Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 a I had noticed a difference in amoxacillin. I think that the generic prduct fails o distribute as succesfully throughout the body like the name brand did...There's also noticable differences with all the other antibiotic groups. Some reach the infection sites a lot more succesfully than others IMO... tony the intelligent aussie > > Is anyone seeing a decline in the effectiveness of Zithromax using the new > generic versions? Here is the news article from a year ago. I know this > article looks like Pfizer is just trying to hold onto its profit, but what > if the antibiotic is not as effective? - a Carnes > > http://www.pharmabioingredients.com/news/2006/02/08/pfizer_sues_teva,_ sandoz > _over_zithromax > > Breaking News From Pharma & Bio Ingredients > > > > Pfizer Sues Teva, Sandoz Over Zithromax > > > > Posted on 2006-02-08 22:11:00 > > > > Pfizer Inc. has filed a patent infringement suit against generic drug makers > Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. and Sandoz Inc. concerning generic > versions of the antibiotic Zithromax. > > Representatives from Sandoz, based in Princeton, N.J., and Teva, based in > Israel, couldn't immediately be reached for comment. > > In a press release Wednesday, Pfizer also said it filed a petition with the > U.S. Food and Drug Administration, claiming Teva's and Sandoz's azithromycin > product labels do not accurately describe the drug's active ingredients. > > According to Pfizer, the generics contain significant amounts of > azithromycin sesquihydrate, rather than the azithromycin monohydrate that > their labels state. > > Pfizer's Zithromax and generic azithromycin, launched by the company's > Greenstone subsidiary, contain azithromycin dihydrate, which is the product > approved in Pfizer's new drug application. > > Pfizer, based in New York, is asking the FDA to recall the drugs and review > the product approval applications filed by the two companies. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Glad to see you've been working on your self esteem. Did you hire a life coach or something? :-) penny dumbaussie2000 <dumbaussie2000@...> wrote: aI had noticed a difference in amoxacillin. I think that the generic prduct fails o distribute as succesfully throughout the body like the name brand did...There's also noticable differences with all the other antibiotic groups. Some reach the infection sites a lot more succesfully than others IMO...tony the intelligent aussie>> Is anyone seeing a decline in the effectiveness of Zithromax using the new> generic versions? Here is the news article from a year ago. I know this> article looks like Pfizer is just trying to hold onto its profit, but what> if the antibiotic is not as effective? - a Carnes> > http://www.pharmabioingredients.com/news/2006/02/08/pfizer_sues_teva,_sandoz> _over_zithromax> > Breaking News From Pharma & Bio Ingredients > > > > Pfizer Sues Teva, Sandoz Over Zithromax> > > > Posted on 2006-02-08 22:11:00> > > > Pfizer Inc. has filed a patent infringement suit against generic drug makers> Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. and Sandoz Inc. concerning generic> versions of the antibiotic Zithromax.> > Representatives from Sandoz, based in Princeton, N.J., and Teva, based in> Israel, couldn't immediately be reached for comment. > > In a press release Wednesday, Pfizer also said it filed a petition with the> U.S. Food and Drug Administration, claiming Teva's and Sandoz's azithromycin> product labels do not accurately describe the drug's active ingredients.> > According to Pfizer, the generics contain significant amounts of> azithromycin sesquihydrate, rather than the azithromycin monohydrate that> their labels state.> > Pfizer's Zithromax and generic azithromycin, launched by the company's> Greenstone subsidiary, contain azithromycin dihydrate, which is the product> approved in Pfizer's new drug application.> > Pfizer, based in New York, is asking the FDA to recall the drugs and review> the product approval applications filed by the two companies.