam. It was

like a mild

> flu. All the symptoms started at that time including a few days of

> thrush which cleared up, but the head pressure did not, nor did the

> vertigo or nystagmus and vestibular nerve damage.

>

> I also have rather severe hypoglycemia. It's possible the coffee is

> increasing adrenaline which improves the low blood sugar and

decreases

> food cravings.

>

> a

>

> >

> > a, I wonder if your trigeminal nerve was somehow injured

during

> > the exam. Did the headaches start immediately or some time

> > afterwards? Do the symptoms fit into any of the major categories

> of

> > headache (migraine, cluster, tension...)? Tried Imitrex or some

> other

> > migraine medication? Stopped Recup for a few days?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

a

WHAT IS MONO!!!!!!!!! It's just one of those terms used by doctors

describing your throat infection. IT MEANS NOTHING! It also means you

ain't going to get any treatment! unfortuntely...I woulkd much prefer

a throat swab and you have pseudonomal infection or an MRSA infection

rather than being told it's mono or even trying to interpret high EBV

titers, which again means nothing and most importantly- NO TREATMENT!

a you have had thyroid issues followed by voice box issues- could

you possably have had an ongoing infection in these regions that woke

up and escalated at the oppurtunity arising from the examination...

I personally feel that our ilnesses are amplified and lie in the CO2

zones of our body hence the throat and frequent lung manifestations

of ill health..

cheers tony

> >

> > >

> > > Yes, I goofed by saying caffeine expands blood vessels, it

> > constricts

> > > them. BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE EITHER, DOES IT? Why does

> > > caffeine help some migraines and make others worse? Why would

> > > constricting blood vessels in my case help anything?

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Tony,

You are not listening. I don't have a sore throat and have not had a

lung infection or sinus infection in 14 years. I had no clue I had

mono. I just have a sky high EBV IgG titre. I also have elevated C

reactive protein, signs of infection in a urine test and elevated

hemoglobin.

I had my vocal cords examined, not because I was sick, but because I

used to be a classical singer, first soprano soloist and developed a

weird vibration in my vocal cords. I figured it was a polyp. It was

not.

There are a few of us now who look like we have borrelia, mycoplasma

and EBV and HHV6 all combined. Hey, no one is more surprised than me.

But just because it doesn't fit my pet theory for 10 years doesn't

mean I am not willing to add Valtrex. And, yes, my doctor did

prescribe Valtrex. She will prescribe Valcyte if I get a positive

HHV6 lab result.

So how's the weather in aussie land?

Las Vegas is HOT and sunny.

a

>

> a

> WHAT IS MONO!!!!!!!!! It's just one of those terms used by doctors

> describing your throat infection. IT MEANS NOTHING! It also means

you

> ain't going to get any treatment! unfortuntely...I woulkd much

prefer

> a throat swab and you have pseudonomal infection or an MRSA

infection

> rather than being told it's mono or even trying to interpret high

EBV

> titers, which again means nothing and most importantly- NO

TREATMENT!

> a you have had thyroid issues followed by voice box issues-

could

> you possably have had an ongoing infection in these regions that

woke

> up and escalated at the oppurtunity arising from the examination...

> I personally feel that our ilnesses are amplified and lie in the

CO2

> zones of our body hence the throat and frequent lung manifestations

> of ill health..

> cheers tony

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > So what infection would dilate veins? I got this pressure

headache,

> > damaged vestibular nerves and vertigo following a fever and what

> > looked like a minor viral illness. Now I have a huge level of IgG

> > EBV - did I get reactivated mono from the vocal cord exam?

> >

> > a in Wonderland

> >

> > >

> > > My migraines are only helped through vasoconstrictors (although

> > vasoconstrictors like Immitrex & pseudophedrine also make my

heart

> > feel very iffy). But narcotics don't work at all for me. Since

> > vasoconstriction helps, that indicates that increased blood

volume

> > and the resulting pressure on nerves is one major cause of

> migraines.

> > Other things may also increase pressure on those nerves (like

> > elevated or fluctuating cerebrospinal fluid).

