Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Would anyone want to work with me in testing their offending sounds? Send me recordings of the sounds that bother you and then I'll try to filter the sound clip to remove certain frequencies and then send it back to you. Make sure that the file you send me in fact does trigger you. When you get the filtered file back you can play them side by side and see if that makes a difference. Email me at xl_cheese at hotmail dot com. In reading about how the ear works perhaps we could find an ear surgeon to " tune " our ears to remove the offending frequencies? Or perhaps there's a way to deafen our hearing at the specific frequencies? http://health.howstuffworks.com/hearing4.htm The vocal range is only from 70-1000Hz. So far I'm seeing my offending sounds occuring from 9000-11000Hz. Removing this narrow band from our hearing would not make us deaf. > > So I'm trying some experiements to see if I can find a path for us to > explore. > > I've asked my exwife to send me some recordings of her speaking using > offending words and sounds. I will then take that recording and see > if there's a filter I can apply that will filter out the frequencies > that are triggering. > > Just some quick experiments using my own voice seems to produce > positive results. Here's an FFT of me making an sssss' sound. > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > action=view & current=SSSS.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg " > border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > Here's an FFT of the same recording except that I have removed the > peak frequencies. > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > action=view & current=SSSS_filtered.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS_filtered.jp > g " border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > I wonder if our ears are amplifying the offending frequencies more > than others? These FFT's show how a microphone intrepts them, but of > course we may hear them differently. We would never know because > that is all we have ever known. Maybe they are not amplified by > them, but are tickled by them? (see my previous post.) > > An FFT (fast fourier transform) is just an amplitude vs frequency > plot of a sound. > > I haven't spent a lot to time honing in on the frequencies that are > triggering, but my inital stab seems to be between 9kHz and 11kHz. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Interesting route! I wanted to add that even though the vocal range only goes up to 1000 Hz, speech information is carried up all the way up past 6 kHz. I imagine that's because the vocal chords don't actually vibrate for many sounds, so they can be at frequencies above the vocal range? Or maybe it's harmonics. Just wanted to put that out there. > > > > So I'm trying some experiements to see if I can find a path for us to > > explore. > > > > I've asked my exwife to send me some recordings of her speaking using > > offending words and sounds. I will then take that recording and see > > if there's a filter I can apply that will filter out the frequencies > > that are triggering. > > > > Just some quick experiments using my own voice seems to produce > > positive results. Here's an FFT of me making an sssss' sound. > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > action=view & current=SSSS.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg " > > border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > Here's an FFT of the same recording except that I have removed the > > peak frequencies. > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > action=view & current=SSSS_filtered.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS_filtered.jp > > g " border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > I wonder if our ears are amplifying the offending frequencies more > > than others? These FFT's show how a microphone intrepts them, but of > > course we may hear them differently. We would never know because > > that is all we have ever known. Maybe they are not amplified by > > them, but are tickled by them? (see my previous post.) > > > > An FFT (fast fourier transform) is just an amplitude vs frequency > > plot of a sound. > > > > I haven't spent a lot to time honing in on the frequencies that are > > triggering, but my inital stab seems to be between 9kHz and 11kHz. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I'm sort of grasping at straws here. I just want my wife back. > > > > > > So I'm trying some experiements to see if I can find a path for > us to > > > explore. > > > > > > I've asked my exwife to send me some recordings of her speaking > using > > > offending words and sounds. I will then take that recording and > see > > > if there's a filter I can apply that will filter out the > frequencies > > > that are triggering. > > > > > > Just some quick experiments using my own voice seems to produce > > > positive results. Here's an FFT of me making an sssss' sound. > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > action=view & current=SSSS.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg " > > > border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > Here's an FFT of the same recording except that I have removed > the > > > peak frequencies. > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > action=view & current=SSSS_filtered.