Valkion starting amounts

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Lorina & I have just talked about starting this thread to help the

new Valkion users get group input for starting, saving & re-

searching.

I would like to preface this by letting you know when Lorina & I got

ours we only had each other starting fresh to bounce off of (LOTS of

calls between us...at least we had DA close with her DK experience).

At that time we did not know that the Activated water was important

so neither one of us started it till the DK conference, about a

month after starting the air. So as far as just starting with this,

we are gleaning a little from what DK said at the conference in

addition to Lorina's experience restarting after crashing with just

the water. (Lorina will post further).

As we do this more controlled in this group than when we did it, we

will be better able to support this as a team and as we share our

info, it will be easier for us to pinpoint things for those coming

behind us.

I also want to comment that the timing of this did not work out the

best (it took Lorina & I a month to get our machine) with DA gone

till the beginning of Dec. She can only support current patients,

but if there is a crash, it helps us to have her patients be able to

call her the dr and have her advise and test what's really going on.

It may be advisable to start even slower than normal then ramp up

when she's back and can better support to you (and us).

The support will tend to get tricky for us as this can be so

individualized. It will be very dependant on where the child is in

severity (including the heavier load of toxins) and whether they are

already further along in recovery (ie lower toxin levals means less

to dump. Those with already lowered metals (chelation), and lowered

yeast, virus, and bacteria levels). Obviously the higher functioning

and further along the child is, the less likely for a crash AND the

more familiar the parents will be to watch and deal with detox

issues. So to assist with the support on this I think we need to lay

some things out that will help all of us in the future:

1) We need to know where the child is on the spectum..what about a 1-

10 (1 being low functioning, 10 being very high functioning...I know

this is pretty relative, but it will help us).

2) I believe it is signifacant if the child has seizures or is non-

verbal..so please concider these as important enough to comment (and

#1-10 to track if you seeing them get better or worse.

3) We need to know how far along in recovery they are...1 being

loaded with toxins-10 being low in toxins (having successfully

chelated so metals are low, good gut, low in

virals/bacterials/parasites).

I think each one of these factors should be judged by the parent to

determine starting Valkion doses.

For your info, Zander and were both farther along in the

recovery, both being 2+ years with DA when we started. Being further

along in our recovery we had already dealt with gut issues, had both

been through successful anti-viral treatments, and mine had chelated

for over 4 years using DMSA/ALA (oral 3/11 cycles), injected DMPS,

Cilantro, & Chlorella. We had also been through a complete 13

session LED detox cycle and in a QN maintenence stage. For we

had a documented new kid but not fully recovered. ART and Asyra wise

we still have some remaining toxins (though substantially reduced we

still have some), especially metals and viruses. He has minor (major

reduction from a few years ago) OCD and verbal stimming, still has

problems staying on task at school (better than it was, but still

has to be reminded to stay on tast in a general ed public school

classroom of 22), still struggles with social immaturity and

advanced speech like at school his sentance structure with nouns,

verbs etc still needs support (but would have a hard time pegging

him at recess or at a park) with a 1-2 year acedemic delay in some

subjects. So I would rate as a 7 when starting the Valkion

last Summer as far as ASD level. Currently I'd rate him at an 8

(we've been using it for 5 months now).

Lorina & I just started the air with no real direction....we all

know more now. I personally have not seen a crash with ...we

did see detox symptoms that needed action (ie extra binders or

probiotics)...I knew enough to give extra probiotics and extra

chlorella (which he was already on and ART tested high for). So

other than having to slow down a little when the detox symptoms hit,

we have seen very little negative and a lot of positive.

Unfortunately I did not document a lot, but here's what I remember:

We started the air at about 5-7 min. We held for 3-4 days then upped

by 1-2 min...held 3-4 days. We've been seeing DA every 3 weeks. She

was very please with how well he was doing and told me to stay my

course and fluctate my binders as need be. One month into it at the

conference we added the water starting at 1 oz (since DK recommends

starting with the water we will be swapping this in our

recommendations below). I Activate per the manual (30 min for just

short of a quart...underfill your glass quart canning jar as the

water splatters when activating). I stayed at 1 oz for 3-4 days then

added an oz. At 2 oz's DA checked him and said to go to 2 oz 2x a

day..his body loved it and wanted more. So we went to 2 oz 2x and

held for a month....at this point we also held at 15 min of air. The

next appt 3 weeks later DA upped us to 20 min of air and his body

was wanting more water so she upped to 3oz 2x a day. 3 weeks later

she upped again and told us he can have as much water as he wants.

Most of the time it's still 3oz 2x a day but periodically he will

ask for an extra 1/2 glass which is about 3-4oz's. Because of school

schedules we always do the air shortly after school (and usually

doing homework to stimulate his mind while on the air...usually

flash cards, he's doing them so much better now he's up to x12's

now...whoooo!...beginning of this summer he had trouble with basic

addition cards. His water he receives mixed with his morning

supplements and right before dinner...we don't do it to late as it

can wind them up. This timing seams to work with a 9a-3:30 school

schedule.

Lorina also said she will post to this thread their Valkion amounts,

crashes and re-starting for those of you wanting to pattern...again

I need to mention, 3 years ago Zander was non-verbal, self injurous,

and very non-responsive...he's come a long way!! (Lorina, rate

Zander on our 1-10 ASD scale at the beginning of your bio-med

journey, at the beginning of the Valkion and now...please!)

So here's what I'm going to suggest to the high functioning, further

along in recovery kids: Also, I am advising all that are new to the

Valkion to activate to the manual and leave the extra strength DK

version for down the road:

Start with water 1oz 1x a day for 3-5 days. Then add 1 more oz (this

can be 1oz am and 1 oz pm) for the next 3-5 days....manage your

detox. 3-5 days later add 3-5 min of air...hold for 5 days. Continue

adding 1-2 min of air or 1 oz water every 5 days as the child can.

For those lower on the spectrum or with less recovery (ie higher

toxin load) cut the above appropriately.

Gayatri...I'm looking forward to you're experience because you're an

awesome muscle tester...please keep us posted as to how much your

child wants.

Also, if you have one, use those lasers on the liver, kidney, lymph

and gut for detox support.

Rita

There are several others on this list using the Valkion with varying

degress on the spectrum. Please post to this thread to help the new

users. Thank you in advance, your input is very much appreciated.

Rita