Re: ReA microscopy.... *&$%(^&T( ..... also sarc

[Guest guest]

I finally got this paper at the National Library. I was really hoping

to be able to determine whether the yersinia-immunostaining material

was potentially cellular (ultramicrocells around 200 nm), rather than

the yersinial debris the authors described in the text. In fact, you

can't see which it is at all. The IEM is very low-res.

This is a huge downer. We know that yersinial ReA is probably caused

by persisting yersinia if it is caused by any persisting bacterium,

yet without high-res IEM we can't see what's up.

The case is comparable with sarc. Y Eishi's PCR and radio-ISH work

(not yet independently replicated to my knwoledge) quantitated

propionibacterial genomes in the lesions and found numbers consistent

with pathogenesis. As I recall, he also found the propi genomes to be

more numerous within the granulomas than without, though I did not

scrutinize his work on that point. But, propis are probably common in

the normal lung very low density, and it's possible that sarc could

cause their (dead) genomes to pile up for some strange reason. Past EM

investigations of sarc turned up nothing. Living propi ultramicrocells

could probably have been overlooked, but if they are there they need

to be lit up with high-res IEM.

So horrible is my pent-up yearning for high-res IEM... when I get to

heaven I'm immediately going to get a completely huge bowl of popcorn

and sit down to watch " The Complete History of Earth at Atomic

Resolution, " now conveniently re-issued on 10^83496344456 DVDs.

>

> I just got Clinical and Experimental Rheumatology 12: 255-259, 1994.

>

> This is an electron microscopy study of yersinia antigens in yersinia

> ReA. Its supposed to show " diffuse antigens " ... I want (really bad) to

> see if these are potentially small CWD forms.

>

> I filed for this by xerox service and made an annotation that I needed

> the pictures to be really well-xeroxed... well they could not possibly

> be any worse-xeroxed. If anyone can access this paper it would be

> really interesting. I probably cant get a legible copy for a while.

>

> I looked at some optical microscopy of the same sort of stuff. Not

> enough resolution to know whats going on, of course.

>

[Guest guest]

Lol! You are a weird one, . :-) penny <usenethod@...> wrote: I finally got this paper at the National Library. I was really hopingto be able to determine whether the yersinia-immunostaining materialwas potentially cellular (ultramicrocells around 200 nm), rather thanthe yersinial debris the authors described in the text. In fact, youcan't see which it is at all. The IEM is very low-res.This is a huge downer. We know that

yersinial ReA is probably causedby persisting yersinia if it is caused by any persisting bacterium,yet without high-res IEM we can't see what's up.The case is comparable with sarc. Y Eishi's PCR and radio-ISH work(not yet independently replicated to my knwoledge) quantitatedpropionibacterial genomes in the lesions and found numbers consistentwith pathogenesis. As I recall, he also found the propi genomes to bemore numerous within the granulomas than without, though I did notscrutinize his work on that point. But, propis are probably common inthe normal lung very low density, and it's possible that sarc couldcause their (dead) genomes to pile up for some strange reason. Past EMinvestigations of sarc turned up nothing. Living propi ultramicrocellscould probably have been overlooked, but if they are there they needto be lit up with high-res IEM.So horrible is my pent-up yearning for high-res IEM... when I get

toheaven I'm immediately going to get a completely huge bowl of popcornand sit down to watch "The Complete History of Earth at AtomicResolution," now conveniently re-issued on 10^83496344456 DVDs. >> I just got Clinical and Experimental Rheumatology 12: 255-259, 1994.> > This is an electron microscopy study of yersinia antigens in yersinia > ReA. Its supposed to show "diffuse antigens"... I want (really bad) to > see if these are potentially small CWD forms. > > I filed for this by xerox service and made an annotation that I needed > the pictures to be really well-xeroxed... well they could not possibly > be any worse-xeroxed. If anyone can access this paper it would be > really interesting. I

probably cant get a legible copy for a while.> > I looked at some optical microscopy of the same sort of stuff. Not > enough resolution to know whats going on, of course.>

[Guest guest]

There is a room in hell where they make you watch all those DVDs too.

Just depends on the person ;-)

--Bob

wrote:

So horrible is my pent-up yearning for high-res IEM... when I get to

heaven I'm immediately going to get a completely huge bowl of popcorn

and sit down to watch "The Complete History of Earth at Atomic

Resolution," now conveniently re-issued on 10^83496344456 DVDs.

[Guest guest]

Lol! Sorry, but that's funny too. More motivation for me not to go to hell. though, I'm not so sure. He might think it's worth it if it's no longer playing in Heaven. :-) pennyBob Grommes <bob@...> wrote: There is a room in hell where they make you watch all those DVDs too. Just depends on the person ;-)--Bob wrote: So

horrible is my pent-up yearning for high-res IEM... when I get toheaven I'm immediately going to get a completely huge bowl of popcornand sit down to watch "The Complete History of Earth at AtomicResolution," now conveniently re-issued on 10^83496344456 DVDs.