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS_filtered.jp > > > g " border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > I wonder if our ears are amplifying the offending frequencies > more > > > than others? These FFT's show how a microphone intrepts them, > but of > > > course we may hear them differently. We would never know because > > > that is all we have ever known. Maybe they are not amplified by > > > them, but are tickled by them? (see my previous post.) > > > > > > An FFT (fast fourier transform) is just an amplitude vs frequency > > > plot of a sound. > > > > > > I haven't spent a lot to time honing in on the frequencies that > are > > > triggering, but my inital stab seems to be between 9kHz and 11kHz. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Does is bug you when you talk to her on the phone? Phones filter above 3 kHz, I think. > > > > > > > > So I'm trying some experiements to see if I can find a path for > > us to > > > > explore. > > > > > > > > I've asked my exwife to send me some recordings of her speaking > > using > > > > offending words and sounds. I will then take that recording and > > see > > > > if there's a filter I can apply that will filter out the > > frequencies > > > > that are triggering. > > > > > > > > Just some quick experiments using my own voice seems to produce > > > > positive results. Here's an FFT of me making an sssss' sound. > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > > action=view & current=SSSS.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg " > > > > border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > > > Here's an FFT of the same recording except that I have removed > > the > > > > peak frequencies. > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > > action=view & current=SSSS_filtered.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > > > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS_filtered.jp > > > > g " border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > > > I wonder if our ears are amplifying the offending frequencies > > more > > > > than others? These FFT's show how a microphone intrepts them, > > but of > > > > course we may hear them differently. We would never know because > > > > that is all we have ever known. Maybe they are not amplified by > > > > them, but are tickled by them? (see my previous post.) > > > > > > > > An FFT (fast fourier transform) is just an amplitude vs frequency > > > > plot of a sound. > > > > > > > > I haven't spent a lot to time honing in on the frequencies that > > are > > > > triggering, but my inital stab seems to be between 9kHz and 11kHz. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 No. THere has got to be a way to kill the hearing in the 8k-12k band. I came to my ex wifes house today to try these experiements on her voice. I felt like it would work for me if I could deaded that frequency range. > > > > > > > > > > So I'm trying some experiements to see if I can find a path > for > > > us to > > > > > explore. > > > > > > > > > > I've asked my exwife to send me some recordings of her > speaking > > > using > > > > > offending words and sounds. I will then take that recording > and > > > see > > > > > if there's a filter I can apply that will filter out the > > > frequencies > > > > > that are triggering. > > > > > > > > > > Just some quick experiments using my own voice seems to > produce > > > > > positive results. Here's an FFT of me making an sssss' sound. > > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > > > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > > > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg " > > > > > border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > > > > > Here's an FFT of the same recording except that I have > removed > > > the > > > > > peak frequencies. > > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > > > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS_filtered.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > > > > > > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS_filtered.jp > > > > > g " border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if our ears are amplifying the offending frequencies > > > more > > > > > than others? These FFT's show how a microphone intrepts > them, > > > but of > > > > > course we may hear them differently. We would never know > because > > > > > that is all we have ever known. Maybe they are not amplified > by > > > > > them, but are tickled by them? (see my previous post.) > > > > > > > > > > An FFT (fast fourier transform) is just an amplitude vs > frequency > > > > > plot of a sound. > > > > > > > > > > I haven't spent a lot to time honing in on the frequencies > that > > > are > > > > > triggering, but my inital stab seems to be between 9kHz and > 11kHz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 The noise generators that some of our members wear might be the ticket, huh? I don't know anything about how they work, but I think they're based on tinnitus maskers. > > > > > > > > > > > > So I'm trying some experiements to see if I can find a path > > for > > > > us to > > > > > > explore. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've asked my exwife to send me some recordings of her > > speaking > > > > using > > > > > > offending words and sounds. I will then take that > recording > > and > > > > see > > > > > > if there's a filter I can apply that will filter out the > > > > frequencies > > > > > > that are triggering. