Re: Moms are to blame again for autism

[Guest guest]

This is how they spend research dollars? My son does not have protruding

ears or peculiar toes. He does not have a large head but does have

intestinal problems as did my first born with ADD. I did not engage in

any unhealthy habits I did not take any medications until Therbuterol

when I went into early labor at 27 weeks. And I wouldn't have done that

but my doctor insisted. I sometimes wish I would have taken my chances

on a preemie. My first cousin was born weighing only 1.5 pounds. He's

now getting married and graduated college.

Trina

hildabowen wrote:

>

> Yes, we moms are apparently to blame again for " unhealthy " behavior

> during or right before pregnancy. I didn't engage in any " unhealthy "

> behavior, for 12 months before I got pregnant, acted " as if " I was

> pregnant, exercised, didn't take anything for my morning sickness.

>

> Article in ScienceDaily:

>

> Autism And Schizophrenia Share Common Origin, Review Suggests

> ScienceDaily (Dec. 18, 2008) — Schizophrenia and autism probably

> share a common origin, hypothesises Dutch researcher Annemie Ploeger

> following an extensive literature study. The developmental

> psychologist demonstrated that both mental diseases have similar

> physical abnormalities which are formed during the first month of

> pregnancy.

>

> Developmental psychologist Annemie Ploeger has investigated whether

> there is a connection between disorders in the first month of

> pregnancy and the development of schizophrenia and autism.

> Interestingly, many physical abnormalities of autistics are also

> prevalent in schizophrenics. For example, both autistics and

> schizophrenics sometimes have protruding ears and peculiar toes.

> There are also differences: a large head and intestinal problems, for

> example, are typical traits occurring in autistics. From this,

> Ploeger concluded that the two disorders share a common origin. The

> same error that occurs very early in pregnancy develops into autism

> in one individual and schizophrenia in another.

>

> Early vulnerability

>

> Ploeger's research reveals that in the period between 20 and 40 days

> after fertilisation, the embryo is highly susceptible to disruptions.

> In this period, early organogenesis, there is a lot of interaction

> between the different parts of the body. If something goes wrong with

> a given part of the body, it greatly influences the development of

> other parts of the body. As people with schizophrenia and autism

> frequently have physical abnormalities to body parts formed during

> early organogenesis, Ploeger concluded that the foundation for these

> psychiatric disorders is laid very early during pregnancy.

>

> The existence of a relationship between unhealthy behaviour during

> pregnancy and the subsequent development of schizophrenia and autism

> in the child was already known. However, Ploeger's hypothesis that

> the early organogenesis stage is the most critical, is new. Ploeger

> bases her hypothesis on an extensive study of scientific literature

> in this area. She often had to make use of related studies; although

> a lot of research has been done into prenatal influences on the

> development of schizophrenia and autism, little is known about the

> influence that the period between 20 to 40 days after fertilisation

> has.

>

> Toxic pregnancy medicine

>

> For example, she acquired information about autism from a study into

> softenon use. Softenon is a drug against morning sickness that was

> administered to women in the 1960s and 1970s. Later it was discovered

> that severely disabled children were born as a result of this

> medicine. Autistic children were born in four percent of pregnancies

> in which softenon was used, whereas normally this figure is 0.1

> percent. Women could state exactly when they started to take

> softenon. The women who had taken softenon between the 20th and 24th

> day of the pregnancy had the greatest chance of giving birth to an

> autistic child.

>

> Ploeger advises women to stop risky behaviour such as smoking,

> medicine use and stressful activities before they even become

> pregnant. If you only start to live healthily once you know that you

> are pregnant, the basis for a disrupted development of your child

> could already have been laid.

>

> Ploeger's research was partly financed by NWO is within the research

> programme Evolution and Behaviour. The doctoral thesis " Towards an

> integration of evolutionary psychology and developmental science: New

> insights from evolutionary developmental biology " was defended on 3

> December 2008. The supervisor was Prof. H.L.J. van der Maas,

> associate supervisors: Dr M.E.J. Raijmakers, Dr F. Galis

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------

> ----------

>

> Adapted from materials provided by NWO (Netherlands

>

>

[Guest guest]

Science Daily...

These are the same people that think we evolved from a walking fish or

an ape.. or even from a single cell .. what did that single cell EAT

?? They have all the answers to the wrong questions.. Mothers ARE NOT

the reason children are born with Autism...as many of us know our

children are born free.. Autism comes after that first jab after

birth.. we know the truth.. why don't the scientists concentrate on

what happens to THEM after they shoot up with a mixture of Mercury,

Fermaldahyde, and Anti freeze... the basic ingredients of

Thimerosal..aka..the preservative in Vaccines that affected not only

mothers but infants as well. Why don't they do a study on WHY we

allow 60 Times the amount of Mercury we as adults are recommended per

the EPA for a year.. to be shot up into a baby after being born ?

