Re: An uncommon cause of fibro

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Couldn't agree more. In fact, I think if docs would become a little more rigorous in their diagnostic techniques, they'd find another cause behind every case of so-called "CFS" & "FMS" and many other "autoimmune illnesses". I think going to a doc and telling them up front that you've been dx'd with CFS or FMS is a sure cause for getting zero help. They won't even bother to try to figure out what's wrong. Just throw some symptom relief at you. That's why you've got to go and keep your lips sealed regarding any wastebasket diagnoses you may have gotten in the past and make them focus on how much discomfort a particular symptom is giving you now. Another thing is to probably just pick one, or two of your worst symptoms at most. I've heard docs say that what a person really needs, if he/she presents with 3 or more symptoms, is a psychiatrist. :-( pennyphagelod <mpalmer@...> wrote: Years ago when I was investigating sleep apnea, I came across testimony from a women who was diagnosed with apnea after some delay. Her description was nightmarish, and included muscle pain. I'm not sure if she speculated, or I speculated, that when apnea is especially severe the hypoxia can lead to the production of lactic acid, making your muscles sore. I don't know if that is the mechanism, but here is a recent case report of

"fibromyalgia" completely resolving upon treatment for apnea:http://tinyurl.com/29vkpjI haven't read the full text to find out what these authors think is the mechanism.I suspect that plenty of fibro sufferers may develop apnea secondary to inflammation, but I doubt that the apnea is usually the cause of the fibro. But it should be ruled out, just the same; and treated either way. The main point I take away from this is that while it is important for fibromyalgia and CFS to gain legitimacy, it is also important not to allow these diagnoses to become a waste bin for lazy doctors who view these diagnoses as conveniently untreatable. She suffered 10 years with her "fibromyalgia" before getting a correct diagnosis.Matt

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Matt

I've never been diagnoserd sleep apnea; YET HAVE A MACHINE and use it

on occasion. Once you end up all clagged up with coagulation and the

stuff sliding doown your throat distributiung to all corners of your

body you need to up regulate yourself like a turbocharger does to a

car's engione performance to get yourself to a similatr level as the

rest of the population, so that your body can take care of it's daily

maintenance and repairs.It's a way of trying to take care of what

rich calls a methylation block IMO.But we still need to adopt eating

styles, antimicrobials and unfortunately cardiovascular repairs..

tony

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> Years ago when I was investigating sleep apnea, I came across

> testimony from a women who was diagnosed with apnea after some

delay.

> Her description was nightmarish, and included muscle pain. I'm not

> sure if she speculated, or I speculated, that when apnea is

especially

> severe the hypoxia can lead to the production of lactic acid,

making

> your muscles sore. I don't know if that is the mechanism, but here

is

> a recent case report of " fibromyalgia " completely resolving upon

> treatment for apnea:

>

> http://tinyurl.com/29vkpj

>

> I haven't read the full text to find out what these authors think

is

> the mechanism.

>

> I suspect that plenty of fibro sufferers may develop apnea

secondary

> to inflammation, but I doubt that the apnea is usually the cause of

> the fibro. But it should be ruled out, just the same; and treated

> either way. The main point I take away from this is that while it

is

> important for fibromyalgia and CFS to gain legitimacy, it is also

> important not to allow these diagnoses to become a waste bin for

lazy

> doctors who view these diagnoses as conveniently untreatable. She

> suffered 10 years with her " fibromyalgia " before getting a correct

> diagnosis.

>

> Matt

>

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Very smart post penny. You really have to keep attacking from

different angles. I recall one day early in my disease process of

visiting 3 doctors, (with our free health care) and giving them each

a symptom.I just don't think people should ever stop coming up with

angles of approach- I would even like to see some GRUNT from the odd

person on this list..

tony

> Years ago when I was investigating sleep apnea, I came

across

> testimony from a women who was diagnosed with apnea after some

delay.

> Her description was nightmarish, and included muscle pain. I'm not

> sure if she speculated, or I speculated, that when apnea is

especially

> severe the hypoxia can lead to the production of lactic acid,

making

> your muscles sore. I don't know if that is the mechanism, but here

is

> a recent case report of " fibromyalgia " completely resolving upon

> treatment for apnea:

>

> http://tinyurl.com/29vkpj

>

> I haven't read the full text to find out what these authors think

is

> the mechanism.

>

> I suspect that plenty of fibro sufferers may develop apnea

secondary

> to inflammation, but I doubt that the apnea is usually the cause of

> the fibro. But it should be ruled out, just the same; and treated

> either way. The main point I take away from this is that while it

is

> important for fibromyalgia and CFS to gain legitimacy, it is also

> important not to allow these diagnoses to become a waste bin for

lazy

> doctors who view these diagnoses as conveniently untreatable. She

> suffered 10 years with her " fibromyalgia " before getting a correct

> diagnosis.

>

> Matt

>