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Hi, Here are my answers -

I am wondering a couple things about everyone. I thought it could beinteresting to see everyone's replies.When did you first notice your 4s symptoms? about 10 yo

Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess? i would have to guessWhat sounds bother you? gum chewing/snapping, crunching sounds, whistling, eating noises in general

Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others? used to be mostly my parents, but now I'm not around them so much, now it is my husband (the poor guy) and my children sometimes if I'm in a bad mood or tired.What is your "inside" reaction I want to punch/hurt the source of the noise.How do you actually react? I try to leave the situation, use a radio or turn the TV up, cover a ear.What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been"annoyed" by their noises? My husband tells me to ignore it, my family makes fun of me, my kids just try to avoid me when I'm storming.How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound? I'd have to say moderate, but it can become sever depending on the situation that I am

in.

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Here are my answers!!

>

> When did you first notice your 4s symptoms? 10-12

>

> Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess? I'm

guessing I had it at 10 but I am positively sure I had it at 12.

>

> What sounds bother you? Eating noises whether by a person with

their mouth open or shut... doesn't matter I can still hear it!

Crunching ice, chips, carrots, popcorn, etc... Gum popping, dogs

licking paws, dogs(some) barking in distance, my husbands bird

squawking and bluejays squawking, sniffing, throat clearing, chewing

fingernails. I do have some visual triggers such as people swinging

their legs or tapping their feet, or seeing my dogs lick their paws.

>

> Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?

Started with my father, now it's my husband. Generally strangers

bother me on different degree's but it's eating noises that strangers

bother me most on.

>

>What is your " inside " reaction? My stomach sort of sinks. I feel

like my blood starts to boil, I start to feel really irritated and

anxious.

>

> How do you actually react? I leave if possible. If I can't, I say

things like " stop it " and sometimes I'll yell. If I'm in a public

situation I internalize things and think of things I'd like to do

(like knock someones head off) :)

>

> What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been

> " annoyed " by their noises? My husband thinks I'm crazy and that

I " Let " things bother me. I've been told to " just deal with it " .

>

> How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound? I

would say moderate on a daily basis but some days are severe.

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Hello All,

I was thinking last night, and after reading the post below,

although we are all talking about this and making progress imo, we are

making a lot of connections here too but I am worried that we are not recording

these down to see the logical links. If I am incorrect please let me know, but

how would everyone feel about a database of information being collected so that

we can cross reference information we are getting over the long term and see if

there are any connections???

I had this idea that the database could contain information such

as some of the questions below, and also ranging to ancestery, sex, weight diet

and even moving into things like eye color and other personality traits.

There is of course worries about privacy etc etc and I am not

sure how comfortable everyone is with this, or if it has already been done, but

I think we could make great progress if the information were stored in a place

that would allow cross referencing rather then only through emails? Your

thoughts please???

In response to below:

I noticed my 4s in a movie cinema when I was about 13-14

I am sure.

Crunching, gulping smacking lips knives and forks on plates,

scraping, coughing to some degree, soft breathing, gum smacking, movement out

of the corner of my eye, dogs licking paws dogs drinking, sniffing, muffeled

voices in another room, keyboar typing (on bad days) sound of water being

poured into a glass. Slurping, squishy food, ummm I think thats it at the

moment.

Depends on my mood at the time, there is aparticular type of

person and everyone here knows the type that I am talking about that seems to

have all of the above in one nice little package!

Anger aggression, disgust! Hartred, have to leave, complete shut

down in side, scared and sad, feeling lost and hopeless, must make them stop! Ust

want to be left alone in silence and sometimes wishing I were deaf, wish it was

over and always looking for a way out, wishing I wasn’t such a bother on

my family and others around me, wishing I could control.

Others have apologised, done the noise more, confused,

frustrated that I am angry, angry, moving away not understanding and

understanding.

Depends on my mood and how much sleep I get but it ranges from

Moderate to severe.

By the way, how many people here would rate them selves a control

freak ~not because~ of the 4S but naturally.???

Kind Regards

Rich

From: Soundsensitivity

[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of andrealeigh4

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:15 AM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I am wondering a couple things about everyone.

I thought it could be

interesting to see everyone's replies.

When did you first notice your 4s symptoms?

Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess?

What sounds bother you?

Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?

What is your " inside " reaction?

How do you actually react?

What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been

" annoyed " by their noises?

How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound?

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Wow Rich...my answers would have to be identical to yours...except for I don't know where I first noticed my condition. GREAT idea about the database...just wondering how we would be able to compile all the information. Maybe there's some sort of "online survey" that we can create...I think they must have had me in mind when they created the term "control freak" :o)andraFrom: McKenna

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:30:42 PMSubject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Hello All, I was thinking last night, and after reading the post below,

although we are all talking about this and making progress imo, we are

making a lot of connections here too but I am worried that we are not recording

these down to see the logical links. If I am incorrect please let me know, but

how would everyone feel about a database of information being collected so that

we can cross reference information we are getting over the long term and see if

there are any connections??? I had this idea that the database could contain information such

as some of the questions below, and also ranging to ancestery, sex, weight diet

and even moving into things like eye color and other personality traits. There is of course worries about privacy etc etc and I am not

sure how comfortable everyone is with this, or if it has already been done, but

I think we could make great progress if the information were stored in a place

that would allow cross referencing rather then only through emails? Your

thoughts please??? In response to below: I noticed my 4s in a movie cinema when I was about 13-14 I am sure. Crunching, gulping smacking lips knives and forks on plates,

scraping, coughing to some degree, soft breathing, gum smacking, movement out

of the corner of my eye, dogs licking paws dogs drinking, sniffing, muffeled

voices in another room, keyboar typing (on bad days) sound of water being

poured into a glass. Slurping, squishy food, ummm I think thats it at the

moment. Depends on my mood at the time, there is aparticular type of

person and everyone here knows the type that I am talking about that seems to

have all of the above in one nice little package! Anger aggression, disgust! Hartred, have to leave, complete shut

down in side, scared and sad, feeling lost and hopeless, must make them stop! Ust

want to be left alone in silence and sometimes wishing I were deaf, wish it was

over and always looking for a way out, wishing I wasn¢t such a bother on

my family and others around me, wishing I could control. Others have apologised, done the noise more, confused,

frustrated that I am angry, angry, moving away not understanding and

understanding. Depends on my mood and how much sleep I get but it ranges from

Moderate to severe. By the way, how many people here would rate them selves a control

freak ~not because~ of the 4S but naturally.??? Kind Regards Rich

From: Soundsensitivity

[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of andrealeigh4

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:15 AM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I am wondering a couple things about everyone.

I thought it could be

interesting to see everyone's replies.

When did you first notice your 4s symptoms?

Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess?

What sounds bother you?

Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?

What is your "inside" reaction?

How do you actually react?

What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been

"annoyed" by their noises?

How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound?

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Hi Rich,

You are absolutely right, I was thinking the same thing..... Unless someone else has already started to take note I would be more than happy to track back and create a data base with all the nuances and specifics about 4S that you have all been sharing.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:30:42 AMSubject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Hello All,

I was thinking last night, and after reading the post below, although we are all talking about this and making progress imo, we are making a lot of connections here too but I am worried that we are not recording these down to see the logical links. If I am incorrect please let me know, but how would everyone feel about a database of information being collected so that we can cross reference information we are getting over the long term and see if there are any connections? ??

I had this idea that the database could contain information such as some of the questions below, and also ranging to ancestery, sex, weight diet and even moving into things like eye color and other personality traits.

There is of course worries about privacy etc etc and I am not sure how comfortable everyone is with this, or if it has already been done, but I think we could make great progress if the information were stored in a place that would allow cross referencing rather then only through emails? Your thoughts please???

In response to below:

I noticed my 4s in a movie cinema when I was about 13-14

I am sure.

Crunching, gulping smacking lips knives and forks on plates, scraping, coughing to some degree, soft breathing, gum smacking, movement out of the corner of my eye, dogs licking paws dogs drinking, sniffing, muffeled voices in another room, keyboar typing (on bad days) sound of water being poured into a glass. Slurping, squishy food, ummm I think thats it at the moment.

Depends on my mood at the time, there is aparticular type of person and everyone here knows the type that I am talking about that seems to have all of the above in one nice little package!

Anger aggression, disgust! Hartred, have to leave, complete shut down in side, scared and sad, feeling lost and hopeless, must make them stop! Ust want to be left alone in silence and sometimes wishing I were deaf, wish it was over and always looking for a way out, wishing I wasn¢t such a bother on my family and others around me, wishing I could control.

