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Tony and Penny, I dono if you'll like this or not, but apparantly its

about gum disease (which I think many/most attribute to biofilm

bacteria) as a risk factor for other diseases. Cardiovascular disease,

apparantly... (but really this shouldn't be taken as gospel unless you

look up the papers). I am really hyper right now and could only read

part of it:

http://tinyurl.com/2dtmy9

Kind of reminds me of a paper Wheldon posted in which a bunch of

screwey organisms were found in atheromas (the vascular wall plaques

which break off and lodge in small vessels to cause heart attacks and

strokes). Perhaps if infection is actually important in atherosclerosis

(rather than secondary and benign), it could be a more polymicrobial

disease and " commensals " could be prominant participants, of course

with noninfectious factors possibly just as important. In that case, of

course, we'd have to reclass them as semi-commensals, like candida.

Source is raven from cpnhelp.

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