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just some quick experiments using my own voice seems to > > produce > > > > > > positive results. Here's an FFT of me making an sssss' > sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > > > > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > > > > > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg " > > > > > > border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's an FFT of the same recording except that I have > > removed > > > > the > > > > > > peak frequencies. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > > > > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS_filtered.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > > > > > > > > > > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS_filtered.jp > > > > > > g " border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if our ears are amplifying the offending > frequencies > > > > more > > > > > > than others? These FFT's show how a microphone intrepts > > them, > > > > but of > > > > > > course we may hear them differently. We would never know > > because > > > > > > that is all we have ever known. Maybe they are not > amplified > > by > > > > > > them, but are tickled by them? (see my previous post.) > > > > > > > > > > > > An FFT (fast fourier transform) is just an amplitude vs > > frequency > > > > > > plot of a sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't spent a lot to time honing in on the frequencies > > that > > > > are > > > > > > triggering, but my inital stab seems to be between 9kHz and > > 11kHz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Really. It doesn't bother you to talk to her on the phone? That seems to be a significant clue. I will ask my husband when he comes home. He was going to work on trying to make headphones that filter out certain frequencies. He knew a guy that was interested in helping us. If the phone filters it, then why couldn't a headphone? -----Original Message-----From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ]On Behalf Of xl_cheese24Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:28 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: An experiment. No.THere has got to be a way to kill the hearing in the 8k-12k band.I came to my ex wifes house today to try these experiements on her voice. I felt like it would work for me if I could deaded that frequency range. > > > > >> > > > > So I'm trying some experiements to see if I can find a path > for > > > us to > > > > > explore.> > > > > > > > > > I've asked my exwife to send me some recordings of her > speaking > > > using > > > > > offending words and sounds. I will then take that recording > and > > > see > > > > > if there's a filter I can apply that will filter out the > > > frequencies > > > > > that are triggering.> > > > > > > > > > Just some quick experiments using my own voice seems to > produce > > > > > positive results. Here's an FFT of me making an sssss' sound.> > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg> > > > > <a href="http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/?> > > > > action=view & current=SSSS.jpg" target="_blank"><img > > > > > > src=" " > > > > > border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>> > > > > > > > > > Here's an FFT of the same recording except that I have > removed > > > the > > > > > peak frequencies.> > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg> > > > > <a href="http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/?> > > > > action=view & current=SSSS_filtered.jpg" target="_blank"><img > > > > > > > > > src="http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS_filtered.jp> > > > > g" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>> > > > > > > > > > I wonder if our ears are amplifying the offending frequencies > > > more > > > > > than others? These FFT's show how a microphone intrepts > them, > > > but of > > > > > course we may hear them differently. We would never know > because > > > > > that is all we have ever known. Maybe they are not amplified > by > > > > > them, but are tickled by them? (see my previous post.)> > > > > > > > > > An FFT (fast fourier transform) is just an amplitude vs > frequency > > > > > plot of a sound. > > > > > > > > > > I haven't spent a lot to time honing in on the frequencies > that > > > are > > > > > triggering, but my inital stab seems to be between 9kHz and > 11kHz.> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 No, they don't filter, just mask. -----Original Message-----From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ]On Behalf Of annareutzelSent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:55 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: An experiment. The noise generators that some of our members wear might be the ticket, huh? I don't know anything about how they work, but I think they're based on tinnitus maskers.> > > > > >> > > > > > So I'm trying some experiements to see if I can find a path > > for > > > > us to > > > > > > explore.> > > > > > > > > > > > I've asked my exwife to send me some recordings of her > > speaking > > > > using > > > > > > offending words and sounds. I will then take that > recording > > and > > > > see > > > > > > if there's a filter I can apply that will filter out the > > > > frequencies > > > > > > that are triggering.> > > > > > > > > > > > Just some quick experiments using my own voice seems to > > produce > > > > > > positive results. Here's an FFT of me making an sssss' > sound.> > > > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg> > > > > > <a href="http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/?> > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS.jpg" target="_blank"><img > > > > > > > > src=" " > > > > > > border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>> > > > > > > > > > > > Here's an FFT of the same recording except that I have > > removed > > > > the > > > > > > peak frequencies.> > > > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg> > > > > > <a href="http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/?> > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS_filtered.jpg" target="_blank"><img > > > > > > > > > > > > > src="http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS_filtered.jp> > > > > > g" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>> > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if our ears are amplifying the offending > frequencies > > > > more > > > > > > than others? These FFT's show how a microphone intrepts > > them, > > > > but of > > > > > > course we may hear them differently. We would never know > > because > > > > > > that is all we have ever known. Maybe they are not > amplified > > by > > > > > > them, but are tickled by them? (see my previous post.)> > > > > > > > > > > > An FFT (fast fourier transform) is just an amplitude vs > > frequency > > > > > > plot of a sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't spent a lot to time honing in on the frequencies > > that > > > > are > > > > > > triggering, but my inital stab seems to be between 9kHz and > > 11kHz.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 agreed. I have a pair and they didn't help me at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I'm trying some experiements to see if I can find a > path > > > for > > > > > us to > > > > > > > explore. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've asked my exwife to send me some recordings of her > > > speaking > > > > > using > > > > > > > offending words and sounds. I will then take that > > recording > > > and > > > > > see > > > > > > > if there's a filter I can apply that will filter out the > > > > > frequencies > > > > > > > that are triggering. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just some quick experiments using my own voice seems to > > > produce > > > > > > > positive results. Here's an FFT of me making an sssss' > > sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > > > > > <a > href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > > > > > > > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg " > > > > > > > border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's an FFT of the same recording except that I have > > > removed > > > > > the > > > > > > > peak frequencies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > > > > > <a > href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS_filtered.jpg " > target= " _blank " ><img > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS_filtered.jp > > > > > > > g " border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if our ears are amplifying the offending > > frequencies > > > > > more > > > > > > > than others? These FFT's show how a microphone intrepts > > > them, > > > > > but of > > > > > > > course we may hear them differently. We would never know > > > because > > > > > > > that is all we have ever known. Maybe they are not > > amplified > > > by > > > > > > > them, but are tickled by them? (see my previous post.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An FFT (fast fourier transform) is just an amplitude vs > > > frequency > > > > > > > plot of a sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't spent a lot to time honing in on the > frequencies > > > that > > > > > are > > > > > > > triggering, but my inital stab seems to be between 9kHz > and > > > 11kHz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 that's great someone else is on the same path as me. I'm going to hammer the doors to find some hearing aids that filter those frequencies. I went to the audiagolist this afternoon and pleaded my case. She listened and really came up blank. She suggested some steroid injections that the use to treat tintinnus. She also never had heard of hearing aids that would filter frequencies. Needless to say this grown man teared up pretty well sitting in the office. > > > > > > > > > > > > So I'm trying some experiements to see if I can find a path > > for > > > > us to > > > > > > explore. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've asked my exwife to send me some recordings of her > > speaking > > > > using > > > > > > offending words and sounds. I will then take that > recording > > and > > > > see > > > > > > if there's a filter I can apply that will filter out the > > > > frequencies > > > > > > that are triggering. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just some quick experiments using my own voice seems to > > produce > > > > > > positive results. Here's an FFT of me making an sssss' > sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > > > > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > > > > > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg " > > > > > > border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's an FFT of the same recording except that I have > > removed > > > > the > > > > > > peak frequencies. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > > > > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS_filtered.