> > >

> > > I read recently that a very large percentage of people who

have

> > surgical forehead lifts suddenly stop having migraines. Theory is

> > that perhaps it desensitizes the nerves somehow, but they don't

> > really know.

> > >

> > > The other big breakthrough in migraines was the recent study

> that

> > showed that repairing a small hole between the chambers of the

> heart

> > (to prevent heart attacks) had the startling side effect of

curing

> > almost everyone who had suffered from migraines up to that point.

> > >

> > > Obviously, migraines (and some other headaches) must be

caused

> by

> > vascular problems which cause enough swelling/inflammation to

cause

> > nerve irritation. For some reason, most people don't suffer, so

> > either their nerves aren't as sensitive or apparently their

bodies

> > adapt better to increased intracranial pressure? Perhaps it's

> people

> > who already have increased csf levels who are the ones who are

> overly

> > sensitive to headaches as they can't effectively cope with any

> > further increase in pressure whether vascular, hormonal,

> atmospheric

> > or...?

> > >

> > > penny

> > >

[Guest guest]

PAula

Everyone read this, it's my mass reply!!!YOU ARE THE ONE THAT " S NOT

LISTENING.a if you read carefully on the forums you may notice

the 'mass similarity' that somethings going on in people's

HEADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!You have chosen to go off into an alice

in wonderland diagnostic of mycoplasma positive, or/plus an

antibiotic driven borrelia positive..Ummmmm How comfortable do you

sit with that as a scientific diagnosis?You've obviously avoided

querying the what's in your head that's causing the mass similarity

of symptoms complained by everyone else on many forums problem..

My problem is, I " M LISTENING, And taking notes- I " LL REPEAT THAT LAST

BIT, TAKING NOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Do you

understand anything about toxin or toxic problems?you've never

mentioned anything on this topic.. I mean your so on the frontline of

these ilnesses- yet have turned your head to the elephants your

confronted with of this disease process...

On the valtrex, valcyte, I couldn't give a rats ass... I feel

annything that can break the quorum sensing aspect of these ilnesses

can give you a false sense of being on the right track... your

mission is to get the facts- like membrane damaging toxins and worm

holing capabilities of these bacteria and toxins.So chase a real

villain and a better understanding of what is destroying you, as is

the case with many others, that keep complaining about problems in

THE HEAD.......

cheers tony- a little bit tipsy at this time of the night.....

> > >

> > > So what infection would dilate veins? I got this pressure

> headache,

> > > damaged vestibular nerves and vertigo following a fever and

what

> > > looked like a minor viral illness. Now I have a huge level of

IgG

> > > EBV - did I get reactivated mono from the vocal cord exam?

> > >

> > > a in Wonderland

> > >

> > > >

> > > > My migraines are only helped through vasoconstrictors

(although

> > > vasoconstrictors like Immitrex & pseudophedrine also make my

> heart

> > > feel very iffy). But narcotics don't work at all for me. Since

> > > vasoconstriction helps, that indicates that increased blood

> volume

> > > and the resulting pressure on nerves is one major cause of

> > migraines.

> > > Other things may also increase pressure on those nerves (like

> > > elevated or fluctuating cerebrospinal fluid).

> > > >

> > > > I read recently that a very large percentage of people who

> have

> > > surgical forehead lifts suddenly stop having migraines. Theory

is

> > > that perhaps it desensitizes the nerves somehow, but they don't

> > > really know.

> > > >

> > > > The other big breakthrough in migraines was the recent

study

> > that

> > > showed that repairing a small hole between the chambers of the

> > heart

> > > (to prevent heart attacks) had the startling side effect of

> curing

> > > almost everyone who had suffered from migraines up to that

point.

> > > >

> > > > Obviously, migraines (and some other headaches) must be

> caused

> > by

> > > vascular problems which cause enough swelling/inflammation to

> cause

> > > nerve irritation. For some reason, most people don't suffer, so

> > > either their nerves aren't as sensitive or apparently their

> bodies

> > > adapt better to increased intracranial pressure? Perhaps it's

> > people

> > > who already have increased csf levels who are the ones who are

> > overly

> > > sensitive to headaches as they can't effectively cope with any

> > > further increase in pressure whether vascular, hormonal,

> > atmospheric

> > > or...?