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 No, No, no, no..I just started working again and can't be bothered arguing.BUT if someone comes in and throws pop corn idea's at these conditions, I do see red..I also strongly feel that some fools that allow there drugs to be generic, risk the rise and development of resistance (which is why we are here in the first place) if they don't follow thru to make sure the drugs work like there supposed to.. I actually compared generic versus known brand on many occasions the last with augmentin...I just wanted to see the zones of inhibition being identical.. > > > > Is anyone seeing a decline in the effectiveness of Zithromax using > the new > > generic versions? Here is the news article from a year ago. I know > this > > article looks like Pfizer is just trying to hold onto its profit, > but what > > if the antibiotic is not as effective? - a Carnes > > > > > http://www.pharmabioingredients.com/news/2006/02/08/pfizer_sues_teva,_ > sandoz > > _over_zithromax > > > > Breaking News From Pharma & Bio Ingredients > > > > > > > > Pfizer Sues Teva, Sandoz Over Zithromax > > > > > > > > Posted on 2006-02-08 22:11:00 > > > > > > > > Pfizer Inc. has filed a patent infringement suit against generic > drug makers > > Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. and Sandoz Inc. concerning > generic > > versions of the antibiotic Zithromax. > > > > Representatives from Sandoz, based in Princeton, N.J., and Teva, > based in > > Israel, couldn't immediately be reached for comment. > > > > In a press release Wednesday, Pfizer also said it filed a petition > with the > > U.S. Food and Drug Administration, claiming Teva's and Sandoz's > azithromycin > > product labels do not accurately describe the drug's active > ingredients. > > > > According to Pfizer, the generics contain significant amounts of > > azithromycin sesquihydrate, rather than the azithromycin > monohydrate that > > their labels state. > > > > Pfizer's Zithromax and generic azithromycin, launched by the > company's > > Greenstone subsidiary, contain azithromycin dihydrate, which is the > product > > approved in Pfizer's new drug application. > > > > Pfizer, based in New York, is asking the FDA to recall the drugs > and review > > the product approval applications filed by the two companies. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 The FDA in the USA, says brand and generic are equal. Period. --- dumbaussie2000 <dumbaussie2000@...> wrote: > No, No, no, no..I just started working again and > can't be bothered > arguing.BUT if someone comes in and throws pop corn > idea's at these > conditions, I do see red..I also strongly feel that > some fools that > allow there drugs to be generic, risk the rise and > development of > resistance (which is why we are here in the first > place) if they > don't follow thru to make sure the drugs work like > there supposed to.. > I actually compared generic versus known brand on > many occasions the > last with augmentin...I just wanted to see the zones > of inhibition > being identical.. > > > > > > > > > > > Is anyone seeing a decline in the effectiveness > of Zithromax > using > > the new > > > generic versions? Here is the news article from > a year ago. I > know > > this > > > article looks like Pfizer is just trying to hold > onto its profit, > > but what > > > if the antibiotic is not as effective? - a > Carnes > > > > > > > > > http://www.pharmabioingredients.com/news/2006/02/08/pfizer_sues_teva,_ > > sandoz > > > _over_zithromax > > > > > > Breaking News From Pharma & Bio Ingredients > > > > > > > > > > > > Pfizer Sues Teva, Sandoz Over Zithromax > > > > > > > > > > > > Posted on 2006-02-08 22:11:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Pfizer Inc. has filed a patent infringement suit > against generic > > drug makers > > > Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. and Sandoz > Inc. concerning > > generic > > > versions of the antibiotic Zithromax. > > > > > > Representatives from Sandoz, based in Princeton, > N.J., and Teva, > > based in > > > Israel, couldn't immediately be reached for > comment. > > > > > > In a press release Wednesday, Pfizer also said > it filed a > petition > > with the > > > U.S. Food and Drug Administration, claiming > Teva's and Sandoz's > > azithromycin > > > product labels do not accurately describe the > drug's active > > ingredients. > > > > > > According to Pfizer, the generics contain > significant amounts of > > > azithromycin sesquihydrate, rather than the > azithromycin > > monohydrate that > > > their labels state. > > > > > > Pfizer's Zithromax and generic azithromycin, > launched by the > > company's > > > Greenstone subsidiary, contain azithromycin > dihydrate, which is > the > > product > > > approved in Pfizer's new drug application. > > > > > > Pfizer, based in New York, is asking the FDA to > recall the drugs > > and review > > > the product approval applications filed by the > two companies. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Jim wrote: The FDA in the USA, says brand and generic are equal. Period. Jim, I assume you are being sarcastic. Trouble is, Pfizer wants to sell their generic on Zithromax, so their lawsuit may be pointless. I am hoping someone on this list who knows some chemistry will tell me the significance of Pfizer's claim. Tony, Sounds like you don't think generic is ever okay. a http://www.pharmabioingredients.com/news/2006/02/08/pfizer_sues_teva,_> > sandoz> > > _over_zithromax> > > > > > Breaking News From Pharma & Bio Ingredients > > > > > > > > > > > > Pfizer Sues Teva, Sandoz Over Zithromax> > > > > > > > > > > > Posted on 2006-02-08 22:11:00> > > > > > > > > > > > Pfizer Inc. has filed a patent infringement suit> against generic > > drug makers> > > Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. and Sandoz> Inc. concerning > > generic> > > versions of the antibiotic Zithromax.> > > > > > Representatives from Sandoz, based in Princeton,> N.J., and Teva, > > based in> > > Israel, couldn't immediately be reached for> comment. > > > > > > In a press release Wednesday, Pfizer also said> it filed a > petition > > with the> > > U.S. Food and Drug Administration, claiming> Teva's and Sandoz's > > azithromycin> > > product labels do not accurately describe the> drug's active > > ingredients.> > > > > > According to Pfizer, the generics contain> significant amounts of> > > azithromycin sesquihydrate, rather than the> azithromycin > > monohydrate that> > > their labels state.> > > > > > Pfizer's Zithromax and generic azithromycin,> launched by the > > company's> > > Greenstone subsidiary, contain azithromycin> dihydrate, which is > the > > product> > > approved in Pfizer's new drug application.> > > > > > Pfizer, based in New York, is asking the FDA to> recall the drugs > > and review> > > the product approval applications filed by the> two companies.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 I am not being sarcastic, but the majority of people in the US believe that brand is better than generic. like I have stated before, drug co.s use that to their advantage. That's why brands can be very expensive. --- a Carnes <pj7@...> wrote: > Jim wrote: > > The FDA in the USA, says brand and generic are > equal. > Period. > > > Jim, > I assume you are being sarcastic. Trouble is, Pfizer > wants to sell their > generic on Zithromax, so their lawsuit may be > pointless. I am hoping someone > on this list who knows some chemistry will tell me > the significance of > Pfizer's claim. > > Tony, > Sounds like you don't think generic is ever okay. > > a > > > <http://www.pharmabioingredients.com/news/2006/02/08/pfizer_sues_teva,_> > http://www.pharmabioingredients.com/news/2006/02/08/pfizer_sues_teva,_ > > > sandoz > > > > _over_zithromax > > > > > > > > Breaking News From Pharma & Bio Ingredients > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pfizer Sues Teva, Sandoz Over Zithromax > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Posted on 2006-02-08 22:11:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pfizer Inc. has filed a patent infringement > suit > > against generic > > > drug makers > > > > Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. and Sandoz > > Inc. concerning > > > generic > > > > versions of the antibiotic Zithromax. > > > > > > > > Representatives from Sandoz, based in > Princeton, > > N.J., and Teva, > > > based in > > > > Israel, couldn't immediately be reached for > > comment. > > > > > > > > In a press release Wednesday, Pfizer also said > > it filed a > > petition > > > with the > > > > U.S. Food and Drug Administration, claiming > > Teva's and Sandoz's > > > azithromycin > > > > product labels do not accurately describe the > > drug's active > > > ingredients. > > > > > > > > According to Pfizer, the generics contain > > significant amounts of > > > > azithromycin sesquihydrate, rather than the > > azithromycin > > > monohydrate that > > > > their labels state. > > > > > > > > Pfizer's Zithromax and generic azithromycin, > > launched by the > > > company's > > > > Greenstone subsidiary, contain azithromycin > > dihydrate, which is > > the > > > product > > > > approved in Pfizer's new drug application. > > > > > > > > Pfizer, based in New York, is asking the FDA > to > > recall the drugs > > > and review > > > > the product approval applications filed by the > > two companies. