Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 It is exciting isn't it -- especially since the other studies seem to back it up. Eby sells the stuff -- he told me he'd sell me a 1/3 bottle, as it's expensive. But I can't even afford that right now. What I'm curious about is why he says one needs the 42% dilution for frozen shoulders, when the 14% was what was used for the horses, and the other arthritis and rheumatism issues??? Here's his link: http://gallium-nitrate.com/ Dan > Interesting you should mention horses Penny. I found these links last week when I was > diagnosed. > > This guy Eby (the man who came up with the zinc lozenge for colds) -- found that > treating lame horses with the trace mineral " gallium " restored their energy, etc., after a > week or so of external rubs and soaks. > > But the interesting part was that the people treating horses found that THEIR pains went > away as well. > > http://george-eby-research.com/html/arthritis.html > > And even more interesting is this PubMed study that found that gallium inhibits > pseudomonas growth: > > http://www.jci.org/cgi/content/abstract/117/4/877 > > INTERESTING...??? > > Dan > > --- > > > Recent Activity > > 2 > New Members > > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 dang, I didn't see the 42% for frozen shoulders. I ordered a bottle of the 14%, which you're supposed to dilute down to 1% anyway? Then, if I get results, my husband (the chemist) said perhaps we could buy our own in the raw form. pennykdrbrill <kdrbrill@...> wrote: It is exciting isn't it -- especially since the other studies seem to back it up. Eby sells the stuff -- he told me he'd sell me a 1/3 bottle, as it's expensive. But I can't even afford that right now. What I'm curious about is why he says one needs the 42% dilution for frozen shoulders, when the 14% was what was used for the horses, and the other arthritis and rheumatism issues???Here's his link:http://gallium-nitrate.com/Dan--- In infections , Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote:>> Wow, Dan! This is very big news to me. The info definitely seems to be borne out in other places as well. It's great that it's being studied as a possible treatment for cystic fibrosis as CF patients are very prone to pseudomonas infection. Here's another link to a CF article:> > http://www.cff.org/aboutCFFoundation/NewsEvents/index.cfm?ID=6169 & TYPE=1670> > The articles say gallium not only destroys the bug and biofilm, but that it's an inhibitor of bone resorption. That's a big problem for those of us with rotting jaws/bones, not to mention all those folks with degenerative arthritis due to infection/inflammation. I've even got a frozen shoulder which is mentioned! And Eby says that apparently gallium only settles in the inflamed tissues that need help, not healthy tissue. I suppose it could be an issue however, if you've got kidney problems or something of the sort. You wouldn't want to be damaging your kidneys or liver. You definitely need to remember it's experimental, but Eby's horse sure seems to be doing fine.> > I'd be really interested in trying it. If it could slow down the bone rot, eliminate the pseudomonas, the frozen shoulder and the intermittent arthritic type symptoms at the same time, it would be like hitting a grand slam and the lottery all at once! > > Thanks for these links. Here's another account by Eby:> > http://arthritistrust.org/Articles/Gallium.pdf> > Now I'm just trying to figure out where I can get some for a trial. > > penny> > p.s. after some searching I found this place that sells a gallium topical for horses: > > http://gallium-nitrate.com/ > > Apparently this is Eby's site as his contact info is there, and the links he has in other articles no longer take you to anything other than zinc.> > I'd like to find some place that sells it orally. Did you come across anything?> > > > The Journal article:> > Gallium: a new antibacterial agent? > > > > > New antibacterial strategies are needed because an increasing proportion of bacterial infections are caused by antibiotic-resistant bacteria and because antibiotics are not effective at eradicating chronic bacterial infections. The approach taken by Kaneko and colleagues was to combat bacteria by imposing on them an environment in which they cannot survive, an environment in which their access to Fe, which is critical for growth, is limited (pages 877–888). The presence of Ga, which is chemically similar to Fe, in culture medium inhibited the growth of Pseudomonas aeruginosa, even multidrug-resistant strains of P. aeruginosa isolated from individuals with cystic fibrosis. Ga also prevented P. aeruginosa from forming biofilms, the multicellular bacterial communities responsible for chronic bacterial infections, and killed both free-living bacteria and bacteria in biofilms. Furthermore, inhalation of Ga protected mice from both acute and chronic P. aeruginosa lung> infections. As Ga is already FDA approved for the treatment of hypercalcemia of malignancy, these data suggest that Ga might be a promising new therapeutic for the treatment of infection with P. aeruginosa. > > J. Clin. Invest. 117:837 (2007). doi:10.1172/JCI31956.> Copyright ©2007 by the American Society for Clinical Investigation > > http://www.jci.org/cgi/content/full/117/4/837> > kdrbrill <kdrbrill@...