> > > >

> > > > penny

> > > >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Tony,

I haven't had head symptoms for 8 years. Only time I had them was the

first 2 years I was sick and then this past year out of the blue,

and, guess what, my EBV titre was up back then.

Am I aware of toxins? Which ones? I react to toxic mold. I could be a

mold dog.

What am I infected with? mycoplasma fermentans, borrelia, babesia

mycoplasmal pneumonia, and EBV, maybe HHV6???? So what's the big deal

about adding Valtrex to the antibiotics? Why not?

I haven't had the nerve to quit drinking coffee yet. But since you

are still drinking beer, I guess I can be a caffeine addict. Watch

out for them crocs on your way home at night, Tony.

a

>

> PAula

> Everyone read this, it's my mass reply!!!YOU ARE THE ONE THAT " S NOT

> LISTENING.a if you read carefully on the forums you may notice

> the 'mass similarity' that somethings going on in people's

> HEADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!You have chosen to go off into an

alice

> in wonderland diagnostic of mycoplasma positive, or/plus an

> antibiotic driven borrelia positive..Ummmmm How comfortable do you

> sit with that as a scientific diagnosis?You've obviously avoided

> querying the what's in your head that's causing the mass similarity

> of symptoms complained by everyone else on many forums problem..

> My problem is, I " M LISTENING, And taking notes- I " LL REPEAT THAT

LAST

> BIT, TAKING NOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Do

you

> understand anything about toxin or toxic problems?you've never

> mentioned anything on this topic.. I mean your so on the frontline

of

> these ilnesses- yet have turned your head to the elephants your

> confronted with of this disease process...

> On the valtrex, valcyte, I couldn't give a rats ass... I feel

> annything that can break the quorum sensing aspect of these

ilnesses

> can give you a false sense of being on the right track... your

> mission is to get the facts- like membrane damaging toxins and worm

> holing capabilities of these bacteria and toxins.So chase a real

> villain and a better understanding of what is destroying you, as is

> the case with many others, that keep complaining about problems in

> THE HEAD.......

> cheers tony- a little bit tipsy at this time of the night.....

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > So what infection would dilate veins? I got this pressure

> > headache,

> > > > damaged vestibular nerves and vertigo following a fever and

> what

> > > > looked like a minor viral illness. Now I have a huge level of

> IgG

> > > > EBV - did I get reactivated mono from the vocal cord exam?

> > > >

> > > > a in Wonderland

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > My migraines are only helped through vasoconstrictors

> (although

> > > > vasoconstrictors like Immitrex & pseudophedrine also make my

> > heart

> > > > feel very iffy). But narcotics don't work at all for me.

Since

> > > > vasoconstriction helps, that indicates that increased blood

> > volume

> > > > and the resulting pressure on nerves is one major cause of

> > > migraines.

> > > > Other things may also increase pressure on those nerves (like

> > > > elevated or fluctuating cerebrospinal fluid).

> > > > >

> > > > > I read recently that a very large percentage of people

who

> > have

> > > > surgical forehead lifts suddenly stop having migraines.

Theory

> is

> > > > that perhaps it desensitizes the nerves somehow, but they

don't

> > > > really know.

> > > > >

> > > > > The other big breakthrough in migraines was the recent

> study

> > > that

> > > > showed that repairing a small hole between the chambers of

the

> > > heart

> > > > (to prevent heart attacks) had the startling side effect of

> > curing

> > > > almost everyone who had suffered from migraines up to that

> point.