Others have apologised, done the noise more, confused, frustrated that I am angry, angry, moving away not understanding and understanding.

Depends on my mood and how much sleep I get but it ranges from Moderate to severe.

By the way, how many people here would rate them selves a control freak ~not because~ of the 4S but naturally.?? ?

Kind Regards

Rich

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of andrealeigh4Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:15 AMTo: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I am wondering a couple things about everyone. I thought it could beinteresting to see everyone's replies.When did you first notice your 4s symptoms?Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess?What sounds bother you?Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?What is your "inside" reaction?How do you actually react?What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been"annoyed" by their noises?How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound?

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Hi a,

As would I , but a fresh survey might make tracking this

information a lot easier, im not sure I have never done one of these before.... 

Thoughts?

From: Soundsensitivity

[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of a Pereira

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:32 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Hi Rich,

You are absolutely right, I was thinking the same

thing..... Unless someone else has already started to take note I would

be more than happy to track back and create a data base with all the nuances

and specifics about 4S that you have all been sharing.

To: Soundsensitivity

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:30:42 AM

Subject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Hello All,

I was thinking last night, and after

reading the post below, although we are all talking about this and making

progress imo, we are making a lot of connections here too but I am worried that

we are not recording these down to see the logical links. If I am incorrect

please let me know, but how would everyone feel about a database of information

being collected so that we can cross reference information we are getting over

the long term and see if there are any connections? ??

I had this idea that the database could

contain information such as some of the questions below, and also ranging to

ancestery, sex, weight diet and even moving into things like eye color and

other personality traits.

There is of course worries about privacy

etc etc and I am not sure how comfortable everyone is with this, or if it has

already been done, but I think we could make great progress if the information

were stored in a place that would allow cross referencing rather then only

through emails? Your thoughts please???

In response to below:

I noticed my 4s in a movie cinema when I

was about 13-14

I am sure.

Crunching, gulping smacking lips knives

and forks on plates, scraping, coughing to some degree, soft breathing, gum

smacking, movement out of the corner of my eye, dogs licking paws dogs

drinking, sniffing, muffeled voices in another room, keyboar typing (on bad

days) sound of water being poured into a glass. Slurping, squishy food, ummm I

think thats it at the moment.

Depends on my mood at the time, there is

aparticular type of person and everyone here knows the type that I am talking

about that seems to have all of the above in one nice little package!

Anger aggression, disgust! Hartred, have

to leave, complete shut down in side, scared and sad, feeling lost and

hopeless, must make them stop! Ust want to be left alone in silence and

sometimes wishing I were deaf, wish it was over and always looking for a way

out, wishing I wasn¢t such a bother on my family and others around me, wishing

I could control.

Others have apologised, done the noise

more, confused, frustrated that I am angry, angry, moving away not

understanding and understanding.

Depends on my mood and how much sleep I

get but it ranges from Moderate to severe.

By the way, how many people here would

rate them selves a control freak ~not because~ of the 4S but naturally.?? ?

Kind Regards

Rich

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com]

On Behalf Of andrealeigh4

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:15 AM

To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I am wondering a couple things about everyone. I thought it could be

interesting to see everyone's replies.

When did you first notice your 4s symptoms?

Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess?

What sounds bother you?

Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?

What is your " inside " reaction?

How do you actually react?

What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been

" annoyed " by their noises?

How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound?

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That survey is inconclusive, since the same answer won't be accepted in any column.

= M-F.

----- Original Message -----

From: McKenna

>otherwise I know that Marsha created a survey similar some weeks ago, Maybe it was used by this website??

>http://www.surveymonkey.com/

>Anyway, I know that Dr is doing a lot of work on this, as always, but two heads or in this case 759 heads are better then J

> (glad I can spell my own name.... it has been one of these days J )

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Ah teach me to read ahead before posting.

Hmmm in a rather bad state at the moment, I have retreated to my

bedroom as almost all sounds are getting to me. I have noticed that when I

enter these sates, my speech slurs somewhat,  I feel slow and generally cant

think. Does anyone else get this???

I have set up a brainwave entertainment track designed to make

me wide awake and uplift my mood, in fact it should make me very aware of

everything, Im trying to rip myself out of this state.

Information as follows:

Session length 1 Hr

Ramp from 14.2 Mhz to 55mhz over 15 minutes, remaining at 55 mhz

for the duration of the track no ramp down.

Entertainment amplitude phase 246.5 Sine waveform

Intensity 63

Filtered from Trance music.

Information above for my own research and if anyone else has any

suggestions, the ramp is quick and is likely to give me a headache.

On a side note i’m getting thoroughly annoyed with this

email to Oprah, Im 54 characters over!!!!

From: Soundsensitivity

[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of a Pereira

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:37 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

andra,

Great idea about creating the survey. Maybe you can

create a draft of the survey and send it to the group? Then everyone can add

questions that they think are important....then once the final is approved by

everyone it can be individualy completed and stored.

To: Soundsensitivity

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:41:15 AM

Subject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Wow

Rich...my answers would have to be identical to yours...except for I don't know

where I first noticed my condition.

GREAT idea about the database...just wondering how we would be able to compile

all the information. Maybe there's some sort of " online survey "

that we can create...

I think they must have had me in mind when they created the term " control

freak " :o)

andra

From: McKenna <r.mckennawestnet (DOT) com.au>

To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:30:42 PM

Subject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Hello All,

I was thinking last night, and after

reading the post below, although we are all talking about this and making

progress imo, we are making a lot of connections here too but I am worried that

we are not recording these down to see the logical links. If I am incorrect

please let me know, but how would everyone feel about a database of information

being collected so that we can cross reference information we are getting over

the long term and see if there are any connections? ??

I had this idea that the database could

contain information such as some of the questions below, and also ranging to

ancestery, sex, weight diet and even moving into things like eye color and

other personality traits.

There is of course worries about privacy

etc etc and I am not sure how comfortable everyone is with this, or if it has

already been done, but I think we could make great progress if the information

were stored in a place that would allow cross referencing rather then only

through emails? Your thoughts please???

In response to below:

I noticed my 4s in a movie cinema when I

was about 13-14

I am sure.

Crunching, gulping smacking lips knives

and forks on plates, scraping, coughing to some degree, soft breathing, gum

smacking, movement out of the corner of my eye, dogs licking paws dogs

drinking, sniffing, muffeled voices in another room, keyboar typing (on bad

days) sound of water being poured into a glass. Slurping, squishy food, ummm I

think thats it at the moment.

Depends on my mood at the time, there is

aparticular type of person and everyone here knows the type that I am talking

about that seems to have all of the above in one nice little package!

Anger aggression, disgust! Hartred, have

to leave, complete shut down in side, scared and sad, feeling lost and

hopeless, must make them stop! Ust want to be left alone in silence and

sometimes wishing I were deaf, wish it was over and always looking for a way

out, wishing I wasn¢t such a bother on my family and others around me, wishing

I could control.

Others have apologised, done the noise

more, confused, frustrated that I am angry, angry, moving away not

understanding and understanding.

Depends on my mood and how much sleep I

get but it ranges from Moderate to severe.

By the way, how many people here would

rate them selves a control freak ~not because~ of the 4S but naturally.?? ?

Kind Regards

Rich

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com]

On Behalf Of andrealeigh4

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:15 AM

To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I am wondering a couple things about everyone. I thought it could be

interesting to see everyone's replies.

When did you first notice your 4s symptoms?

Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess?

What sounds bother you?

Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?

What is your " inside " reaction?

How do you actually react?

What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been

" annoyed " by their noises?

How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound?

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I recall, It does appear that the example survey on the website

below allowed multiple entries in the same column..... I hope

From: Soundsensitivity

[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Multi-Facets

Wolfu-chan

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 6:58 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

That survey

is inconclusive, since the same answer won't be accepted in any column.

= M-F.

-----

Original Message -----

From: McKenna

>otherwise

I know that Marsha created a survey similar some weeks ago, Maybe it

was used by this website??