I think thier study is about as useless as a " How To " book on

parenting children that will someday be Scientists and do research

like this !! Are they just this bored and stuck on the thoughts of

the past ? It appears to be... oh well .. Merry Christmas to them anyway.

E. , Sr. The Office of Advocacy for Autistic Children

(NO, we are not 'afraid' of the Advocacy police !!!)

>

> Yes, we moms are apparently to blame again for " unhealthy " behavior

> during or right before pregnancy. I didn't engage in any " unhealthy "

> behavior, for 12 months before I got pregnant, acted " as if " I was

> pregnant, exercised, didn't take anything for my morning sickness.

>

> Article in ScienceDaily:

>

> Autism And Schizophrenia Share Common Origin, Review Suggests

> ScienceDaily (Dec. 18, 2008) — Schizophrenia and autism probably

> share a common origin, hypothesises Dutch researcher Annemie Ploeger

> following an extensive literature study. The developmental

> psychologist demonstrated that both mental diseases have similar

> physical abnormalities which are formed during the first month of

> pregnancy.

>

>

> Developmental psychologist Annemie Ploeger has investigated whether

> there is a connection between disorders in the first month of

> pregnancy and the development of schizophrenia and autism.

> Interestingly, many physical abnormalities of autistics are also

> prevalent in schizophrenics. For example, both autistics and

> schizophrenics sometimes have protruding ears and peculiar toes.

> There are also differences: a large head and intestinal problems, for

> example, are typical traits occurring in autistics. From this,

> Ploeger concluded that the two disorders share a common origin. The

> same error that occurs very early in pregnancy develops into autism

> in one individual and schizophrenia in another.

>

> Early vulnerability

>

> Ploeger's research reveals that in the period between 20 and 40 days

> after fertilisation, the embryo is highly susceptible to disruptions.

> In this period, early organogenesis, there is a lot of interaction

> between the different parts of the body. If something goes wrong with

> a given part of the body, it greatly influences the development of

> other parts of the body. As people with schizophrenia and autism

> frequently have physical abnormalities to body parts formed during

> early organogenesis, Ploeger concluded that the foundation for these

> psychiatric disorders is laid very early during pregnancy.

>

> The existence of a relationship between unhealthy behaviour during

> pregnancy and the subsequent development of schizophrenia and autism

> in the child was already known. However, Ploeger's hypothesis that

> the early organogenesis stage is the most critical, is new. Ploeger

> bases her hypothesis on an extensive study of scientific literature

> in this area. She often had to make use of related studies; although

> a lot of research has been done into prenatal influences on the

> development of schizophrenia and autism, little is known about the

> influence that the period between 20 to 40 days after fertilisation

> has.

>

> Toxic pregnancy medicine

>

> For example, she acquired information about autism from a study into

> softenon use. Softenon is a drug against morning sickness that was

> administered to women in the 1960s and 1970s. Later it was discovered

> that severely disabled children were born as a result of this

> medicine. Autistic children were born in four percent of pregnancies

> in which softenon was used, whereas normally this figure is 0.1

> percent. Women could state exactly when they started to take

> softenon. The women who had taken softenon between the 20th and 24th

> day of the pregnancy had the greatest chance of giving birth to an

> autistic child.

>

> Ploeger advises women to stop risky behaviour such as smoking,

> medicine use and stressful activities before they even become

> pregnant. If you only start to live healthily once you know that you

> are pregnant, the basis for a disrupted development of your child

> could already have been laid.

>

> Ploeger's research was partly financed by NWO is within the research

> programme Evolution and Behaviour. The doctoral thesis " Towards an

> integration of evolutionary psychology and developmental science: New

> insights from evolutionary developmental biology " was defended on 3

> December 2008. The supervisor was Prof. H.L.J. van der Maas,

> associate supervisors: Dr M.E.J. Raijmakers, Dr F. Galis

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> ----------

>

> Adapted from materials provided by NWO (Netherlands

>

[Guest guest]

<<Interestingly, many physical abnormalities of autistics are also prevalent in schizophrenics. For example, both autistics and schizophrenics sometimes have protruding ears and peculiar toes. There are also differences: a large head and intestinal problems, for example, are typical traits occurring in autistics. From this, Ploeger concluded that the two disorders share a common origin. The same error that occurs very early in pregnancy develops into autism in one individual and schizophrenia in another.>>

This reminds me of the joke about a research study that found that the majority of multi-alarm fires have many fire trucks parked nearby. So, of course, fire trucks must cause fires.

