Treatment Order: Virus then Lyme /Bacteria?

[Guest guest]

Hello everyone

My naturopath said she thought we should treat my son's measles

before going after the babesia, bartonella, borellia. He also has a

parasite but it has come down considerably according to her

biofeedback machine and she suggested maybe a month or two it would

probably be gone if we stayed on the same course.

I am wondering if anyone has experience or opinions on treatment

order. I think I read somewhere parasites, then bacteria, then

virus. But I would imagine everyone is different, and perhaps the

naturopath suggested that since the measles registered as an " 8 " on

her machine (intensity of his reaction to it) and the bad B

bacterias average about 4. Perhaps his body wants to work on the

measles first?

Also, what about metals? Do people chelate during the process of

addressing pathogens?

Any thoughts would be great. We are seeing the MD tomorrow and will

probably start to map out a course. I just ordered the Lyme books,

so I'd like opinions here before agreeing to the big plan.

Thanks so much,

[Guest guest]

It has been my experience with most people who have NOT done any

type of detox prior to EAV/EDS testing show parasites and or fungus

as the # 1 priority. And this can change on a regular basis, esp if

you are testing during a full moon. Once you start treating a

particular bug, as you take it out others come in to the picture, so

its an iterative thing, you want to test in each session what is a

priority, also get the state of the ANS, ie numbers, very important

to me, the numbers ie 3 or more shows extremely stressed ANS and

total body energy, ie > 60 in overdrive, too much gas;); If organs

are stressed or weakend, do treatment for this first then proceed.

If treating with LED's, laser, energetic outputs, microcurrent,

lymph, always get these numbers first: ANS and the total body

energy, so we can stabilize this " state " BEFORE pushing forward

with a detox treatment. Sometimes, initially, the child

is " stabilized " but during the course of the LED, energetic outputs,

etc. symptoms showing overload can appear suddenly, pullback and

treat, then in the next session, work to complete the whole

sequence. Typically, after 2 - 3 like this, the child becomes able

to withstand and move forward. Depending on outside factors, ie

chelation with DMSA, colds and flu, these can change and need to

adjust, etc. Yyou don't want to get pushy and treat Lyme on top of

everything, do a mild approach and let the Lyme come up itself in

the EAV/EDS, then you know it is ready to be addressed ( also take

potencies and match those to a homochord), etc.

>

> Hello everyone

>

> My naturopath said she thought we should treat my son's measles

> before going after the babesia, bartonella, borellia. He also has

a

> parasite but it has come down considerably according to her

> biofeedback machine and she suggested maybe a month or two it

would

> probably be gone if we stayed on the same course.

>

> I am wondering if anyone has experience or opinions on treatment

> order. I think I read somewhere parasites, then bacteria, then

> virus. But I would imagine everyone is different, and perhaps the

> naturopath suggested that since the measles registered as an " 8 "

on

> her machine (intensity of his reaction to it) and the bad B

> bacterias average about 4. Perhaps his body wants to work on the

> measles first?

>

> Also, what about metals? Do people chelate during the process of

> addressing pathogens?

>

> Any thoughts would be great. We are seeing the MD tomorrow and

will

> probably start to map out a course. I just ordered the Lyme books,

> so I'd like opinions here before agreeing to the big plan.

>

> Thanks so much,

>

>

[Guest guest]

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THANK YOU SO MUCH Dr. Shaw! You are a true blessing!!

I have lots of thoughts on this one. In my 4 years of recovering

experience and stories of several BioMeridian machines here's some

of my top thoughts:

1) There are several BioMeridian machines, some are FDA approved

(generally the newer ones) and some are not. This group has posted

several good threads on this. I'm going to refer you back to a

couple of informative messages, once again Dr. Shaw's #1126 which is

FDA approved. I'm familiar with the Asyra (again FDA approved) and

one recent message just had info on DrLC's new machine. I personally

LOVE these machines, but the machine is only as good as the

frequencies that keep it updated and the doctor's training in taking

care of both the machine and the treatments...and yes they can be

hard to find a good practitioner. Not many step up to this level.

2) Standard protocol does list a generalized order, parasites

generally being 1st. These machines also list a total body burden,

which does come into play. In my opinion, these two things do not

take the place of what the body wants worked on 1st....and this

changes by the childs toxic load, it's detox pathways ability to

handle the load, and the bodies overall immune system. I could not

feel more blessed that we have drs that understand this. I would

like to refer you back to the post of my dear friends experience

with the Scio and DA (message #1220). In this child's case the

biggest body burden via the machine was Lyme, but the body wanted

the MMR and tummy taken care of 1st, and the child reacted

accordingly. Sometimes the metals are the biggest body burden

stress, but the detox must also be in order to handle this. These

machines are one more tool to help, and I LOVE them, but a good

practioner that understands this is priceless!

Sounds like you are on the right track though!!!

Rita

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> Hello everyone

>

> My naturopath said she thought we should treat my son's measles

> before going after the babesia, bartonella, borellia. He also has

a

> parasite but it has come down considerably according to her

> biofeedback machine and she suggested maybe a month or two it

would

> probably be gone if we stayed on the same course.

>

> I am wondering if anyone has experience or opinions on treatment

> order. I think I read somewhere parasites, then bacteria, then

> virus. But I would imagine everyone is different, and perhaps the

> naturopath suggested that since the measles registered as an " 8 "

on

> her machine (intensity of his reaction to it) and the bad B

> bacterias average about 4. Perhaps his body wants to work on the

> measles first?

>

> Also, what about metals? Do people chelate during the process of

> addressing pathogens?

>

> Any thoughts would be great. We are seeing the MD tomorrow and

will

> probably start to map out a course. I just ordered the Lyme books,

> so I'd like opinions here before agreeing to the big plan.

>

> Thanks so much,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Dr. Shaw and Rita for your insights.

The machine the naturopath uses is not a biomeridian. I will

have to get the name of it next time I see her (early Dec.). She calls it a Bio-feedback

Stress Assessment Analyzer on her website but that sounds general and not the

brand.

She seems to be a very good practitioner, but I believe she mainly does

the testing, and will also recommend herbs, supplements, etc. and how much, but

only with me and not for my son – she provides the info to my son’s

M.D that she works with, and he does the prescribing (he is a Lyme experienced

DAN! / integrative doctor). I think she doesn’t want to step on his toes

too much since he is the primary and he referred my son to her.

I think what I am hearing is that she is most likely right and my son’s

body probably wants to deal with the measles first (at least during that test)

but that it might also change depending on any further issues that come up.

We have been at this for about a year, and have been using drainage

remedies, supplements to open up and support methylation, antioxidants, BioSET

treatments, antifungals, and a few herbs. He was making decent progress,

slowly, but doesn’t seem to be advancing at any faster rate and in some

things may have stopped progressing.

I am concerned that the M.D. will want to go after the Lyme first, and I

wanted to put up a good argument for working on virus first (or whatever the

course should be based on more than one opinion). The M.D. may think the same

thing, but in case he didn’t I wanted to have my opinion formed.

Thanks to everyone for ideas and sharing.

Best,