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > > > > > > > > > > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS_filtered.jp > > > > > > g " border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if our ears are amplifying the offending > frequencies > > > > more > > > > > > than others? These FFT's show how a microphone intrepts > > them, > > > > but of > > > > > > course we may hear them differently. We would never know > > because > > > > > > that is all we have ever known. Maybe they are not > amplified > > by > > > > > > them, but are tickled by them? (see my previous post.) > > > > > > > > > > > > An FFT (fast fourier transform) is just an amplitude vs > > frequency > > > > > > plot of a sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't spent a lot to time honing in on the frequencies > > that > > > > are > > > > > > triggering, but my inital stab seems to be between 9kHz and > > 11kHz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I found this place that sells hearing devices. More specifially musicians ear plugs. I don't know how they work, but I have been put in tough with their audiologist. I have not heard back yet, but I think either a notch filter or low pass filter will do the trick for me based on listening to the recordings. My exwife swore she could not tell a difference between an unfilter track and the filtered one. For me it was night and day. I wish I could say money is no object, but I can probably come up with a nice chunck of money to help in developement. Maybe I'm dreaming and something like this costs more to develop than I could ever come up with. I drug myself into work today and can barely hold myself together. I can't really speak to anyone without bursting into tears. I've barely been here 2 hours and had to run to my truck in the parking lot already. Never could I have thought someone could feel this way. I guess all my 'man' training has flown out of the window. > > See the most popular videos on the web > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I am so sorry that you are in such emotional pain. Feelings and pain are part of being a human. You are going through a huge emotional time so having and showing emotions is not something that you should beat yourself up over. I understand that you do not want to break down in front of people. I like the saying 'you've got to feel it to heal it'. I am glad that you are still able to get yourself to work each day. I am worried about your mental health, please just promise that if you have thoughts of hurting yourself or can not function because of your emotions that you reach out to a mental health professional. I've had to do it and honestly would not be here if I did not. I know that you are desperatly seeking a solution for your 4S so that you can perhaps get your wife back. Maybe your kind of gusto is what is needed to make something happen? Part of me thinks that if she did not want to except you for who you are (good and bad) that maybe that is not the best partner that the universe can provide for you? I just want you to know that I hear your pain and your desperation to not be effected by 4s. None of us want this darn problem but I get the sense that you want to get rid of it most to please someone else who will take you back and all your probs will be solved. I don't know that this is a realistic expectation or the best partnership to be in since so far 4S has a 0% cure rate? I admire all you are doing to fix your 4S, I hope your life's journey gets less rocky as you keep traveling down the road. I just know that there are brighter, happy days for you in the future. If my husband walked out on me because of my 4S I would need professional mental healthcare and close- hand holding support, no question. I think you are in a hell of a place now, but if you let life play out for a while...get help when you need it.. you will get through this most difficult time. > I found this place that sells hearing devices. More specifially > musicians ear plugs. I don't know how they work, but I have been put > in tough with their audiologist. > > I have not heard back yet, but I think either a notch filter or low > pass filter will do the trick for me based on listening to the > recordings. My exwife swore she could not tell a difference between an > unfilter track and the filtered one. For me it was night and day. > > I wish I could say money is no object, but I can probably come up with > a nice chunck of money to help in developement. Maybe I'm dreaming and > something like this costs more to develop than I could ever come up > with. > > I drug myself into work today and can barely hold myself together. I > can't really speak to anyone without bursting into tears. I've barely > been here 2 hours and had to run to my truck in the parking lot > already. Never could I have thought someone could feel this way. I > guess all my 'man' training has flown out of the window. > > > > > > See the most popular videos on the web > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Our divorce was pretty mutual. The last few months we lived together we rarely spoke. She would write things down to tell me something. After I moved out the problems weren't as severe and we looked forward to our weekends together. but even that was difficult when the problem persisted. We were both depressed. I can't imagine anyone being able to endure what she did. I'm the one that actually moved out and bough a house. I think back what motivated me to do so I have no idea. I see some of the things we owned together in the house and it hurts. I also see the things I bought for myself after moving out and it hurts. For whatever reason purchasing things like a camera were almost fun for me. I was not looking at the whole picture and what I was actually doing. I