Re: negative TB test results

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Penny

This brings up an interesting article on today's news. They feel that

since many women feel terrible about doing pap smears which look for

abnormal cells and are only 80% comfortable.Now they will do a, swab

at home kit, looking for HPV human papilloma virus to check which one

you have and it's ability to cause cancers.And the stats on this

simpler test are higher in the 90% something region

So growing the virus instead of lookuing at the cells is the smarter

option as far as womens health goes..

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> Just heard the latest report on the TB patient. 2 tests have come

back negative and they're waiting for the 3rd. If it is also

negative, they're saying that he can " probably be considered fairly

non-contagious " .

>

> Cracks me up.

>

> Just shows you that these tests aren't 100% and even if you're

infected you can test negative for a number of reasons. People

shouldn't necessarily believe the first negative result they get,

especially if they've got symptoms. We have to start pushing doctors

for more comprehensive bacterial testing. Not just a brush off, or

worse, no testing at all. It's irresponsible on the parts of doctors.

>

> penny

>

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If his fiancee wasn't infected why would folks on a plane be? Also,

where did he get the infection???? There have only been 2 cases

diagnosed in the entire US, but father-in-law works with TB at the CDC

in Atlanta. What is wrong with this picture?

a

>

> Just heard the latest report on the TB patient. 2 tests have come

back negative and they're waiting for the 3rd. If it is also negative,

they're saying that he can " probably be considered fairly non-

contagious " .

>

> Cracks me up.

>

> Just shows you that these tests aren't 100% and even if you're

infected you can test negative for a number of reasons. People

shouldn't necessarily believe the first negative result they get,

especially if they've got symptoms. We have to start pushing doctors

for more comprehensive bacterial testing. Not just a brush off, or

worse, no testing at all. It's irresponsible on the parts of doctors.

>

> penny

>

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I meant to write that the fiancee does not have TB. Yes, the man has

TB. As to how he got it - it is not unusual to get TB in the US - it

is very unusual to get the strain of TB this young, otherwise

healthy, upper middle class man has. That is why I wonder if he got

it by way of the CDC and perhaps some careless work coming out the

door.

I don't know, and I don't think we ever will know.

a Carnes

>

> Yes, but 2 million people per year are dying of it. So which seems

more absurd to you, the 2 million worldwide or the 2 in the U.S? Are

we really that healthy in the U.S?

>

> It is weird that his father-in-law works at the CDC but not

because that's necessarily how he got it. I think it's interesting

because obviously he would have a better understanding of how to

treat it. Also interesting that his father is a lawyer. I wonder what

would be happening if a slightly more average citizen were dealing

with this public hazard? Probably facing the lynch mobs.

>

> Also, newscasters are calling it a " rare " form of TB, which

really irks me. All it is, is a very resistant form of the bacteria.

Doesn't make it rare at all. He's just like a lot of us walking

around with resistant bacteria and the possibility of spreading it to

other susceptible people, but these bugs aren't seen as threatening.

Talk about foolish. This resistance is what a few doctors (and the

American Academy of Pediatricians) have been trying to warn about,

but no-one's listening.

>

> Also yes, the guy still has a " mass " in his lung but his tests

are coming back negative and that makes him " probably not

contagious " . First off, shows how wrong tests can be. And secondly,

it illustrates what usually happens if you have an infection that

isn't responding to abx. Surgical removal. This is why you see so

many diabetics get their feet amputated (although they often aren't

provided with all the treatment available because it's so costly).

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> It's also why it's so frustrating when that infected mass is in

your jaw or your sinuses, because you can't amputate those areas &

surgical removal is very tricky. The docs/dentists who work on those

areas are so undertrained that you wouldn't really want them to try.

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> penny

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> jim davis <jimd85379@...> wrote:

> Did I miss something, I heard reports that the person

> had a mass about the size of a golf ball, that needed

> to be cut out. Is there a question, that he has TB?

> --- pjeanneus <pj7@...> wrote:

>

> > If his fiancee wasn't infected why would folks on a

> > plane be? Also,

> > where did he get the infection???? There have only

> > been 2 cases

> > diagnosed in the entire US, but father-in-law works

> > with TB at the CDC

> > in Atlanta. What is wrong with this picture?

> >

> > a

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Just heard the latest report on the TB patient. 2

> > tests have come

> > back negative and they're waiting for the 3rd. If it

> > is also negative,

> > they're saying that he can " probably be considered

> > fairly non-

> > contagious " .

> > >

> > > Cracks me up.

> > >

> > > Just shows you that these tests aren't 100% and

> > even if you're

> > infected you can test negative for a number of

> > reasons. People

> > shouldn't necessarily believe the first negative

> > result they get,

> > especially if they've got symptoms. We have to start

> > pushing doctors

> > for more comprehensive bacterial testing. Not just a

> > brush off, or

> > worse, no testing at all. It's irresponsible on the

> > parts of doctors.

> > >

> > > penny

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Tha'ts bullshit. My friend went to thailand for three weeks and came

back with TB. It's not that hard to get but will spring up in people

that are weaker/ obese. My friend was obese and on the verge of

diabetes when he contracted his TB.., so you may by roaming the globe

develop many healthy carriers of TB that need another insult to allow

this to manifest.But they can possably spread it to people that are

close..

tony

>

> > If his fiancee wasn't infected why would folks on a

> > plane be? Also,

> > where did he get the infection???? There have only

> > been 2 cases

> > diagnosed in the entire US, but father-in-law works

> > with TB at the CDC

> > in Atlanta. What is wrong with this picture?

> >

> > a

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Just heard the latest report on the TB patient. 2

> > tests have come

> > back negative and they're waiting for the 3rd. If it

> > is also negative,

> > they're saying that he can " probably be considered

> > fairly non-

> > contagious " .

> > >

> > > Cracks me up.

> > >

> > > Just shows you that these tests aren't 100% and

> > even if you're

> > infected you can test negative for a number of

> > reasons. People

> > shouldn't necessarily believe the first negative

> > result they get,

> > especially if they've got symptoms. We have to start

> > pushing doctors

> > for more comprehensive bacterial testing. Not just a

> > brush off, or

> > worse, no testing at all. It's irresponsible on the

> > parts of doctors.

> > >

> > > penny

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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