>http://www.surveymonkey.com/

>Anyway, I know that Dr is

doing a lot of work on this, as always, but two heads or in this case 759 heads

are better then J

> (glad I can spell my own

name.... it has been one of these days J )

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I took a look at this site and, in theory, it seems straighforward and user friendly. I don't mind creating a sample survey and sending it to the group for everyone's critique and suggestions. Rich (or anyone else), if you are good with computer applications and would like to take on the sample survey instead please let me know. As I mentioned in my earlier emails, I do not suffer from 4S, my sister andra does. I have joined to learn more about the disorder and help search for solutions/treatments in any way that I can. Any thoughts? Suggestions?

a

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:42:59 AMSubject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

This is great a...I actually just went in to see how we can set up a survey on the surveymonkey link that Rich sent and it seems fairly easy and straight forward. Just open an account (easy and free) and you can start making your own survey. You can choose from different types of multiple choice answers and so forth. Why don't you have a look and let us know what you think.We can put questions on there like the ones that Rich stated....having to do with lifestyle, health, nutrition/diet, symptoms, phobias, family history, sex, weight, physical and personality characteristics and so forth.Let me know if you need any help!andra

From: a Pereira <susana.pereira73@ yahoo.com>To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:32:11 PMSubject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Hi Rich,

You are absolutely right, I was thinking the same thing..... Unless someone else has already started to take note I would be more than happy to track back and create a data base with all the nuances and specifics about 4S that you have all been sharing.

From: McKenna <r.mckennawestnet (DOT) com.au>To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:30:42 AMSubject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Hello All,

I was thinking last night, and after reading the post below, although we are all talking about this and making progress imo, we are making a lot of connections here too but I am worried that we are not recording these down to see the logical links. If I am incorrect please let me know, but how would everyone feel about a database of information being collected so that we can cross reference information we are getting over the long term and see if there are any connections? ??

I had this idea that the database could contain information such as some of the questions below, and also ranging to ancestery, sex, weight diet and even moving into things like eye color and other personality traits.

There is of course worries about privacy etc etc and I am not sure how comfortable everyone is with this, or if it has already been done, but I think we could make great progress if the information were stored in a place that would allow cross referencing rather then only through emails? Your thoughts please???

In response to below:

I noticed my 4s in a movie cinema when I was about 13-14

I am sure.

Crunching, gulping smacking lips knives and forks on plates, scraping, coughing to some degree, soft breathing, gum smacking, movement out of the corner of my eye, dogs licking paws dogs drinking, sniffing, muffeled voices in another room, keyboar typing (on bad days) sound of water being poured into a glass. Slurping, squishy food, ummm I think thats it at the moment.

Depends on my mood at the time, there is aparticular type of person and everyone here knows the type that I am talking about that seems to have all of the above in one nice little package!

Anger aggression, disgust! Hartred, have to leave, complete shut down in side, scared and sad, feeling lost and hopeless, must make them stop! Ust want to be left alone in silence and sometimes wishing I were deaf, wish it was over and always looking for a way out, wishing I wasn¢t such a bother on my family and others around me, wishing I could control.

Others have apologised, done the noise more, confused, frustrated that I am angry, angry, moving away not understanding and understanding.

Depends on my mood and how much sleep I get but it ranges from Moderate to severe.

By the way, how many people here would rate them selves a control freak ~not because~ of the 4S but naturally.?? ?

Kind Regards

Rich

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of andrealeigh4Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:15 AMTo: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I am wondering a couple things about everyone. I thought it could beinteresting to see everyone's replies.When did you first notice your 4s symptoms?Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess?What sounds bother you?Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?What is your "inside" reaction?How do you actually react?What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been"annoyed" by their noises?How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound?

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I don’t believe it, I don’t know if it was a placebo,

if i wasn’t as bad as I thought I was, if it was a multitude of other

factors or if it was the brainwave track, but.... I just managed to sit through

an entire dinner meal, with scrapping slurping, banging from knives and forks

and motor mouths, a lot of multi conversation talking and loud gulping, normally

my dodge zone in 1 minute!.

It wasn’t easy, and the noises were still...uncomfortable,

but that felt more a learned response, I actually did not feel the need to run

away and my anger was certainly down! I don’t know if I should be very

happy or very confused.

My head is rather sore, and I am rather irritable but at the

same time somewhat calm, not like my normal stress ball after a family dinner....

I will need quite a lot more testing to see if it was the high

level beta track that has helped, and if it is.... maybe this is a key to

something...maybe... I really hope it is because that means we might be able to

adapt something... I don’t know if I should be letting myself get my

hopes up but... I want to this time. I want to hope.

I have also sent a letter to Oprah, got it down to less then

2000 characters as it wouldn’t seem to take 2000, here it is:

Dear Oprah

Im a 22 year old male who suffers from a condition called Soft

Sound Sensitivity Syndrome or 4S. It is the collapsed tolerance to certain

sounds in particular crunching gulping lip smacking soft breathing & many

other sounds. When I hear these noises I feel an uncontrollable disgust &

aggression towards the person making them & often I am forced to leave to

escape. If I stay feelings of despair isolation & inability to cope overwhelm

me. It hurts me to feel this way to the people I care about most, most when

they are doing nothing wrong & are victims to my outburst or disappearances

almost nightly at family dinners, worse still is my sadness from not being able

to hold my partner as we fall asleep as the sound of her breathing is like a

hurricane of anxiety in my mind. It hurts me more to read stories of parents

with 4S who are afraid to hear their own children eat or cry as this is a

trigger sound for them. I cant imagine the pain that it would cause for a

parent to feel so aggressive towards a child they love so dearly, without any

ability to control these feelings, without any hope of a cure.

An online group dedicated to people with this condition are

desperately trying to contact you as 4S has yet to be formally diagnosed &

has received little attention from the medical community. 4S deteriorates over

time & is crippling to the majority of peoples lives, forcing them away

from social events, friends, family & eventually society as a whole.

We beg for your support in bringing awareness of this condition

to the media in hopes that others with 4S understand theyare not alone &

research is instigated for a cure. I know that you probably receive thousands

of emails a day asking for help, but I know in my heart that if you bring

awareness of 4S to the world, you will give hope to thousands if not millions

of people who are living with this condition, hope, that one day there will be

a cure & one day we will be able to live a normal life.

With Hope

From: Soundsensitivity

[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of McKenna

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 6:59 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Ah teach me to read ahead before posting.

Hmmm in a rather bad state at the

moment, I have retreated to my bedroom as almost all sounds are getting to me.

I have noticed that when I enter these sates, my speech slurs somewhat, I

feel slow and generally cant think. Does anyone else get this???

I have set up a brainwave entertainment

track designed to make me wide awake and uplift my mood, in fact it should make

me very aware of everything, Im trying to rip myself out of this state.

Information as follows:

Session length 1 Hr

Ramp from 14.2 Mhz to 55mhz over 15

minutes, remaining at 55 mhz for the duration of the track no ramp down.

Entertainment amplitude phase 246.5 Sine

waveform

Intensity 63

Filtered from Trance music.

Information above for my own research

and if anyone else has any suggestions, the ramp is quick and is likely to give

me a headache.

On a side note i’m getting

thoroughly annoyed with this email to Oprah, Im 54 characters over!!!!

From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ]

On Behalf Of a Pereira

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:37 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

andra,

Great

idea about creating the survey. Maybe you can create a draft of the

survey and send it to the group? Then everyone can add questions that they

think are important....then once the final is approved by everyone it can be

individualy completed and stored.

From:

andra Ruiz

To: Soundsensitivity

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:41:15 AM

Subject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Wow Rich...my answers would

have to be identical to yours...except for I don't know where I first noticed

my condition.

GREAT idea about the database...just wondering how we would be able to compile

all the information. Maybe there's some sort of " online survey "

that we can create...

I think they must have had me in mind when they created the term " control

freak " :o)

andra

From:

McKenna <r.mckennawestnet (DOT) com.au>

To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:30:42 PM

Subject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Hello All,

I was thinking last night, and after

reading the post below, although we are all talking about this and making

progress imo, we are making a lot of connections here too but I am worried that

we are not recording these down to see the logical links. If I am incorrect

please let me know, but how would everyone feel about a database of information

being collected so that we can cross reference information we are getting over

the long term and see if there are any connections? ??

I had this idea that the database could

contain information such as some of the questions below, and also ranging to

ancestery, sex, weight diet and even moving into things like eye color and

other personality traits.

There is of course worries about privacy

etc etc and I am not sure how comfortable everyone is with this, or if it has

already been done, but I think we could make great progress if the information

were stored in a place that would allow cross referencing rather then only

through emails? Your thoughts please???

In response to below:

I noticed my 4s in a movie cinema when I

was about 13-14

I am sure.