guess I was in denial that we'd ever end. She finally decided that she couldn't live like this and has taken a step into moving on. I've been calling therapists, but have not yet received a response. I shoudl would like to see one to help me make it thought my day. I had to come home for lunch, but I can't eat. I hate this house I live in because of what it represents. The beginning of the end my my marrige. > > > > > > See the most popular videos on the web > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I heard back from a Lady with Etymotic research. She seems very optimistic that there may already be the tecnhology there to do this. After finding so many dead ends today it was a nice relief for someone ot sympathize and stray from the audiologist checklist. > > > > See the most popular videos on the web > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I am no shrink but I am bipolar so I know a thing or two about emotional states and you are suffering from depression clear as day. Sometimes our brains get so overwhelmed that we can get stuck and you are stuck. Here are the symptoms of depression right out of a pamphlet: -Poor appetite and weight loss (or the opposite) increased appetite and weight gain. -Sleep Disturbance: sleeping too little or sleeping too much or in an irregular pattern -Change in Activity Level: either decreased or increased -Loss of Interest: or pleasure in usual activities -persistently sad or irritable mood -difficulty thinking, concentrating, and remembering -Decreased sexual Drive -Feelings of worthlessness: or excessive guilt which may reach grossly unreasonable (delusional) proportions. -Recurrent thoughts of death: or self harm, wishing to be dead or contemplating or attempting suicide. One does not have to have every symptom to be considered as having depression, but I am betting that a few match up with what you are going through right now. PLEASE keep calling your insurance or whatever to get in and see a therapist who may refer you to a psychiatrist. I know how fuzzy and hard it is to advocate for yourself in the middle of this. Having someone outside yourself who is trained to deal with working through depression, etc. will be a life ring for you! If you can muster up the strength and since you came home at lunch... call and call until you have an appointment!!!! My email is lclifton22@..., I am waiting for you to contact me and tell me that you got in to see someone or at least an appointment by the end of the week. When you talk to the therapist or her front office tell them you are in crisis and need to be seen asap! I will be worrying about you till then so please just do it! P.S. Being bipolar I have cried and carried on in public such embarrassing displays. I have run out of doctors offices crying and just trying to escape because I needed to be alone to freak out and it was coming weather I wanted it to or not. The great thing about a therapist is that you can cry your eyes out and they will just hand you as many tissues as you need. Psychiatrists are much colder and more clinical, not as warm as phychologists. With psychiatrists just expect a hand shake and a perscription. It is with therapists, ie. psychologsits that the real talk therapy occurs. If you can ask to be seen twice a week at first, then move to once a week, etc.. Stand up for yourself and tell them what you need, don't let them do some kind of once a month deal or even every two weeks, you are not there yet. Best of luck and I am waiting to hear from you!!!! > > > > > > > > See the most popular videos on the web > > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Yeah, the audiologist my daughter went to said she didn't think anything filtered sound frequencies. I think that we need to somehow make some ourselves. I don't know if my husband still speaks to the guy who offered to help us last year. They were going to use headphones and put a filter on it--or something to that effect. I'll ask him tonight. Kathy -----Original Message-----From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ]On Behalf Of xl_cheese24Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:56 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: An experiment. that's great someone else is on the same path as me. I'm going to hammer the doors to find some hearing aids that filter those frequencies.I went to the audiagolist this afternoon and pleaded my case. Shelistened and really came up blank. She suggested some steroidinjections that the use to treat tintinnus. She also never had heardof hearing aids that would filter frequencies. Needless to say thisgrown man teared up pretty well sitting in the office. > > > > > >> > > > > > So I'm trying some experiements to see if I can find a path> > for> > > > us to> > > > > > explore.> > > > > >> > > > > > I've asked my exwife to send me some recordings of her> > speaking> > > > using> > > > > > offending words and sounds. I will then take that> recording> > and> > > > see> > > > > > if there's a filter I can apply that will filter out the> > > > frequencies> > > > > > that are triggering.> > > > > >> > > > > > Just some quick experiments using my own voice seems to> > produce> > > > > > positive results. Here's an FFT of me making an sssss'> sound.> > > > > >> > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg> > > > > > <a href="http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/?> > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS.jpg" target="_blank"><img> > > > > >> > src=" "> > > > > > border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>> > > > > >> > > > > > Here's an FFT of the same recording except that I have> > removed> > > > the> > > > > > peak frequencies.