> wrote:> Interesting you should mention horses Penny. I found these links last week when I was > diagnosed. > > This guy Eby (the man who came up with the zinc lozenge for colds) -- found that > treating lame horses with the trace mineral "gallium" restored their energy, etc., after a > week or so of external rubs and soaks.> > But the interesting part was that the people treating horses found that THEIR pains went > away as well.> > http://george-eby-research.com/html/arthritis.html> > And even more interesting is this PubMed study that found that gallium inhibits > pseudomonas growth:> > http://www.jci.org/cgi/content/abstract/117/4/877> > INTERESTING...???> > Dan> > ---> > > Recent Activity> > 2> New Members> > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 I emailed earlier today re 14 vs 42% -- here's his reply: " We started out with 14% and use that for many years, and much later developed the 42%. I still have many customers that want the 14%, although I am trying to ween them off of it. It is too expensive to ship mostly water. The 14% does work on frozen shoulder, however one must repeatedly treat to keep the shoulder wet for 60 to 90 minutes. With the 42%, just apply it and it will soak in over about an hour to an hour and a half time without repeating, although you can repeat for added effect. " d. infections , Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: > > dang, I didn't see the 42% for frozen shoulders. I ordered a bottle of the 14%, which you're supposed to dilute down to 1% anyway? Then, if I get results, my husband (the chemist) said perhaps we could buy our own in the raw form. > > penny > > kdrbrill <kdrbrill@...> wrote: > It is exciting isn't it -- especially since the other studies seem to back it up. > > Eby sells the stuff -- he told me he'd sell me a 1/3 bottle, as it's expensive. But I > can't even afford that right now. What I'm curious about is why he says one needs the 42% > dilution for frozen shoulders, when the 14% was what was used for the horses, and the > other arthritis and rheumatism issues??? > > Here's his link: > > http://gallium-nitrate.com/ > > Dan > > > > Interesting you should mention horses Penny. I found these links last week when I > was > > diagnosed. > > > > This guy Eby (the man who came up with the zinc lozenge for colds) -- found > that > > treating lame horses with the trace mineral " gallium " restored their energy, etc., after a > > week or so of external rubs and soaks. > > > > But the interesting part was that the people treating horses found that THEIR pains went > > away as well. > > > > http://george-eby-research.com/html/arthritis.html > > > > And even more interesting is this PubMed study that found that gallium inhibits > > pseudomonas growth: > > > > http://www.jci.org/cgi/content/abstract/117/4/877 > > > > INTERESTING...??? > > > > Dan > > > > --- > > > > > > Recent Activity > > > > 2 > > New Members > > > > Visit Your Group > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Agh! Geez, on the order page I used I didn't see anything like this. It looks like it's just for horses! And it cost over $200 for the 42% so I went for the cheaper one. Oh well. Maybe I'll email him, see if he's shipped already and ask him to send me a smaller amount. thanks, pennykdrbrill <kdrbrill@...> wrote: I emailed earlier today re 14 vs 42% -- here's his reply:"We started out with 14% and use that for many years, and much later developed the 42%. I still have many customers that want the 14%, although I am trying to ween them off of it. It is too expensive to ship mostly water.The 14% does work on frozen shoulder, however one must repeatedly treat to keep the shoulder wet for 60 to 90 minutes. With the 42%, just apply it and it will soak in over about an hour to an hour and a half time without repeating, although you can repeat for added effect."d.infections , Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote:>> dang, I didn't see the 42% for frozen shoulders. I ordered a bottle of the 14%, which you're supposed to dilute down to 1% anyway? Then, if I get results, my husband (the chemist) said perhaps we could buy our own in the raw form.> > penny> > kdrbrill <kdrbrill@...> wrote:> It is exciting isn't it -- especially since the other studies seem to back it up. > > Eby sells the stuff -- he told me he'd sell me a 1/3 bottle, as it's expensive. But I > can't even afford that right now. What I'm curious about is why he says one needs the 42% > dilution for frozen shoulders, when the 14% was what was used for the horses, and the > other arthritis and rheumatism issues???> > Here's his link:> > http://gallium-nitrate.com/> > Dan> > > > Interesting you should mention horses Penny. I found these links last week when I > was > > diagnosed. > > > > This guy Eby (the man who came up with the zinc lozenge for colds) -- found > that > > treating lame horses with the trace mineral "gallium" restored their energy, etc., after a > > week or so of external rubs and soaks.> > > > But the interesting part was that the people treating horses found that THEIR pains went > > away as well.> > > > http://george-eby-research.com/html/arthritis.html> > > > And even more interesting is this PubMed study that found that gallium inhibits > > pseudomonas growth:> > > > http://www.jci.org/cgi/content/abstract/117/4/877> > > > INTERESTING...???> > > > Dan> > > > ---> > > > > > Recent Activity> > > > 2> > New Members> > > > Visit Your Group > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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