Re: Latest head symptoms

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Motrin is as much an

anti-inflammatory as an analgesic. I believe it's a COX inhibitor of

some kind, but works differently than Celebrex et. al. I suspect the

good results you're seeing is more because of the anti-inflammatory

properties.

Motrin is pretty effective -- for me, much more so than Asprin or in

particular, Tylenol, which seems like a sugar pill. YMMV. Until I

underwent successful abx therapy for rheumatoid arthritis, I

practically lived on the stuff, and my wife used to be able to use it

for general inflammation / pain as well. We both had scrips for the

800 mg version (name brand from Pfizer) that's not sold OTC. That is

also buffered better than the OTC stuff.

However, it is hard on the stomach. I personally had no trouble with

it but my wife can no longer take it and we hear of a lot of other

people who develop chronic GI problems on it. So ALWAYS take it with

meals. And be wary of taking it along with anything else that's hard

on the stomach, like Biaxin for example.

If I were in your shoes I would do the same as you are, but as you

obviously recognize, you're better off to get to the ROOT of the

problem and fix it, if there is in fact a practical fix.

I am happy for you that you've found some relief though, however long

it lasts. So often, there doesn't really seem to be any relief from

these chronic illness symptoms.

--Bob

pjeanneus wrote:

Okay, gang, it's getting really weird, only this time in my favor.

I

had a business trip to Reno, so just packed up and went for two days.

In case I could see the neuro-opthamologist I packed up the medical

stuff to carry with and noted from the Amen clinic that ibuprofen

enhances memory and reduces inflammation the the brain probably by

increasing circulation. So I threw the Motrin pills in my suitcase.

The next day I have to go to literary review of the novel I am

working on and the Diamox is not working so hot. So I pop a Motrin.

Within 20 minutes I am feeling pretty good. I can think. My head

doesn't feel like a balloon is blown up inside of it. What did I just

do, or is this some miracle? Probably Rich V.'s prayers being

answered - NO KIDDING.

Of course I realise that 20 minutes ago I took a Motrin. So the rest

of that day and the next I keep taking one Motrin every 6 hours and

no headache and no brain confusion. However, overnight when the stuff

wears off I wake up with the headache. My pupil is still enlarged and

I still have the slightly blurred vision.

I may just become a Motrin addict. It works a lot better than the

Diamox with no side effects. It also doesn't seem to be a cure, but

at least it may get me through until they figure out what is going

on. I don't relish taking Diamox or getting shunts in my brain, since

so many patients don't seem to do any better with this treatment.

Maybe I can take Motrin for life.

a Carnes

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a, kinda thought you already knew that being on this list. Don't you remember that Barb took very high doses of ibuprofen for quite a long time? (I would too, if my stomach could handle it.) There've been quite a few posts about the benefits of this family of antiinflammatory drugs for our illness. You could probably get some relief with the vasoconstrictor pseudophedrine as well, if you can handle the stimulant side effects. These two used to be my staples against migraines, before the side effects became too much for me. penny pjeanneus <pj7@...> wrote: Okay, gang, it's getting really weird, only this time in my favor. I had a business trip to Reno, so just packed up and went for two days. In case I could see the neuro-opthamologist I packed up the medical stuff to carry with and noted from the Amen clinic that ibuprofen enhances memory and reduces inflammation the the brain probably by increasing circulation. So I threw the Motrin pills in my suitcase.The next day I have to go to literary review of the novel I am working on and the Diamox is not working so hot. So I pop a Motrin. Within 20 minutes I am feeling pretty good. I can think. My head doesn't feel like a balloon is blown up inside of it. What did I just do, or is

this some miracle? Probably Rich V.'s prayers being answered - NO KIDDING.Of course I realise that 20 minutes ago I took a Motrin. So the rest of that day and the next I keep taking one Motrin every 6 hours and no headache and no brain confusion. However, overnight when the stuff wears off I wake up with the headache. My pupil is still enlarged and I still have the slightly blurred vision.I may just become a Motrin addict. It works a lot better than the Diamox with no side effects. It also doesn't seem to be a cure, but at least it may get me through until they figure out what is going on. I don't relish taking Diamox or getting shunts in my brain, since so many patients don't seem to do any better with this treatment. Maybe I can take Motrin for life.a Carnes