> > > > >

> > > > > Obviously, migraines (and some other headaches) must be

> > caused

> > > by

> > > > vascular problems which cause enough swelling/inflammation to

> > cause

> > > > nerve irritation. For some reason, most people don't suffer,

so

> > > > either their nerves aren't as sensitive or apparently their

> > bodies

> > > > adapt better to increased intracranial pressure? Perhaps it's

> > > people

> > > > who already have increased csf levels who are the ones who

are

> > > overly

> > > > sensitive to headaches as they can't effectively cope with

any

> > > > further increase in pressure whether vascular, hormonal,

> > > atmospheric

> > > > or...?

> > > > >

> > > > > penny

> > > > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

PAula

my point was missed again. You are at the forefront of these

conditions-almost like an authority figure of this whole auto immune

mess. You go to all the medical seminars and just about get up on

stage your so high up in the door knocking and answer searching

business for cfs/lyme. But for some reason you've got yourself in

this little corner and just show that you DON " T PAY ATTENTION to what

it is that ails everyone in this whole menagerie of symptoms.

ME is the english word for cfs it is called myalgic encephalitis

reffering to a problem in the head encephalopathy..surprisingly it's

a softer version of meningitis- neck stiffness, headaches, visual

problems but not as intense- in full blown meningitis the ducs don't

think your chin can touch your chest-just another of those brilliant

medical tests- NOT!!!

Now to show your ignorance, you claim 'no head problems' since you

first come down with the condition?If anyone with these conditions

didn't have head problems they really wouldn't have this ilness- 96%

of people with these ilnesses have sinus infections .Our penny has

the sinus infection from hell and she didn't have a symptom of sinus

problems.I'm pretty comfortable in anatomy that a sinus infection

isn't that far from your inner ear/brain, POSSABLY GIVING YOU A

MYRIAD OF OTHER PROBLEMS that you seem to have, yet have no answer

for, nor show any real passion to venture away from your pet pathogen

diagnosis...Yet from shoemaker and esoterix you have the highly

resistant, reactive, microbes with all the bells and whistles

damaging toxins but we don't really want to get an idea where they

are at?

cheers recovering tony

> > > > >

> > > > > So what infection would dilate veins? I got this pressure

> > > headache,

> > > > > damaged vestibular nerves and vertigo following a fever and

> > what

> > > > > looked like a minor viral illness. Now I have a huge level

of

> > IgG

> > > > > EBV - did I get reactivated mono from the vocal cord exam?

> > > > >

> > > > > a in Wonderland

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My migraines are only helped through vasoconstrictors

> > (although

> > > > > vasoconstrictors like Immitrex & pseudophedrine also make

my

> > > heart

> > > > > feel very iffy). But narcotics don't work at all for me.

> Since

> > > > > vasoconstriction helps, that indicates that increased blood

> > > volume

> > > > > and the resulting pressure on nerves is one major cause of

> > > > migraines.

> > > > > Other things may also increase pressure on those nerves

(like

> > > > > elevated or fluctuating cerebrospinal fluid).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I read recently that a very large percentage of people

> who

> > > have

> > > > > surgical forehead lifts suddenly stop having migraines.

> Theory

> > is

> > > > > that perhaps it desensitizes the nerves somehow, but they

> don't

> > > > > really know.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The other big breakthrough in migraines was the recent

> > study

> > > > that

> > > > > showed that repairing a small hole between the chambers of

> the

> > > > heart

> > > > > (to prevent heart attacks) had the startling side effect of

> > > curing

> > > > > almost everyone who had suffered from migraines up to that

> > point.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Obviously, migraines (and some other headaches) must be

> > > caused

> > > > by

> > > > > vascular problems which cause enough swelling/inflammation

to

> > > cause

> > > > > nerve irritation. For some reason, most people don't

suffer,

> so

> > > > > either their nerves aren't as sensitive or apparently their

> > > bodies

> > > > > adapt better to increased intracranial pressure? Perhaps

it's

> > > > people

> > > > > who already have increased csf levels who are the ones who

> are

> > > > overly

> > > > > sensitive to headaches as they can't effectively cope with

> any

> > > > > further increase in pressure whether vascular, hormonal,

> > > > atmospheric

> > > > > or...?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > penny

> > > > > >

> > >

> >

>