Re: Systemic Enzymes/ Honey

[Guest guest]

It's available in the USA? Cool! Where do you get it - locally or on

line? Is it the kind with pollen and propolis too? I'm going to google

to see if I can get the same brand here.

I brought back a big jar of Manuka MGO 550 (super strong and $$) with

me from Oz and just finished it not long ago. I didn't see any NZ

manuka in Whole Foods, so bought american " Really Raw " instead. It

seems to be feeding yeast, where as the maunka didn't appear to - but

it could be other factors too. I briefly took my son off Feast Without

Yeast diet around the same time and that opened the door. So I need to

keep on it now.

I had no idea that manuka was an actual biofilm treatment - I was just

using it for the antibacterial properties. So that's another thing I

was doing to treat biofilm for a year without knowing it!

>

> For penetrating biofilm and treating hypercoagulability, I used to use

> Lumbrokinase (Allergy Research Group), and ViraStop and MucoStop

> (Enzymedica).

>

> Very recently I started using New Zealand Manuka raw honey to try to

> penetrate bacterial biofilm. The honey is antibacterial, and has been

> proven to heal infections such as MRSA and Staph. Manuka honey

prevents the

> bacteria from forming biofilms and proceeds to draw water out of the

> bacterial cells, making it impossible for the bacteria to survive.

I don't

> know how well, if at all, the honey penetrate biofilms formed by

other types

> of bacteria such as Bartonella. We'll see. But, you want to avoid

using

> this, if you are sensitive to phenol.

>

> Limin

>

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 17:56

> To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

> Subject: Systemic Enzymes

>

> > What brands of systemic enzymes have any of you used? I just

read the

> > posting that made with the reference to a chapter in a book. I

> > took a look at that and found that the brand refered to in the

book was

> > called Wobenzym N. Has anyone use that?

> >

> > I also did a Google search using the words " systemic enzymes " and

> > found this site: www.staytuned.ws/systemic_enzymes.html. There are

> > some other systemic enzymes ingredients listed on that site that are

> > the different from those in the Wobenzym N formula. One of these is

> > Serrapeptase. We have that single ingredient in our household. My

> > husband is using it with the idea of help reduce plaque buildup in his

> > veins.

> >

> > I would be interested to know what if any brands of systemic enzymes

> > are being or have been used and if you would recommend them.

> >

> > Jan

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yea - Just found I can get it in the USA. Tis is the one I was using

up till a month or so ago:

http://www.grabcart.com/product/healthbeauty/healthmonitors/911healthshopmanukah\

oney25025/Active-UMF-25-MGO-550-Manuka-Honey-Pure-by-Manuka-Health-New-Zealand-L\

td-250-g

Now I know it's biofilm buster I'll get us all back on it. Thanks for

the tip!

>

> For penetrating biofilm and treating hypercoagulability, I used to use

> Lumbrokinase (Allergy Research Group), and ViraStop and MucoStop

> (Enzymedica).

>

> Very recently I started using New Zealand Manuka raw honey to try to

> penetrate bacterial biofilm. The honey is antibacterial, and has been

> proven to heal infections such as MRSA and Staph. Manuka honey

prevents the

> bacteria from forming biofilms and proceeds to draw water out of the

> bacterial cells, making it impossible for the bacteria to survive.

I don't

> know how well, if at all, the honey penetrate biofilms formed by

other types

> of bacteria such as Bartonella. We'll see. But, you want to avoid

using

> this, if you are sensitive to phenol.

>

> Limin

>

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 17:56

> To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

> Subject: Systemic Enzymes

>

> > What brands of systemic enzymes have any of you used? I just

read the

> > posting that made with the reference to a chapter in a book. I

> > took a look at that and found that the brand refered to in the

book was

> > called Wobenzym N. Has anyone use that?

> >

> > I also did a Google search using the words " systemic enzymes " and

> > found this site: www.staytuned.ws/systemic_enzymes.html. There are

> > some other systemic enzymes ingredients listed on that site that are

> > the different from those in the Wobenzym N formula. One of these is

> > Serrapeptase. We have that single ingredient in our household. My

> > husband is using it with the idea of help reduce plaque buildup in his

> > veins.

> >

> > I would be interested to know what if any brands of systemic enzymes

> > are being or have been used and if you would recommend them.

> >

> > Jan

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Limin, can you advise if you add in the honey with enzymes?

I recalled, year's ago, when we went to a local doctor, for IV

chelating issues, she recommend to take honey in helping.

Also, there are 2 things he recommend, a little peas and corns,

which not sure for what purpose..(never go back again since then)

Tks,

Corinna

>

> For penetrating biofilm and treating hypercoagulability, I used to

use

> Lumbrokinase (Allergy Research Group), and ViraStop and MucoStop

> (Enzymedica).

>

> Very recently I started using New Zealand Manuka raw honey to try

to

> penetrate bacterial biofilm. The honey is antibacterial, and has

been

> proven to heal infections such as MRSA and Staph. Manuka honey

prevents the

> bacteria from forming biofilms and proceeds to draw water out of

the

> bacterial cells, making it impossible for the bacteria to

survive. I don't

> know how well, if at all, the honey penetrate biofilms formed by

other types

> of bacteria such as Bartonella. We'll see. But, you want to

avoid using

> this, if you are sensitive to phenol.

>

> Limin

>

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 17:56

> To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

> Subject: Systemic Enzymes

>

> > What brands of systemic enzymes have any of you used? I just

read the

> > posting that made with the reference to a chapter in a

book. I

> > took a look at that and found that the brand refered to in the

book was

> > called Wobenzym N. Has anyone use that?