Crunching, gulping smacking lips knives

and forks on plates, scraping, coughing to some degree, soft breathing, gum

smacking, movement out of the corner of my eye, dogs licking paws dogs

drinking, sniffing, muffeled voices in another room, keyboar typing (on bad

days) sound of water being poured into a glass. Slurping, squishy food, ummm I

think thats it at the moment.

Depends on my mood at the time, there is

aparticular type of person and everyone here knows the type that I am talking

about that seems to have all of the above in one nice little package!

Anger aggression, disgust! Hartred, have

to leave, complete shut down in side, scared and sad, feeling lost and

hopeless, must make them stop! Ust want to be left alone in silence and

sometimes wishing I were deaf, wish it was over and always looking for a way

out, wishing I wasn¢t such a bother on my family and others around me, wishing

I could control.

Others have apologised, done the noise

more, confused, frustrated that I am angry, angry, moving away not

understanding and understanding.

Depends on my mood and how much sleep I

get but it ranges from Moderate to severe.

By the way, how many people here would

rate them selves a control freak ~not because~ of the 4S but naturally.?? ?

Kind Regards

Rich

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com]

On Behalf Of andrealeigh4

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:15 AM

To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I am wondering a couple things about everyone. I thought it could be

interesting to see everyone's replies.

When did you first notice your 4s symptoms?

Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess?

What sounds bother you?

Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?

What is your " inside " reaction?

How do you actually react?

What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been

" annoyed " by their noises?

How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound?

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, this is a GREAT email!!! You have amazing communication skills and were able to touch on the key issues that would make a non 4Ser want to know more. Thanks from all of us to everyone that has sent in their personal email to Oprah.

a

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:36:50 AMSubject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I don¢t believe it, I don¢t know if it was a placebo, if i wasn¢t as bad as I thought I was, if it was a multitude of other factors or if it was the brainwave track, but.... I just managed to sit through an entire dinner meal, with scrapping slurping, banging from knives and forks and motor mouths, a lot of multi conversation talking and loud gulping, normally my dodge zone in 1 minute!.

It wasn¢t easy, and the noises were still...uncomfortab le, but that felt more a learned response, I actually did not feel the need to run away and my anger was certainly down! I don¢t know if I should be very happy or very confused.

My head is rather sore, and I am rather irritable but at the same time somewhat calm, not like my normal stress ball after a family dinner....

I will need quite a lot more testing to see if it was the high level beta track that has helped, and if it is.... maybe this is a key to something... maybe... I really hope it is because that means we might be able to adapt something... I don¢t know if I should be letting myself get my hopes up but... I want to this time. I want to hope.

I have also sent a letter to Oprah, got it down to less then 2000 characters as it wouldn¢t seem to take 2000, here it is:

Dear Oprah

Im a 22 year old male who suffers from a condition called Soft Sound Sensitivity Syndrome or 4S. It is the collapsed tolerance to certain sounds in particular crunching gulping lip smacking soft breathing & many other sounds. When I hear these noises I feel an uncontrollable disgust & aggression towards the person making them & often I am forced to leave to escape. If I stay feelings of despair isolation & inability to cope overwhelm me. It hurts me to feel this way to the people I care about most, most when they are doing nothing wrong & are victims to my outburst or disappearances almost nightly at family dinners, worse still is my sadness from not being able to hold my partner as we fall asleep as the sound of her breathing is like a hurricane of anxiety in my mind. It hurts me more to read stories of parents with 4S who are afraid to hear their own children eat or

cry as this is a trigger sound for them. I cant imagine the pain that it would cause for a parent to feel so aggressive towards a child they love so dearly, without any ability to control these feelings, without any hope of a cure.

An online group dedicated to people with this condition are desperately trying to contact you as 4S has yet to be formally diagnosed & has received little attention from the medical community. 4S deteriorates over time & is crippling to the majority of peoples lives, forcing them away from social events, friends, family & eventually society as a whole.

We beg for your support in bringing awareness of this condition to the media in hopes that others with 4S understand theyare not alone & research is instigated for a cure. I know that you probably receive thousands of emails a day asking for help, but I know in my heart that if you bring awareness of 4S to the world, you will give hope to thousands if not millions of people who are living with this condition, hope, that one day there will be a cure & one day we will be able to live a normal life.

With Hope

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of McKennaSent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 6:59 PMTo: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSubject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Ah teach me to read ahead before posting.

Hmmm in a rather bad state at the moment, I have retreated to my bedroom as almost all sounds are getting to me. I have noticed that when I enter these sates, my speech slurs somewhat, I feel slow and generally cant think. Does anyone else get this???

I have set up a brainwave entertainment track designed to make me wide awake and uplift my mood, in fact it should make me very aware of everything, Im trying to rip myself out of this state.

Information as follows:

Session length 1 Hr

Ramp from 14.2 Mhz to 55mhz over 15 minutes, remaining at 55 mhz for the duration of the track no ramp down.

Entertainment amplitude phase 246.5 Sine waveform

Intensity 63

Filtered from Trance music.

Information above for my own research and if anyone else has any suggestions, the ramp is quick and is likely to give me a headache.

On a side note i¢m getting thoroughly annoyed with this email to Oprah, Im 54 characters over!!!!

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of a PereiraSent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:37 PMTo: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

andra,

Great idea about creating the survey. Maybe you can create a draft of the survey and send it to the group? Then everyone can add questions that they think are important... .then once the final is approved by everyone it can be individualy completed and stored.

From: andra Ruiz <alexandrara@ yahoo.com>To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:41:15 AMSubject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Wow Rich...my answers would have to be identical to yours...except for I don't know where I first noticed my condition. GREAT idea about the database...just wondering how we would be able to compile all the information. Maybe there's some sort of "online survey" that we can create...I think they must have had me in mind when they created the term "control freak" :o)andra

From: McKenna <r.mckennawestnet (DOT) com.au>To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:30:42 PMSubject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Hello All,

I was thinking last night, and after reading the post below, although we are all talking about this and making progress imo, we are making a lot of connections here too but I am worried that we are not recording these down to see the logical links. If I am incorrect please let me know, but how would everyone feel about a database of information being collected so that we can cross reference information we are getting over the long term and see if there are any connections? ??

I had this idea that the database could contain information such as some of the questions below, and also ranging to ancestery, sex, weight diet and even moving into things like eye color and other personality traits.

There is of course worries about privacy etc etc and I am not sure how comfortable everyone is with this, or if it has already been done, but I think we could make great progress if the information were stored in a place that would allow cross referencing rather then only through emails? Your thoughts please???

In response to below:

I noticed my 4s in a movie cinema when I was about 13-14

I am sure.

Crunching, gulping smacking lips knives and forks on plates, scraping, coughing to some degree, soft breathing, gum smacking, movement out of the corner of my eye, dogs licking paws dogs drinking, sniffing, muffeled voices in another room, keyboar typing (on bad days) sound of water being poured into a glass. Slurping, squishy food, ummm I think thats it at the moment.

Depends on my mood at the time, there is aparticular type of person and everyone here knows the type that I am talking about that seems to have all of the above in one nice little package!

Anger aggression, disgust! Hartred, have to leave, complete shut down in side, scared and sad, feeling lost and hopeless, must make them stop! Ust want to be left alone in silence and sometimes wishing I were deaf, wish it was over and always looking for a way out, wishing I wasn¢t such a bother on my family and others around me, wishing I could control.

Others have apologised, done the noise more, confused, frustrated that I am angry, angry, moving away not understanding and understanding.

Depends on my mood and how much sleep I get but it ranges from Moderate to severe.

By the way, how many people here would rate them selves a control freak ~not because~ of the 4S but naturally.?? ?

Kind Regards

Rich

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of andrealeigh4Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:15 AMTo: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I am wondering a couple things about everyone. I thought it could beinteresting to see everyone's replies.When did you first notice your 4s symptoms?Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess?What sounds bother you?Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?What is your "inside" reaction?How do you actually react?What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been"annoyed" by their noises?How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound?

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Thankyou J I realised my mistake after sending the email, its no longer

called soft sound sensitivity syndrome by selective? I place that down to less

than an hour sleep. I have been reading through the new web site, there is a

lot of information on there and the letter there that was sent to Oprah is very

very good,  hopefully with all of our letters action will be taken.

Rich

From: Soundsensitivity

[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of a Pereira

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 7:56 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

, this is a GREAT email!!! You have amazing

communication skills and were able to touch on the key issues that would make a

non 4Ser want to know more. Thanks from all of us to everyone

that has sent in their personal email to Oprah.

a

To: Soundsensitivity

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:36:50 AM

Subject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I don¢t believe it, I don¢t know if it

was a placebo, if i wasn¢t as bad as I thought I was, if it was a multitude of

other factors or if it was the brainwave track, but.... I just managed to sit

through an entire dinner meal, with scrapping slurping, banging from knives and

forks and motor mouths, a lot of multi conversation talking and loud gulping,

normally my dodge zone in 1 minute!.