> > > > > >> > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg> > > > > > <a href="http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/?> > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS_filtered.jpg" target="_blank"><img> > > > > >> > > >> >> src="http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS_filtered.jp> > > > > > g" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>> > > > > >> > > > > > I wonder if our ears are amplifying the offending> frequencies> > > > more> > > > > > than others? These FFT's show how a microphone intrepts> > them,> > > > but of> > > > > > course we may hear them differently. We would never know> > because> > > > > > that is all we have ever known. Maybe they are not> amplified> > by> > > > > > them, but are tickled by them? (see my previous post.)> > > > > >> > > > > > An FFT (fast fourier transform) is just an amplitude vs> > frequency> > > > > > plot of a sound.> > > > > >> > > > > > I haven't spent a lot to time honing in on the frequencies> > that> > > > are> > > > > > triggering, but my inital stab seems to be between 9kHz and> > 11kHz.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Holy cow!!! I just went back to the SSSS main site and there are new instruments for sale. One of which looks like it is exactly what I had envisioned! I need to overnight a pair asap. Hyperacusis Instruments--Anti-Hearing Aids After I opened the clinic in 1996, I noticed after a while a need for these instruments, and so I developed one with a major hearing aid manufacturer. The fact is that some people simply do not improve with treatment and still want to go about their lives, including going out to the bank, shopping, and more. These units are designed to allow only low frequency voice elements to pass through and control all high pitched and louder sounds above 70-75 dB. I have successfully fit many pairs of these units since their creation, and the response has been overwhelmingly positive. Many people continue to use them to attend noisy events or parties, and I am pleased to be able to offer a solution that is economic and effective. http://www.hyperacusis.org/wst_page8.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I'm trying some experiements to see if I can find a path > > > for > > > > > us to > > > > > > > explore. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've asked my exwife to send me some recordings of her > > > speaking > > > > > using > > > > > > > offending words and sounds. I will then take that > > recording > > > and > > > > > see > > > > > > > if there's a filter I can apply that will filter out the > > > > > frequencies > > > > > > > that are triggering. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just some quick experiments using my own voice seems to > > > produce > > > > > > > positive results. Here's an FFT of me making an sssss' > > sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > > > > > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > > > > > > > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg " > > > > > > > border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's an FFT of the same recording except that I have > > > removed > > > > > the > > > > > > > peak frequencies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > > > > > <a href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS_filtered.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS_filtered.jp > > > > > > > g " border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if our ears are amplifying the offending > > frequencies > > > > > more > > > > > > > than others? These FFT's show how a microphone intrepts > > > them, > > > > > but of > > > > > > > course we may hear them differently. We would never know > > > because > > > > > > > that is all we have ever known. Maybe they are not > > amplified > > > by > > > > > > > them, but are tickled by them? (see my previous post.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An FFT (fast fourier transform) is just an amplitude vs > > > frequency > > > > > > > plot of a sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't spent a lot to time honing in on the frequencies > > > that > > > > > are > > > > > > > triggering, but my inital stab seems to be between 9kHz and > > > 11kHz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 So a quick search on this group and I only came a cross a small snippet of information here on the anti hearing aids. Why were these not more popular or spken more about here? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I'm trying some experiements to see if I can find > a path > > > > for > > > > > > us to > > > > > > > > explore. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've asked my exwife to send me some recordings of her > > > > speaking > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > offending words and sounds. I will then take that > > > recording > > > > and > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > if there's a filter I can apply that will filter out > the > > > > > > frequencies > > > > > > > > that are triggering. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just some quick experiments using my own voice seems > to > > > > produce > > > > > > > > positive results. Here's an FFT of me making an sssss' > > > sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > > > > > > <a > href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS.jpg " target= " _blank " ><img > > > > > > > > > > > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg " > > > > > > > > border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's an FFT of the same recording except that I have > > > > removed > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > peak frequencies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS.jpg > > > > > > > > <a > href= " http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/? > > > > > > > > action=view & current=SSSS_filtered.jpg " > target= " _blank " ><img > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > src= " http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/xl_cheese/SSSS_filtered.jp > > > > > > > > g " border= " 0 " alt= " Photobucket " ></a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if our ears are amplifying the offending > > > frequencies > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > than others? These FFT's show how a microphone > intrepts > > > > them, > > > > > > but of > > > > > > > > course we may hear them differently. We would never > know > > > > because > > > > > > > > that is all we have ever known. Maybe they are not > > > amplified > > > > by > > > > > > > > them, but are tickled by them? (see my previous post.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An FFT (fast fourier transform) is just an amplitude > vs > > > > frequency > > > > > > > > plot of a sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't spent a lot to time honing in on the > frequencies > > > > that > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > triggering, but my inital stab seems to be between > 9kHz and > > > > 11kHz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 H--l, they don't even do that! = M=F. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Howe >No, they don't filter, just mask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 No surgeon would consent to potentially damaging a patient's ears, even with a contract. I should know. Mom keeps saying it when I mention I want an eardrum removed. = M-F. ----- Original Message ----- > I wonder if there's some sort of surgery that can remove those > frequencies from my ears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I wasn't suggesting making myself deaf. Just remove a band of frequencies. If it meant a more normal life I don't see why they wouldn't do that. I have found these and am getting fitted monday for some moulds. http://www.ids- healthcare.com/hospital_management/global/Westone_Laboratories/custom_ made_ear_plugs/97_0/g_supplier.html Style 47 seems to fit the bill, but I was told that style 42 also has the same frequency cutoff, but is less of a plug. It will allow normal pass through of the lower frequencies. I'm also in contact with someone that does research for this company and will try to work with her on something that may perhaps work better. For now I'm trying these. > > No surgeon would consent to potentially damaging a patient's ears, even with > a contract. > > I should know. Mom keeps saying it when I mention I want an eardrum removed. > > > = M-F. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > I wonder if there's some sort of surgery that can remove those > > frequencies from my ears? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 (waves arms) No, no! I wasn't suggesting you do that! ^0_0^ I just meant that removing frequencies can still be damaging, and no professional wants to be liable for that. = M-F. ----- Original Message ----- >I wasn't suggesting making myself deaf. Just remove a band of > frequencies. If it meant a more normal life I don't see why they > wouldn't do that. > > I have found these and am getting fitted monday for some moulds. > http://www.ids- > healthcare.com/hospital_management/global/Westone_Laboratories/custom_ > made_ear_plugs/97_0/g_supplier.html > > Style 47 seems to fit the bill, but I was told that style 42 also has > the same frequency cutoff, but is less of a plug. It will allow > normal pass through of the lower frequencies. > > I'm also in contact with someone that does research for this company > and will try to work with her on something that may perhaps work > better. For now I'm trying these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Good luck , please let us know what happens From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Multi-Facets Wolfu-chan Sent: Saturday, 22 November 2008 7:55 AM To: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Re: An experiment. (waves arms) No, no! I wasn't suggesting you do that! ^0_0^ I just meant that removing frequencies can still be damaging, and no professional wants to be liable for that. = M-F. ----- Original Message ----- >I wasn't suggesting making myself deaf. Just remove a band of > frequencies. If it meant a more normal life I don't see why they > wouldn't do that. > > I have found these and am getting fitted monday for some moulds. > http://www.ids- > healthcare.com/hospital_management/global/Westone_Laboratories/custom_ > made_ear_plugs/97_0/g_supplier.html > > Style 47 seems to fit the bill, but I was told that style 42 also has > the same frequency cutoff, but is less of a plug. It will allow > normal pass through of the lower frequencies. > > I'm also in contact with someone that does research for this company > and will try to work with her on something that may perhaps work > better. For now I'm trying these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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