> >

> > I also did a Google search using the words " systemic enzymes "

and

> > found this site: www.staytuned.ws/systemic_enzymes.html.

There are

> > some other systemic enzymes ingredients listed on that site that

are

> > the different from those in the Wobenzym N formula. One of

these is

> > Serrapeptase. We have that single ingredient in our household.

My

> > husband is using it with the idea of help reduce plaque buildup

in his

> > veins.

> >

> > I would be interested to know what if any brands of systemic

enzymes

> > are being or have been used and if you would recommend them.

> >

> > Jan

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much Limin, got it!!

Will have follow up appointment with Dr.U coming weeks, will got the

answer and posted again.

All the best,

Corinna

> >> >>

> >> >> For penetrating biofilm and treating hypercoagulability, I

used

> > to

> >> > use

> >> >> Lumbrokinase (Allergy Research Group), and ViraStop and

MucoStop

> >> >> (Enzymedica).

> >> >>

> >> >> Very recently I started using New Zealand Manuka raw honey to

> > try

> >> > to

> >> >> penetrate bacterial biofilm. The honey is antibacterial, and

> > has

> >> > been

> >> >> proven to heal infections such as MRSA and Staph. Manuka

honey

> >> > prevents the

> >> >> bacteria from forming biofilms and proceeds to draw water

out of

> >> > the

> >> >> bacterial cells, making it impossible for the bacteria to

> >> > survive. I don't

> >> >> know how well, if at all, the honey penetrate biofilms

formed by

> >> > other types

> >> >> of bacteria such as Bartonella. We'll see. But, you want

to

> >> > avoid using

> >> >> this, if you are sensitive to phenol.

> >> >>

> >> >> Limin

> >> >>

> >> >> --------------------------------------------------

> >> >> From: " topekajan " <topekajan@>

> >> >> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 17:56

> >> >> To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

> >> >> Subject: Systemic

Enzymes

> >> >>

> >> >> > What brands of systemic enzymes have any of you used? I

just

> >> > read the

> >> >> > posting that made with the reference to a chapter in

a

> >> > book. I

> >> >> > took a look at that and found that the brand refered to in

the

> >> > book was

> >> >> > called Wobenzym N. Has anyone use that?

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I also did a Google search using the words " systemic

enzymes "

> >> > and

> >> >> > found this site: www.staytuned.ws/systemic_enzymes.html.

> >> > There are

> >> >> > some other systemic enzymes ingredients listed on that site

> > that

> >> > are

> >> >> > the different from those in the Wobenzym N formula. One of

> >> > these is

> >> >> > Serrapeptase. We have that single ingredient in our

> > household.

> >> > My

> >> >> > husband is using it with the idea of help reduce plaque

> > buildup

> >> > in his

> >> >> > veins.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I would be interested to know what if any brands of

systemic

> >> > enzymes

> >> >> > are being or have been used and if you would recommend

them.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Jan

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > ------------------------------------

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

dear Limin and all, here is the information:

" dr. Usman really did not give a recipe, she did say 1/2 tsp apple

cider vinegar to 4 oz. water either mixed with 1/8 tsp baking soda

or enough manuka honey to make it taste like lemonaid. this

alkanalizes the gut, so it needs to be given between meals so

digestion is not disrupted "

tks,

Corinna

> >> >>

> >> >> For penetrating biofilm and treating hypercoagulability, I

used

> > to

> >> > use

> >> >> Lumbrokinase (Allergy Research Group), and ViraStop and

MucoStop

> >> >> (Enzymedica).

> >> >>

> >> >> Very recently I started using New Zealand Manuka raw honey to

> > try

> >> > to

> >> >> penetrate bacterial biofilm. The honey is antibacterial, and

> > has

> >> > been

> >> >> proven to heal infections such as MRSA and Staph. Manuka

honey

> >> > prevents the

> >> >> bacteria from forming biofilms and proceeds to draw water

out of

> >> > the

> >> >> bacterial cells, making it impossible for the bacteria to

> >> > survive. I don't

> >> >> know how well, if at all, the honey penetrate biofilms

formed by

> >> > other types

> >> >> of bacteria such as Bartonella. We'll see. But, you want

to

> >> > avoid using

> >> >> this, if you are sensitive to phenol.

> >> >>

> >> >> Limin

> >> >>

> >> >> --------------------------------------------------

> >> >> From: " topekajan " <topekajan@>

> >> >> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 17:56

> >> >> To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

> >> >> Subject: Systemic

Enzymes

> >> >>

> >> >> > What brands of systemic enzymes have any of you used? I

just

> >> > read the

> >> >> > posting that made with the reference to a chapter in

a

> >> > book. I

> >> >> > took a look at that and found that the brand refered to in

the

> >> > book was

> >> >> > called Wobenzym N. Has anyone use that?

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I also did a Google search using the words " systemic

enzymes "

> >> > and

> >> >> > found this site: www.staytuned.ws/systemic_enzymes.html.

> >> > There are

> >> >> > some other systemic enzymes ingredients listed on that site

> > that

> >> > are

> >> >> > the different from those in the Wobenzym N formula. One of

> >> > these is

> >> >> > Serrapeptase. We have that single ingredient in our

> > household.

> >> > My

> >> >> > husband is using it with the idea of help reduce plaque

> > buildup

> >> > in his

> >> >> > veins.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I would be interested to know what if any brands of

systemic

> >> > enzymes

> >> >> > are being or have been used and if you would recommend

them.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Jan

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > ------------------------------------

> >> >> >

> >> >> >