It wasn¢t easy, and the noises were

still...uncomfortab le, but that felt more a learned response, I actually did

not feel the need to run away and my anger was certainly down! I don¢t know if

I should be very happy or very confused.

My head is rather sore, and I am rather

irritable but at the same time somewhat calm, not like my normal stress ball

after a family dinner....

I will need quite a lot more testing to

see if it was the high level beta track that has helped, and if it is.... maybe

this is a key to something... maybe... I really hope it is because that means

we might be able to adapt something... I don¢t know if I should be letting

myself get my hopes up but... I want to this time. I want to hope.

I have also sent a letter to Oprah, got

it down to less then 2000 characters as it wouldn¢t seem to take 2000, here it

is:

Dear Oprah

Im a 22 year old male who suffers from a

condition called Soft Sound Sensitivity Syndrome or 4S. It is the collapsed

tolerance to certain sounds in particular crunching gulping lip smacking soft

breathing & many other sounds. When I hear these noises I feel an

uncontrollable disgust & aggression towards the person making them &

often I am forced to leave to escape. If I stay feelings of despair isolation

& inability to cope overwhelm me. It hurts me to feel this way to the

people I care about most, most when they are doing nothing wrong & are

victims to my outburst or disappearances almost nightly at family dinners,

worse still is my sadness from not being able to hold my partner as we fall

asleep as the sound of her breathing is like a hurricane of anxiety in my mind.

It hurts me more to read stories of parents with 4S who are afraid to hear

their own children eat or cry as this is a trigger sound for them. I cant

imagine the pain that it would cause for a parent to feel so aggressive towards

a child they love so dearly, without any ability to control these feelings,

without any hope of a cure.

An online group dedicated to people with

this condition are desperately trying to contact you as 4S has yet to be

formally diagnosed & has received little attention from the medical

community. 4S deteriorates over time & is crippling to the majority of

peoples lives, forcing them away from social events, friends, family &

eventually society as a whole.

We beg for your support in bringing

awareness of this condition to the media in hopes that others with 4S

understand theyare not alone & research is instigated for a cure. I know

that you probably receive thousands of emails a day asking for help, but I know

in my heart that if you bring awareness of 4S to the world, you will give hope

to thousands if not millions of people who are living with this condition,

hope, that one day there will be a cure & one day we will be able to live a

normal life.

With Hope

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com]

On Behalf Of McKenna

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 6:59 PM

To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Ah teach me to read ahead before

posting.

Hmmm in a rather bad state at the

moment, I have retreated to my bedroom as almost all sounds are getting to me.

I have noticed that when I enter these sates, my speech slurs somewhat, I

feel slow and generally cant think. Does anyone else get this???

I have set up a brainwave entertainment

track designed to make me wide awake and uplift my mood, in fact it should make

me very aware of everything, Im trying to rip myself out of this state.

Information as follows:

Session length 1 Hr

Ramp from 14.2 Mhz to 55mhz over 15

minutes, remaining at 55 mhz for the duration of the track no ramp down.

Entertainment amplitude phase 246.5 Sine

waveform

Intensity 63

Filtered from Trance music.

Information above for my own research

and if anyone else has any suggestions, the ramp is quick and is likely to give

me a headache.

On a side note i¢m getting thoroughly

annoyed with this email to Oprah, Im 54 characters over!!!!

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of a Pereira

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:37 PM

To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

andra,

Great

idea about creating the survey. Maybe you can create a draft of the

survey and send it to the group? Then everyone can add questions that they

think are important... .then once the final is approved by everyone it can be

individualy completed and stored.

From:

andra Ruiz <alexandrara@ yahoo.com>

To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:41:15 AM

Subject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Wow

Rich...my answers would have to be identical to yours...except for I don't know

where I first noticed my condition.

GREAT idea about the database...just wondering how we would be able to compile

all the information. Maybe there's some sort of " online survey "

that we can create...

I think they must have had me in mind when they created the term " control

freak " :o)

andra

From:

McKenna <r.mckennawestnet (DOT) com.au>

To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:30:42 PM

Subject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Hello All,

I was thinking last night, and after

reading the post below, although we are all talking about this and making

progress imo, we are making a lot of connections here too but I am worried that

we are not recording these down to see the logical links. If I am incorrect

please let me know, but how would everyone feel about a database of information

being collected so that we can cross reference information we are getting over

the long term and see if there are any connections? ??

I had this idea that the database could

contain information such as some of the questions below, and also ranging to

ancestery, sex, weight diet and even moving into things like eye color and

other personality traits.

There is of course worries about privacy

etc etc and I am not sure how comfortable everyone is with this, or if it has

already been done, but I think we could make great progress if the information

were stored in a place that would allow cross referencing rather then only

through emails? Your thoughts please???

In response to below:

I noticed my 4s in a movie cinema when I

was about 13-14

I am sure.

Crunching, gulping smacking lips knives

and forks on plates, scraping, coughing to some degree, soft breathing, gum

smacking, movement out of the corner of my eye, dogs licking paws dogs

drinking, sniffing, muffeled voices in another room, keyboar typing (on bad

days) sound of water being poured into a glass. Slurping, squishy food, ummm I

think thats it at the moment.

Depends on my mood at the time, there is

aparticular type of person and everyone here knows the type that I am talking

about that seems to have all of the above in one nice little package!

Anger aggression, disgust! Hartred, have

to leave, complete shut down in side, scared and sad, feeling lost and

hopeless, must make them stop! Ust want to be left alone in silence and

sometimes wishing I were deaf, wish it was over and always looking for a way

out, wishing I wasn¢t such a bother on my family and others around me, wishing

I could control.

Others have apologised, done the noise

more, confused, frustrated that I am angry, angry, moving away not

understanding and understanding.

Depends on my mood and how much sleep I

get but it ranges from Moderate to severe.

By the way, how many people here would

rate them selves a control freak ~not because~ of the 4S but naturally.?? ?

Kind Regards

Rich

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com]

On Behalf Of andrealeigh4

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:15 AM

To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I am wondering a couple things about everyone. I thought it could be

interesting to see everyone's replies.

When did you first notice your 4s symptoms?

Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess?

What sounds bother you?

Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?

What is your " inside " reaction?

How do you actually react?

What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been

" annoyed " by their noises?

How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound?

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HERE ARE MY ANSWERS:

When did you first notice your 4s symptoms?

AS A CHILD

Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess?

I'M PRETTY SURE

What sounds bother you?

SO MANY, HIGH FREQUENCY SOUNDS, KEYS, DISHES, CHIMES, SQUEALS, DISTINCT

S's & T's IN VOICES, PAPER, FEET SCUFFING, MANY MORE

Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?

CERTAIN PEOPLE'S VOICES ARE MORE PAINFUL THAN OTHERS, IT REALLY IS WHAT

SOUND THE PERSON IS MAKING OR WHAT THEY ARE DOING THAT BOTHERS ME

What is your " inside " reaction?

HEADACHES, FEELING TWISTED UP

How do you actually react?

HIT MY HEAD, RUN AWAY, GET ANGRY AND FRUSTRATED, TRY TO HIDE HOW I'M

REACTING FROM THE PERSON(S)

What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been

" annoyed " by their noises?

DON'T BELIEVE ME, DON'T CARE, OCCASIONALLY UNDERSTANDING AND WILL STOP

MAKING THE NOISE

How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound?

PROFOUND

-Randall

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Hi a,

If you have the time by all means, Im here to help if you need

anything, and btw, I think what you are doing for your sister is wonderful,

that must mean an incredible amount to her.

As for suggestions, there is some info on this web site:

http://www.soundsensitive.org/

But I am not sure how recent that information is on the % wise

for responses that is....???

There has been a lot of talk about race so that should be a

question, does anyone else in the family have it, age sex weight diet lifestyle

maybe even something as ridiculous as eye colour??? All of the below questions

too. There must be some other connection other then what we know.. hmmm maybe

include peoples jobs if they feel comfortable maybe we can tap into knowledge

outside of 4s to come up with a cure? Or more information to fix it. Maybe a

question about if people can feel when its going to be a bad or a good day for

them and what information their body is giving them, ie for me I can feel myself

slump my brain gets slow and almost stupid and I slur, thats only when its

going to be very very bad. Maybe if there was a trauma in persons life before

4s no dets or anything. Injusy if any to the head>??? Also what people have

done to try and get over it and the results of fixing it maybe out of ten? Hours

of sleep per night? Personality traits such as control freaks introverts

extroverts, I know there is a myers briggs type personality test maybe we are

all the same type? Maybe not.