I think it is especially funny to take the observation that "autistics and schizophrenics SOMETIMES have protruding ears and peculiar toes" as evidence that the error for all autistic and schizophrenic disorders occurs early in pregnancy. So, if my kid doesn't have protruding ears and peculiar toes (which he doesn't), does that mean I'm off the hook for causing his autism before I knew I was pregnant? Wait, some autistic and schizophrenic people have freckles. Oh dear. Hmmm, when do these develop? My kid has freckles, I wonder when I did something during pregnancy to cause that and whatever other challenges he has?

Gaylen

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[Guest guest]

Well at least I'm a schizoid this go-round and not a cold bitch of a

refrigerator mom. I guess that's an improvement.

> >

> > Yes, we moms are apparently to blame again for " unhealthy "

behavior

> > during or right before pregnancy. I didn't engage in

any " unhealthy "

> > behavior, for 12 months before I got pregnant, acted " as if " I

was

> > pregnant, exercised, didn't take anything for my morning

sickness.

> >

> > Article in ScienceDaily:

> >

> > Autism And Schizophrenia Share Common Origin, Review Suggests

> > ScienceDaily (Dec. 18, 2008) — Schizophrenia and autism probably

> > share a common origin, hypothesises Dutch researcher Annemie

Ploeger

> > following an extensive literature study. The developmental

> > psychologist demonstrated that both mental diseases have similar

> > physical abnormalities which are formed during the first month of

> > pregnancy.

> >

> >

> > Developmental psychologist Annemie Ploeger has investigated

whether

> > there is a connection between disorders in the first month of

> > pregnancy and the development of schizophrenia and autism.

> > Interestingly, many physical abnormalities of autistics are also

> > prevalent in schizophrenics. For example, both autistics and

> > schizophrenics sometimes have protruding ears and peculiar toes.

> > There are also differences: a large head and intestinal problems,

for

> > example, are typical traits occurring in autistics. From this,

> > Ploeger concluded that the two disorders share a common origin.

The

> > same error that occurs very early in pregnancy develops into

autism

> > in one individual and schizophrenia in another.

> >

> > Early vulnerability

> >

> > Ploeger's research reveals that in the period between 20 and 40

days

> > after fertilisation, the embryo is highly susceptible to

disruptions.

> > In this period, early organogenesis, there is a lot of

interaction

> > between the different parts of the body. If something goes wrong

with

> > a given part of the body, it greatly influences the development

of

> > other parts of the body. As people with schizophrenia and autism

> > frequently have physical abnormalities to body parts formed

during

> > early organogenesis, Ploeger concluded that the foundation for

these

> > psychiatric disorders is laid very early during pregnancy.

> >

> > The existence of a relationship between unhealthy behaviour

during

> > pregnancy and the subsequent development of schizophrenia and

autism

> > in the child was already known. However, Ploeger's hypothesis

that

> > the early organogenesis stage is the most critical, is new.

Ploeger

> > bases her hypothesis on an extensive study of scientific

literature

> > in this area. She often had to make use of related studies;

although

> > a lot of research has been done into prenatal influences on the

> > development of schizophrenia and autism, little is known about

the

> > influence that the period between 20 to 40 days after

fertilisation

> > has.

> >

> > Toxic pregnancy medicine

> >

> > For example, she acquired information about autism from a study

into

> > softenon use. Softenon is a drug against morning sickness that

was

> > administered to women in the 1960s and 1970s. Later it was

discovered

> > that severely disabled children were born as a result of this

> > medicine. Autistic children were born in four percent of

pregnancies

> > in which softenon was used, whereas normally this figure is 0.1

> > percent. Women could state exactly when they started to take

> > softenon. The women who had taken softenon between the 20th and

24th

> > day of the pregnancy had the greatest chance of giving birth to

an

> > autistic child.

> >

> > Ploeger advises women to stop risky behaviour such as smoking,

> > medicine use and stressful activities before they even become

> > pregnant. If you only start to live healthily once you know that

you

> > are pregnant, the basis for a disrupted development of your child

> > could already have been laid.

> >

> > Ploeger's research was partly financed by NWO is within the

research

> > programme Evolution and Behaviour. The doctoral thesis " Towards

an

> > integration of evolutionary psychology and developmental science:

New

> > insights from evolutionary developmental biology " was defended on

3

> > December 2008. The supervisor was Prof. H.L.J. van der Maas,

> > associate supervisors: Dr M.E.J. Raijmakers, Dr F. Galis

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

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> > ----------

> >

> > Adapted from materials provided by NWO (Netherlands

> >

>