Guest guest Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 > I know testing of new chemicals is pretty lame in Canada and I > suspect it's hard to keep up with in the US too. There's so much > economic pressure to just let things through the system. It's not unheard of for chemicals to trash your self-tolerance. First, there was that thing with the contaminated L-tryptophan, which is why it got outlawed for a while. That caused myalgia with eosinophilia. I'm not sure how it worked. There was a thing in Spain ~1980 where this contaminated sesame oil gave a few thousand people this horrible apparantly autoimmune disease (lots of inflammation and autoantibodies; no other explanation), often nonresolving. The thing is, why worry much about lots of chemicals that tracely contaminate the environment, unless it's clear that some disease is increasing unaccountably. People say CFS is " exploding " or something, but I notice they never mention any evidence. That's not surprising given the lack of objective diagnosis. There is evidence for a maybe 2x increase in MS over the last 50-60 years. That could be due to artifact or to a bunch of other things, so it doesn't worry me too much. Then there's autism. I don't know about it but a lot of people do think the increased dx is due to increased vigilance or evolved definitions or something. Certainly some people disagree. Crohn's disease in Olmsted County (where a lot of long-term epidemiology has been done by Mayo) shows an increase around 4x since WWII. But the confidence is pretty low, so the real change could easily be quite a bit less, and there is the possibility of artifacts. That guy Weinstock (the whipworm guy) claimed in some interview that Crohn's was virtually absent circa 1900 or so. The excellent history of TB by Dormandy (MD, PhD) states that Crohn's was basically unstudyable until TB was cured circa 1950, because intestinal TB was so common, so similar to Crohn's, and like all forms of TB could occasionally lack easily demonstrable M tuberculosis or M bovis Acid Fast Bodies. For now I'm gonna believe Dormandy. Altogether, I don't feel like I've seen strong evidence for anything more than an incremental, fairly equivocal, and possibly altogether artifactual increase in immune disease incidence. But again, I haven't really studied the autism issue, or gone out of my way to look at this sort of thing in detail in any disease. This is just a pro tem opinion based on what I've come across incidentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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