Im am now just rambling sorry, maybe some ideas that can be adapted.

Im off to sleep, sweet dreams all and best of luck

Rich

From: Soundsensitivity

[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of a Pereira

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 7:34 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I took a look at this site and, in theory, it seems

straighforward and user friendly. I don't mind creating a sample survey

and sending it to the group for everyone's critique and suggestions. Rich

(or anyone else), if you are good with computer applications and would like to

take on the sample survey instead please let me know. As I mentioned in

my earlier emails, I do not suffer from 4S, my sister andra does. I

have joined to learn more about the disorder and help search

for solutions/treatments in any way that I can. Any thoughts?

Suggestions?

a

To: Soundsensitivity

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:42:59 AM

Subject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

This

is great a...I actually just went in to see how we can set up a survey on

the surveymonkey link that Rich sent and it seems fairly easy and straight

forward. Just open an account (easy and free) and you can start making

your own survey. You can choose from different types of multiple choice

answers and so forth. Why don't you have a look and let us know what you

think.

We can put questions on there like the ones that Rich stated....having to do

with lifestyle, health, nutrition/diet, symptoms, phobias, family history, sex,

weight, physical and personality characteristics and so forth.

Let me know if you need any help!

andra

From: a Pereira <susana.pereira73@ yahoo.com>

To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:32:11 PM

Subject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Hi Rich,

You are absolutely right, I was thinking the same

thing..... Unless someone else has already started to take note I would

be more than happy to track back and create a data base with all the nuances

and specifics about 4S that you have all been sharing.

From: McKenna <r.mckennawestnet (DOT) com.au>

To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:30:42 AM

Subject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Hello All,

I was thinking last night, and after

reading the post below, although we are all talking about this and making

progress imo, we are making a lot of connections here too but I am worried that

we are not recording these down to see the logical links. If I am incorrect

please let me know, but how would everyone feel about a database of information

being collected so that we can cross reference information we are getting over

the long term and see if there are any connections? ??

I had this idea that the database could

contain information such as some of the questions below, and also ranging to

ancestery, sex, weight diet and even moving into things like eye color and

other personality traits.

There is of course worries about privacy

etc etc and I am not sure how comfortable everyone is with this, or if it has

already been done, but I think we could make great progress if the information

were stored in a place that would allow cross referencing rather then only

through emails? Your thoughts please???

In response to below:

I noticed my 4s in a movie cinema when I

was about 13-14

I am sure.

Crunching, gulping smacking lips knives

and forks on plates, scraping, coughing to some degree, soft breathing, gum

smacking, movement out of the corner of my eye, dogs licking paws dogs

drinking, sniffing, muffeled voices in another room, keyboar typing (on bad

days) sound of water being poured into a glass. Slurping, squishy food, ummm I

think thats it at the moment.

Depends on my mood at the time, there is

aparticular type of person and everyone here knows the type that I am talking

about that seems to have all of the above in one nice little package!

Anger aggression, disgust! Hartred, have

to leave, complete shut down in side, scared and sad, feeling lost and

hopeless, must make them stop! Ust want to be left alone in silence and

sometimes wishing I were deaf, wish it was over and always looking for a way

out, wishing I wasn¢t such a bother on my family and others around me, wishing

I could control.

Others have apologised, done the noise

more, confused, frustrated that I am angry, angry, moving away not

understanding and understanding.

Depends on my mood and how much sleep I

get but it ranges from Moderate to severe.

By the way, how many people here would

rate them selves a control freak ~not because~ of the 4S but naturally.?? ?

Kind Regards

Rich

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com]

On Behalf Of andrealeigh4

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:15 AM

To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I am wondering a couple things about everyone. I thought it could be

interesting to see everyone's replies.

When did you first notice your 4s symptoms?

Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess?

What sounds bother you?

Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?

What is your " inside " reaction?

How do you actually react?

What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been

" annoyed " by their noises?

How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound?

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That' great Rich!!! To know that you have had even just a short moment of improvement really gives me hope that we can all somehow get better.Your email was absolutely perfect and wonderfully written :o)andraTo: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday,

November 25, 2008 5:36:50 PMSubject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I don¢t believe it, I don¢t know if it was a placebo,

if i wasn¢t as bad as I thought I was, if it was a multitude of other

factors or if it was the brainwave track, but.... I just managed to sit through

an entire dinner meal, with scrapping slurping, banging from knives and forks

and motor mouths, a lot of multi conversation talking and loud gulping, normally

my dodge zone in 1 minute!. It wasn¢t easy, and the noises were still...uncomfortable,

but that felt more a learned response, I actually did not feel the need to run

away and my anger was certainly down! I don¢t know if I should be very

happy or very confused. My head is rather sore, and I am rather irritable but at the

same time somewhat calm, not like my normal stress ball after a family dinner.... I will need quite a lot more testing to see if it was the high

level beta track that has helped, and if it is.... maybe this is a key to

something...maybe... I really hope it is because that means we might be able to

adapt something... I don¢t know if I should be letting myself get my

hopes up but... I want to this time. I want to hope. I have also sent a letter to Oprah, got it down to less then

2000 characters as it wouldn¢t seem to take 2000, here it is: Dear Oprah Im a 22 year old male who suffers from a condition called Soft

Sound Sensitivity Syndrome or 4S. It is the collapsed tolerance to certain

sounds in particular crunching gulping lip smacking soft breathing & many

other sounds. When I hear these noises I feel an uncontrollable disgust &

aggression towards the person making them & often I am forced to leave to

escape. If I stay feelings of despair isolation & inability to cope overwhelm

me. It hurts me to feel this way to the people I care about most, most when

they are doing nothing wrong & are victims to my outburst or disappearances

almost nightly at family dinners, worse still is my sadness from not being able

to hold my partner as we fall asleep as the sound of her breathing is like a

hurricane of anxiety in my mind. It hurts me more to read stories of parents

with 4S who are afraid to hear their own children eat or cry as this is a

trigger sound for them. I cant imagine the pain that it would cause for a

parent to feel so aggressive towards a child they love so dearly, without any

ability to control these feelings, without any hope of a cure. An online group dedicated to people with this condition are

desperately trying to contact you as 4S has yet to be formally diagnosed &

has received little attention from the medical community. 4S deteriorates over

time & is crippling to the majority of peoples lives, forcing them away

from social events, friends, family & eventually society as a whole. We beg for your support in bringing awareness of this condition

to the media in hopes that others with 4S understand theyare not alone &

research is instigated for a cure. I know that you probably receive thousands

of emails a day asking for help, but I know in my heart that if you bring

awareness of 4S to the world, you will give hope to thousands if not millions

of people who are living with this condition, hope, that one day there will be

a cure & one day we will be able to live a normal life. With Hope

From: Soundsensitivity

[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of McKenna

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 6:59 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Ah teach me to read ahead before posting. Hmmm in a rather bad state at the

moment, I have retreated to my bedroom as almost all sounds are getting to me.

I have noticed that when I enter these sates, my speech slurs somewhat, I

feel slow and generally cant think. Does anyone else get this??? I have set up a brainwave entertainment

track designed to make me wide awake and uplift my mood, in fact it should make

me very aware of everything, Im trying to rip myself out of this state. Information as follows: Session length 1 Hr Ramp from 14.2 Mhz to 55mhz over 15

minutes, remaining at 55 mhz for the duration of the track no ramp down. Entertainment amplitude phase 246.5 Sine

waveform Intensity 63 Filtered from Trance music. Information above for my own research

and if anyone else has any suggestions, the ramp is quick and is likely to give

me a headache. On a side note i¢m getting

thoroughly annoyed with this email to Oprah, Im 54 characters over!!!!

From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ]

On Behalf Of a Pereira

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:37 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

andra,

Great

idea about creating the survey. Maybe you can create a draft of the

survey and send it to the group? Then everyone can add questions that they

think are important....then once the final is approved by everyone it can be

individualy completed and stored.

From:

andra Ruiz

To: Soundsensitivity

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:41:15 AM

Subject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Wow Rich...my answers would

have to be identical to yours...except for I don't know where I first noticed

my condition.