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You're right Bob, Tylenol is not an antiinflammatory. I also have bad stomach problems with Ibuprofen. Hence my recent search for an NSAID minus the stomach irritation. I came up with NEEM last week. I'm still not sure about it, especially as it is described as a vasodilator rather than vasoconstrictor, and I generally need vasoconstrictors for headaches. True anti-inflammatory drugs can offer a lot of relief to us and actually have a lot of health benefits not just symptom relief (see many posts on the subject). Vasoconstrictors may relieve a lot of symptoms as well for those of us dealing with intercranial hypertension (ICH) type symptoms. penny Bob Grommes <bob@...> wrote: Motrin is as much an anti-inflammatory as an analgesic. I believe it's a COX inhibitor of some kind, but works differently than Celebrex et. al. I suspect the good results you're seeing is more because of the anti-inflammatory properties.Motrin is pretty effective -- for me, much more so than Asprin or in particular, Tylenol, which seems like a sugar pill. YMMV. Until I underwent successful abx therapy for rheumatoid arthritis, I practically lived on the stuff, and my wife used to be able to use it for general inflammation / pain as well. We both had scrips for the 800 mg version (name

brand from Pfizer) that's not sold OTC. That is also buffered better than the OTC stuff.However, it is hard on the stomach. I personally had no trouble with it but my wife can no longer take it and we hear of a lot of other people who develop chronic GI problems on it. So ALWAYS take it with meals. And be wary of taking it along with anything else that's hard on the stomach, like Biaxin for example.If I were in your shoes I would do the same as you are, but as you obviously recognize, you're better off to get to the ROOT of the problem and fix it, if there is in fact a practical fix.I am happy for you that you've found some relief though, however long it lasts. So often, there doesn't really seem to be any relief from these chronic illness symptoms.--Bobpjeanneus wrote: Okay, gang, it's

getting really weird, only this time in my favor. I had a business trip to Reno, so just packed up and went for two days. In case I could see the neuro-opthamologist I packed up the medical stuff to carry with and noted from the Amen clinic that ibuprofen enhances memory and reduces inflammation the the brain probably by increasing circulation. So I threw the Motrin pills in my suitcase.The next day I have to go to literary review of the novel I am working on and the Diamox is not working so hot. So I pop a Motrin. Within 20 minutes I am feeling pretty good. I can think. My head doesn't feel like a balloon is blown up inside of it. What did I just do, or is this some miracle? Probably Rich V.'s prayers being answered - NO KIDDING.Of course I realise that 20 minutes ago I took a Motrin. So the rest of that day and the next I keep taking one Motrin every 6 hours and no headache and no brain confusion. However,

overnight when the stuff wears off I wake up with the headache. My pupil is still enlarged and I still have the slightly blurred vision.I may just become a Motrin addict. It works a lot better than the Diamox with no side effects. It also doesn't seem to be a cure, but at least it may get me through until they figure out what is going on. I don't relish taking Diamox or getting shunts in my brain, since so many patients don't seem to do any better with this treatment. Maybe I can take Motrin for life.a Carnes

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Hi Penny and Bob,

Bob, fortunately I must be more like you. I don't have much trouble

with my stomach. I do always take ibuprofen with food though. I also

took Motrin prescription for years when I just had arthritis

symptoms - years before anyone knew I had Lyme disease. (My excellent

doctor back then in the mid 80s actually tested me for Lyme a couple

of times thinking that is what I had, but, of course, the test was

never an accurate one.)

Penny, I may seem like I am overlooking things I should already know,

but I now can epathize with the patients who seem so spaced out. You

tell them things over and over, and they don't get it. They can't

because their brain is not functioning.

Just for a couple of examples, I tried aspirin for this headache

awhile back. Why didn't I try ibuprofen? I don't know. I did at least

remember that tylenol never worked for nuthin and you can overdose.

I also went to the drug store looking for pseudophedrine and never

could find a product anymore. I THINK that is because they now keep

it behind the counter. In any case, I was so spaced out with this

dang headache I couldn't even remember what to ask the pharmacist.

The one time I did ask for the product he looked at me like I must be

on something and handed me something else.

You know the old saying " When you've got your health... " Well, I

would revise that to " When you've got your brain an' ain't got no

pain... "

a

>

> a, kinda thought you already knew that being on this list.

>

> Don't you remember that Barb took very high doses of ibuprofen

for quite a long time? (I would too, if my stomach could handle it.)

There've been quite a few posts about the benefits of this family of

antiinflammatory drugs for our illness.

>

> You could probably get some relief with the vasoconstrictor

pseudophedrine as well, if you can handle the stimulant side effects.

These two used to be my staples against migraines, before the side

effects became too much for me.

>

> penny

>

>

>

> pjeanneus <pj7@...> wrote:

> Okay, gang, it's getting really weird, only this time in

my favor. I

> had a business trip to Reno, so just packed up and went for two

days.

> In case I could see the neuro-opthamologist I packed up the medical

> stuff to carry with and noted from the Amen clinic that ibuprofen

> enhances memory and reduces inflammation the the brain probably by

> increasing circulation. So I threw the Motrin pills in my suitcase.

>

> The next day I have to go to literary review of the novel I am

> working on and the Diamox is not working so hot. So I pop a Motrin.

> Within 20 minutes I am feeling pretty good. I can think. My head

> doesn't feel like a balloon is blown up inside of it. What did I

just

> do, or is this some miracle? Probably Rich V.'s prayers being

> answered - NO KIDDING.