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 a I base alot of this on what I initially went thru with generic versus original..My first experience with this was amoxacillin- for me smith kline beecham amoxacillin got to the infection site better and just did a better job on a huge painfiull infection. The results for me were unanimous- as initially I was offered generics-which is quite common for pharmacists to do in australia..I also had access to my mums supply, so the two being used frequently and compared for relief constantly and the genuine item won the day after a couple of months of switching or just using what was left..Now the other test was a clearance of bacteria zone by the generic versus original which i did and didn't nbotice any difference in augmentin zones.. The only thing that I feel may be beneficial in the genuine item is the distribution thru the body IMO.. > > The FDA in the USA, says brand and generic are equal. > Period. > > > Jim, > I assume you are being sarcastic. Trouble is, Pfizer wants to sell their > generic on Zithromax, so their lawsuit may be pointless. I am hoping someone > on this list who knows some chemistry will tell me the significance of > Pfizer's claim. > > Tony, > Sounds like you don't think generic is ever okay. > > a > > <http://www.pharmabioingredients.com/news/2006/02/08/pfizer_sues_teva, _> > http://www.pharmabioingredients.com/news/2006/02/08/pfizer_sues_teva,_ > > > sandoz > > > > _over_zithromax > > > > > > > > Breaking News From Pharma & Bio Ingredients > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pfizer Sues Teva, Sandoz Over Zithromax > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Posted on 2006-02-08 22:11:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pfizer Inc. has filed a patent infringement suit > > against generic > > > drug makers > > > > Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. and Sandoz > > Inc. concerning > > > generic > > > > versions of the antibiotic Zithromax. > > > > > > > > Representatives from Sandoz, based in Princeton, > > N.J., and Teva, > > > based in > > > > Israel, couldn't immediately be reached for > > comment. > > > > > > > > In a press release Wednesday, Pfizer also said > > it filed a > > petition > > > with the > > > > U.S. Food and Drug Administration, claiming > > Teva's and Sandoz's > > > azithromycin > > > > product labels do not accurately describe the > > drug's active > > > ingredients. > > > > > > > > According to Pfizer, the generics contain > > significant amounts of > > > > azithromycin sesquihydrate, rather than the > > azithromycin > > > monohydrate that > > > > their labels state. > > > > > > > > Pfizer's Zithromax and generic azithromycin, > > launched by the > > > company's > > > > Greenstone subsidiary, contain azithromycin > > dihydrate, which is > > the > > > product > > > > approved in Pfizer's new drug application. > > > > > > > > Pfizer, based in New York, is asking the FDA to > > recall the drugs > > > and review > > > > the product approval applications filed by the > > two companies. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Jim wrote: I am not being sarcastic, but the majority of peoplein the US believe that brand is better than generic. like I have stated before, drug co.s use that to theiradvantage. That's why brands can be very expensive. Hi Jim and Tony, I understand that Pfizer may well be suing just to get more people to take their generic. But it looks like there is a real difference in this case between the generic from Teva and the generic from Green___. I forget the name. Most of us who have been around a bit know that minocycline had a generic that was no good. Dr. Garth Nicolson recognized this, although now I think there is a generic that is the same as the original which is no longer produced. I was able to get a refill of Zithromax yesterday which is Pfizer's generic. I will keep you folks posted on whether it seems to work. I have been gradually getting very sick for over a year now, and that fits the timeframe that I took less Zithromax and the Z I did take was generic and seemed to have NO effect at all. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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