GREAT idea about the database...just wondering how we would be able to compile

all the information. Maybe there's some sort of "online survey"

that we can create...

I think they must have had me in mind when they created the term "control

freak" :o)

andra

From:

McKenna <r.mckennawestnet (DOT) com.au>

To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:30:42 PM

Subject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Hello All, I was thinking last night, and after

reading the post below, although we are all talking about this and making

progress imo, we are making a lot of connections here too but I am worried that

we are not recording these down to see the logical links. If I am incorrect

please let me know, but how would everyone feel about a database of information

being collected so that we can cross reference information we are getting over

the long term and see if there are any connections? ?? I had this idea that the database could

contain information such as some of the questions below, and also ranging to

ancestery, sex, weight diet and even moving into things like eye color and

other personality traits. There is of course worries about privacy

etc etc and I am not sure how comfortable everyone is with this, or if it has

already been done, but I think we could make great progress if the information

were stored in a place that would allow cross referencing rather then only

through emails? Your thoughts please??? In response to below: I noticed my 4s in a movie cinema when I

was about 13-14 I am sure. Crunching, gulping smacking lips knives

and forks on plates, scraping, coughing to some degree, soft breathing, gum

smacking, movement out of the corner of my eye, dogs licking paws dogs

drinking, sniffing, muffeled voices in another room, keyboar typing (on bad

days) sound of water being poured into a glass. Slurping, squishy food, ummm I

think thats it at the moment. Depends on my mood at the time, there is

aparticular type of person and everyone here knows the type that I am talking

about that seems to have all of the above in one nice little package! Anger aggression, disgust! Hartred, have

to leave, complete shut down in side, scared and sad, feeling lost and

hopeless, must make them stop! Ust want to be left alone in silence and

sometimes wishing I were deaf, wish it was over and always looking for a way

out, wishing I wasn¢t such a bother on my family and others around me, wishing

I could control. Others have apologised, done the noise

more, confused, frustrated that I am angry, angry, moving away not

understanding and understanding. Depends on my mood and how much sleep I

get but it ranges from Moderate to severe. By the way, how many people here would

rate them selves a control freak ~not because~ of the 4S but naturally.?? ? Kind Regards Rich

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com]

On Behalf Of andrealeigh4

Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:15 AM

To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I am wondering a couple things about everyone. I thought it could be

interesting to see everyone's replies.

When did you first notice your 4s symptoms?

Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess?

What sounds bother you?

Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?

What is your "inside" reaction?

How do you actually react?

What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been

"annoyed" by their noises?

How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound?

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, this letter is absolutely fantastic. Well done! I feel exactly the same as you.

:)

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:36:50 AMSubject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I don¢t believe it, I don¢t know if it was a placebo, if i wasn¢t as bad as I thought I was, if it was a multitude of other factors or if it was the brainwave track, but.... I just managed to sit through an entire dinner meal, with scrapping slurping, banging from knives and forks and motor mouths, a lot of multi conversation talking and loud gulping, normally my dodge zone in 1 minute!.

It wasn¢t easy, and the noises were still...uncomfortab le, but that felt more a learned response, I actually did not feel the need to run away and my anger was certainly down! I don¢t know if I should be very happy or very confused.

My head is rather sore, and I am rather irritable but at the same time somewhat calm, not like my normal stress ball after a family dinner....

I will need quite a lot more testing to see if it was the high level beta track that has helped, and if it is.... maybe this is a key to something.... maybe... I really hope it is because that means we might be able to adapt something... I don¢t know if I should be letting myself get my hopes up but... I want to this time. I want to hope.

I have also sent a letter to Oprah, got it down to less then 2000 characters as it wouldn¢t seem to take 2000, here it is:

Dear Oprah

Im a 22 year old male who suffers from a condition called Soft Sound Sensitivity Syndrome or 4S. It is the collapsed tolerance to certain sounds in particular crunching gulping lip smacking soft breathing & many other sounds. When I hear these noises I feel an uncontrollable disgust & aggression towards the person making them & often I am forced to leave to escape. If I stay feelings of despair isolation & inability to cope overwhelm me. It hurts me to feel this way to the people I care about most, most when they are doing nothing wrong & are victims to my outburst or disappearances almost nightly at family dinners, worse still is my sadness from not being able to hold my partner as we fall asleep as the sound of her breathing is like a hurricane of anxiety in my mind. It hurts me more to read stories of parents with 4S who are afraid to hear their own children eat or

cry as this is a trigger sound for them. I cant imagine the pain that it would cause for a parent to feel so aggressive towards a child they love so dearly, without any ability to control these feelings, without any hope of a cure.

An online group dedicated to people with this condition are desperately trying to contact you as 4S has yet to be formally diagnosed & has received little attention from the medical community. 4S deteriorates over time & is crippling to the majority of peoples lives, forcing them away from social events, friends, family & eventually society as a whole.

We beg for your support in bringing awareness of this condition to the media in hopes that others with 4S understand theyare not alone & research is instigated for a cure. I know that you probably receive thousands of emails a day asking for help, but I know in my heart that if you bring awareness of 4S to the world, you will give hope to thousands if not millions of people who are living with this condition, hope, that one day there will be a cure & one day we will be able to live a normal life.

With Hope

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of McKennaSent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 6:59 PMTo: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSubject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Ah teach me to read ahead before posting.

Hmmm in a rather bad state at the moment, I have retreated to my bedroom as almost all sounds are getting to me. I have noticed that when I enter these sates, my speech slurs somewhat, I feel slow and generally cant think. Does anyone else get this???

I have set up a brainwave entertainment track designed to make me wide awake and uplift my mood, in fact it should make me very aware of everything, Im trying to rip myself out of this state.

Information as follows:

Session length 1 Hr

Ramp from 14.2 Mhz to 55mhz over 15 minutes, remaining at 55 mhz for the duration of the track no ramp down.

Entertainment amplitude phase 246.5 Sine waveform

Intensity 63

Filtered from Trance music.

Information above for my own research and if anyone else has any suggestions, the ramp is quick and is likely to give me a headache.

On a side note i¢m getting thoroughly annoyed with this email to Oprah, Im 54 characters over!!!!

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of a PereiraSent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:37 PMTo: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: Just curious.....a poll of sorts

andra,

Great idea about creating the survey. Maybe you can create a draft of the survey and send it to the group? Then everyone can add questions that they think are important... .then once the final is approved by everyone it can be individualy completed and stored.

From: andra Ruiz <alexandrara@ yahoo.com>To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:41:15 AMSubject: Re: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Wow Rich...my answers would have to be identical to yours...except for I don't know where I first noticed my condition. GREAT idea about the database...just wondering how we would be able to compile all the information. Maybe there's some sort of "online survey" that we can create...I think they must have had me in mind when they created the term "control freak" :o)andra

From: McKenna <r.mckennawestnet (DOT) com.au>To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:30:42 PMSubject: RE: Just curious....a poll of sorts

Hello All,

I was thinking last night, and after reading the post below, although we are all talking about this and making progress imo, we are making a lot of connections here too but I am worried that we are not recording these down to see the logical links. If I am incorrect please let me know, but how would everyone feel about a database of information being collected so that we can cross reference information we are getting over the long term and see if there are any connections? ??

I had this idea that the database could contain information such as some of the questions below, and also ranging to ancestery, sex, weight diet and even moving into things like eye color and other personality traits.

There is of course worries about privacy etc etc and I am not sure how comfortable everyone is with this, or if it has already been done, but I think we could make great progress if the information were stored in a place that would allow cross referencing rather then only through emails? Your thoughts please???

In response to below:

I noticed my 4s in a movie cinema when I was about 13-14

I am sure.

Crunching, gulping smacking lips knives and forks on plates, scraping, coughing to some degree, soft breathing, gum smacking, movement out of the corner of my eye, dogs licking paws dogs drinking, sniffing, muffeled voices in another room, keyboar typing (on bad days) sound of water being poured into a glass. Slurping, squishy food, ummm I think thats it at the moment.

Depends on my mood at the time, there is aparticular type of person and everyone here knows the type that I am talking about that seems to have all of the above in one nice little package!

Anger aggression, disgust! Hartred, have to leave, complete shut down in side, scared and sad, feeling lost and hopeless, must make them stop! Ust want to be left alone in silence and sometimes wishing I were deaf, wish it was over and always looking for a way out, wishing I wasn¢t such a bother on my family and others around me, wishing I could control.

Others have apologised, done the noise more, confused, frustrated that I am angry, angry, moving away not understanding and understanding.