>

> Of course I realise that 20 minutes ago I took a Motrin. So the

rest

> of that day and the next I keep taking one Motrin every 6 hours and

> no headache and no brain confusion. However, overnight when the

stuff

> wears off I wake up with the headache. My pupil is still enlarged

and

> I still have the slightly blurred vision.

>

> I may just become a Motrin addict. It works a lot better than the

> Diamox with no side effects. It also doesn't seem to be a cure, but

> at least it may get me through until they figure out what is going

> on. I don't relish taking Diamox or getting shunts in my brain,

since

> so many patients don't seem to do any better with this treatment.

> Maybe I can take Motrin for life.

>

> a Carnes

>

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a

We have emphasized the anti inflammatories here, and Barb's early

posts on her long term, high usage of ibuprofen, was a huge eye

opener, there was also Ken's constant referral to aspirirn use.

My pick of the day in your own case, may be the RENO CLIMATE. Last

time I was in Reno it was under a foor of snow. I actually had a

flight cancelled the night before due to Reno being snowed under.

I would look at the benefits of cold/ice on your head region.You

basically need to adapt a penguin style dip into the cold water to

calm your inflammation.

Also I'm actually not impressed that you felt the harry high pants

prayer was the catalyst for your infammatory problem improvement.We

have been discussing INFLAMMATORY PROBLEMS for over a year on here

and I never felt that supplementation was on target or the right

idea.You may also benefit from communication with Ken who recently

posted an interesting article on head injury and these diseases.

To sum up, you've just shown how important it is that we don't loose

our focus on the anti-inflammatory tricks of the trade that show

promise in our disease...

> > Okay, gang, it's getting really weird, only this time

in

> my favor. I

> > had a business trip to Reno, so just packed up and went for two

> days.

> > In case I could see the neuro-opthamologist I packed up the

medical

> > stuff to carry with and noted from the Amen clinic that ibuprofen

> > enhances memory and reduces inflammation the the brain probably

by

> > increasing circulation. So I threw the Motrin pills in my

suitcase.

> >

> > The next day I have to go to literary review of the novel I am

> > working on and the Diamox is not working so hot. So I pop a

Motrin.

> > Within 20 minutes I am feeling pretty good. I can think. My head

> > doesn't feel like a balloon is blown up inside of it. What did I

> just

> > do, or is this some miracle? Probably Rich V.'s prayers being

> > answered - NO KIDDING.

> >

> > Of course I realise that 20 minutes ago I took a Motrin. So the

> rest

> > of that day and the next I keep taking one Motrin every 6 hours

and

> > no headache and no brain confusion. However, overnight when the

> stuff

> > wears off I wake up with the headache. My pupil is still enlarged

> and

> > I still have the slightly blurred vision.

> >

> > I may just become a Motrin addict. It works a lot better than the

> > Diamox with no side effects. It also doesn't seem to be a cure,

but

> > at least it may get me through until they figure out what is

going

> > on. I don't relish taking Diamox or getting shunts in my brain,

> since

> > so many patients don't seem to do any better with this treatment.

> > Maybe I can take Motrin for life.

> >

> > a Carnes

> >

>

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I wondered how the altitude at Reno affected me. We drove over to

Lake Tahoe which is up around 9,000 feet. But I live at 4,000 in Las

Vegas on the high side of the city, and we occasionally go up to a

mountain outside of town that is at 8,000. Two weeks ago for our

anniversary I was out a Zion National Park and then in a ski area

above there - 11,000 feet. Neither the cold or altitude did anything

for the headache.

However, sad to say, the headache is just as bad today as ever. I

read the message board re intracranial hypertension and, not really

surprising, they say that people who respond to Motrin get rebound

headaches while on it - same problem with caffeine.

I took another Diamox tonight and may have to alternate Diamox and

Motrin. We shall see.

a

>

> a

> We have emphasized the anti inflammatories here, and Barb's early

> posts on her long term, high usage of ibuprofen, was a huge eye

> opener, there was also Ken's constant referral to aspirirn use.

> My pick of the day in your own case, may be the RENO CLIMATE. Last

> time I was in Reno it was under a foor of snow. I actually had a

> flight cancelled the night before due to Reno being snowed under.

> I would look at the benefits of cold/ice on your head region.You

> basically need to adapt a penguin style dip into the cold water to

> calm your inflammation.

> Also I'm actually not impressed that you felt the harry high pants

> prayer was the catalyst for your infammatory problem improvement.We

> have been discussing INFLAMMATORY PROBLEMS for over a year on here

> and I never felt that supplementation was on target or the right

> idea.You may also benefit from communication with Ken who recently

> posted an interesting article on head injury and these diseases.

> To sum up, you've just shown how important it is that we don't

loose

> our focus on the anti-inflammatory tricks of the trade that show

> promise in our disease...

>