Depends on my mood and how much sleep I get but it ranges from Moderate to severe.

By the way, how many people here would rate them selves a control freak ~not because~ of the 4S but naturally.?? ?

Kind Regards

Rich

From: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Soundsensit ivity@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of andrealeigh4Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 5:15 AMTo: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Just curious....a poll of sorts

I am wondering a couple things about everyone. I thought it could beinteresting to see everyone's replies.When did you first notice your 4s symptoms?Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess?What sounds bother you?Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?What is your "inside" reaction?How do you actually react?What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been"annoyed" by their noises?How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound?

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> I am wondering a couple things about everyone. I thought it could be> interesting to see everyone's replies.> > When did you first notice your 4s symptoms?

Aged 14

> > Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess?

Sure - it was a couple of months before went on a holiday to one part of the UK that we only visited one year.

> What sounds bother you?

Breathing, eating, gum popping, whistling, humming, typing, texting, jangling keys and coins and probably a few more that I can't remember at the moment.

In all cases it doesn't bother me if I am the one making the noise.

> > Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?

My father is my worst trigger

> > What is your "inside" reaction?

"Shut the **** up!"

> > How do you actually react?

Deep breaths, maybe head in hands and sighing. Sometimes imitation of the sounds.

> > What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been> "annoyed" by their noises?

The only reactions have come when I've imitated them - and they've turned round and told me to be quiet! lol

> > How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound?

Moderate

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> I am wondering a couple things about everyone. I thought it could be

> interesting to see everyone's replies.

>

> When did you first notice your 4s symptoms? High School

>

> Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess? Guess

>

> What sounds bother you? Chewing/Popping of gum

>

> Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others? Gum

Chewers! It

doesn't matter who

>

> What is your " inside " reaction? total paralysis at first, inner clench!

>

> How do you actually react? Flinch

>

> What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been

> " annoyed " by their noises? Apathy, annoyance at me for being annoyed at them

>

> How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound? moderate

>

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> I am wondering a couple things about everyone. I thought it could be

> interesting to see everyone's replies.

>

> When did you first notice your 4s symptoms? At around age 4 or 5. When I was sitting next to friends who were eating, I'd feel shaky and my skin would start to crawl because of the noise. It upset me, because I was so young and I did not know why chewing noises did that to me.

>

> Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess? 4 or 5 if the earliest I remember, but it may have been sooner.

>

> What sounds bother you? Anything MOUTH or CHEWING related such as loud crunching, lip smacking, burping, throat clearing, tooth brushing, etc. Even the sounds of silverware banging on plates or bowls sets me off. Oh, and of course like everyone else, GUM CHEWING, especially the violent and gnawing and cracking type of gum chewing. Loud breathing or exhaling sounds, especially while eating. Also swallowing and slurping noises.

>

> Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others? Gum Chewers! I hate to admit it, but my CLOSEST FAMILY MEMBERS bother me the most. My parents have always bothered me and now my in laws and my husband drive me crazy too. My children are 5 and 1, I hope I do not start to react the same way towards them.

>

> What is your "inside" reaction? I feel angry, upset, ready to cry and helpless. I have said before, I feel like the sounds are INFLICTING VIOLENCE on me in some way-- like I've just been hit, punched or pinched. I also get very angry and rage filled and I start to have rushing thoughts about how "terrible" the person making the noises is. I also have some violent urges, but I would never act on them. Sometimes I get MIGRAINES from the noises if they are really bad.

>

> How do you actually react? I do whatever I can to GET AWAY FROM THE SOUNDS or leave the room. If I can't leave I get hostile and moody and seethe inside so that people ask me "why I am so moody" and I can't answer because they wouldn't "get" it.

>

> What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been

> "annoyed" by their noises? My husband yells at me and tells me I'm "crazy" and that I should just "get over it." Sometimes people look at me funny and give me a half laugh half snide sigh. I am too afraid to tell many people how I feel however. And the not being able to tell them how I feel just makes it worse.

>

> How would you rate your 4S? Mild, moderate, severe, profound? I hate to admit it but it goes from moderate to, yes, downright severe.

>

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- When did you first notice your 4s symptoms? 20 something

- Are you sure of when they started or are you making a guess? I'm

making a guess based on my poor memory. I can faintly remember,

around the age of 8 or 9, being irritated by my father's post nasal

drip throat clearing, but do not remember feeling a heightened panic

or anger, but irritation. But my memory is really bad. The true

time I remember feeling the magnified emotions was in my late 20's

when ticking started to drive me insane!

- What sounds bother you? plastic bags being crumpled or opened and

closed, rattling of them, basically, also any eating sounds, scraping

of plastic bowls or tupperware is esp. bad, throat clearing or loud

breathing, repetitive anything such as ticking, words or sayings,

beeping, crunching of any food drives me bonkers, someone rattling

around in their purse to find something, keys being jangled in a

pocket and anything high pitched like a large bird or child that

won't stop screeching. Also, the letter L if mispronounced under the

tongue. I hate that!!!

- Does any one person or group of people bother you more than others?

No, but I do develop a stronger anger reaction if its the same person

doing it over and over, day by day (ie in a cubicle work environment

where everyone eats all day long, esp. loud, crunch food like celery

and apples!)

- What is your " inside " reaction? Panic, then anger or fear or

misery/sorrow if I can't get away. Embarrassment that I can't

control my own reactions despite the fact that I realize it is

irrational. I never say a word to anyone except my boyfriend when

the trigger sounds are made because I know that no one else would

understand and would become defensive and angry with me. My 4S is a

secret from everyone around me except for my family and my best

friends.

- How do you actually react?   First I push the skin/cartilage flaps

near my ears over both my ear openings as hard as I can to block out

the sound (this hurts when done all day long). Then I reach for

headphones to block the sounds with loud music as fast as I can, but

sometimes I can't do that in certain situations so I either sit there

with my ears blocked and panic and my heart races or I run away into

another room until it's safe to return again. I never say anything

to the noise maker for fear of hurting their feelings (except for my

boyfriend who understands how much it hurts me, and then only when I

cannot just walk away instead).

- What are some reactions you've gotten from others when you've been

" annoyed " by their noises? My boyfriend at first was hurt and angry,

but then he began to understand and accept me and my 4S and tries not

to make trigger sounds around me. His manners have improved in

eating situations for my sake, thankfully. No one else knows except

my closest friends and family. But my best friend's boyfriend does

not understand and keeps asking me why I do not just " deal with it, "

or why I can't control my reactions. I hate that. My answer

was, " That's why it's so upsetting for me. I CANNOT control it. Do

you really think I would CHOOSE to feel rage, anxiety and panic or

that I haven't already every method I could think of to deal with

it? " Jesus, that attitude makes me mad! It's like telling someone

with cancer to just " deal with it and get over it. Don't let the

pain bother you. "

- How would you rate your 4S? severe

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I wish I knew what causes the milder times, but I really don't. I have a few conjectures, but that's it. Stress, diet, etc--nothing earth shattering.

I had a pretty mild day yesterday--I was home all day with a cold, and my kids and husband were with me. I felt great, noise-wise, most of the day, but I suddenly got very stressed out and annoyed for a few minutes in the evening. My son has asthma and was making some funny throat noises, and even though I can usually handle these because they're relatively rare, I couldn't stand to hear them. I left the room, stormed around the kitchen for a bit, slammed a cupboard door to vent, and then I was fine. What the heck?

Thinking back, I remember hearing a noisy truck running outside just before that. I wonder if that, combined with the throat noises, pushed me over a threshold. I just couldn't take it anymore and had to leave.

It's worse if I think about the source of the sound too much. I have another neighbor with a noisy truck, and I don't mind it too much because I don't hear it that often. She started it up yesterday, and I started thinking about the truck and whether it's noisy because it's broken or if it's purposeful, and whether she's thought about fixing it, etc, and I started getting really annoyed at the sound. Maybe it's another link to OCD--I tend to obsess about the reason and source of my trigger sounds. I don't think I have true OCD, but I do check things more than most people. When I was a kid, I used to check every single baseboard heater in the house before I went to bed, because I saw a fire movie at school showing a towel draped over a space heater igniting a house fire. Probably not normal???

I just realized I missed the first two poll questions somehow. My age of onset was 8 or 9, and I'm pretty sure beause I remember trying to plug my ears in my 4th grade classroom to shut out the sniffing. In fifth grade, I had a substitute teacher who made a big show of passing out tissues to everyone after recess. I loved her. She must have had 4s too.

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