Re: autism may be from pleomorphic pathogens

[Guest guest]

" When I recently looked up syphillis and read

how difficult it is to detect, just like lyme, I was pretty shocked.

I thought many of us could have syphillis and never know. Many of us

might have syphillis and think we have lyme due to them both causing

similar symptoms. "

Heidi, syphilis is actually easy enough to treat if you are under the

care of a classical homeopath. The syphilinum miasm is what is

supposed to cause auto-immune disease as it causes the destruction of

cells. According to Luc Schepper, all autism is syphilitic. Our first

homeopath was of the opinion that autism was tubercular (combination

of sycotic and psoric miasms). I actually think its all three major

miasms of old (Hahnemanian) with a bunch of acute miasms (from

infections) thrown in for good measure. I think perhaps the only way

to effectively treat lyme disease and co-infections should be with

homeopathic nosodes and I wonder why someone isn't going that route

more aggressively. You do need to be careful with nosodes however as

there is danger of overdosing on them and causing more harm than good.

Are there any lyme homeopaths out there?

Gayatri

>

> I recently saw some reports that appear to show that military

> children are significantly more likely to have autism and also the

> pathogen rumoured to case Gulf War Syndrome amongst the military is a

> pleomorphic mycoplasma. I have often thought that autism is similar

> to AIDS, in that with AIDS, the immune system is burned out, and one

> stock-piles pathogens and toxins and gets an over-growth of

> opportunistic pathogens (germs we all have overgrow due to burned-out

> immune system).

>

> With AIDS, the problem is that the virus is pleomorphic, burning out

> the immune system. With lyme, syphillis and some forms of

> mycoplasma, they are pleomorphic. I really think that autism is

> caused by pleomorphic bacteria. Either one of the three just

> mentioned, or all three. One can certainly have all three. And to

> add to this theory, lyme, syphillis and mycoplasma all have

> unreliable testing detection. Thus, we have infections we have great

> difficulty testing for. When I recently looked up syphillis and read

> how difficult it is to detect, just like lyme, I was pretty shocked.

> I thought many of us could have syphillis and never know. Many of us

> might have syphillis and think we have lyme due to them both causing

> similar symptoms. And the amount of people out there with autism,

> MS, Lupus, ALS, Fibro., schizophrenia, etc. that could really have

> syphillis or mycoplasma or of course lyme, is definitely worth of

> consideration. I think pleomorphic bacteria fits as a cause of these

> diagnoses. The problem appears to be unreliable testing to detect

> these. Of course, other pathogens are also a problem, but are

> probably only a problem because the immune system is too weakened by

> pleomorhic bacteria to allow it fight those other pathogens.

>

> And let me just add that my family is having great difficulty

> fighting off Bartonella, but it appears that when we fight the

> Bartonella in addition to using things that kill many species of

> bacteria, then we get more progress. Thus, I think that as much as

> they say to kill Bartonella first so the lyme will be able to be

> killed, I am thinking that killing the lyme/mycoplasma simultaneously

> may be absolutely necessary to rid Bartonella. I am beginning to see

> that things like Smilax and Grapefruit seed extract are really

> helping my family due to their ability to kill a broad range of

> pathogens. I am amazed at how well they work as compared to things

> that are more selective in killing only some pathogens.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi

>

[Guest guest]

Hannamhan Center for Heilkunst does address this via the miasms.

First you go through the persons's timeline, then the miasms.

check out http://homeopathy.com

> >

> > I recently saw some reports that appear to show that military

> > children are significantly more likely to have autism and also

the

> > pathogen rumoured to case Gulf War Syndrome amongst the military

is a

> > pleomorphic mycoplasma. I have often thought that autism is

similar

> > to AIDS, in that with AIDS, the immune system is burned out, and

one

> > stock-piles pathogens and toxins and gets an over-growth of

> > opportunistic pathogens (germs we all have overgrow due to burned-

out

> > immune system).

> >

> > With AIDS, the problem is that the virus is pleomorphic, burning

out

> > the immune system. With lyme, syphillis and some forms of

> > mycoplasma, they are pleomorphic. I really think that autism is

> > caused by pleomorphic bacteria. Either one of the three just

> > mentioned, or all three. One can certainly have all three. And

to

> > add to this theory, lyme, syphillis and mycoplasma all have

> > unreliable testing detection. Thus, we have infections we have

great

> > difficulty testing for. When I recently looked up syphillis and

read

> > how difficult it is to detect, just like lyme, I was pretty

shocked.

> > I thought many of us could have syphillis and never know. Many

of us

> > might have syphillis and think we have lyme due to them both

causing

> > similar symptoms. And the amount of people out there with

autism,

> > MS, Lupus, ALS, Fibro., schizophrenia, etc. that could really

have

> > syphillis or mycoplasma or of course lyme, is definitely worth of

> > consideration. I think pleomorphic bacteria fits as a cause of

these

> > diagnoses. The problem appears to be unreliable testing to

detect

> > these. Of course, other pathogens are also a problem, but are

> > probably only a problem because the immune system is too weakened

by

> > pleomorhic bacteria to allow it fight those other pathogens.

> >

> > And let me just add that my family is having great difficulty

> > fighting off Bartonella, but it appears that when we fight the

> > Bartonella in addition to using things that kill many species of

> > bacteria, then we get more progress. Thus, I think that as much

as

> > they say to kill Bartonella first so the lyme will be able to be

> > killed, I am thinking that killing the lyme/mycoplasma

simultaneously

> > may be absolutely necessary to rid Bartonella. I am beginning to

see

> > that things like Smilax and Grapefruit seed extract are really

> > helping my family due to their ability to kill a broad range of

> > pathogens. I am amazed at how well they work as compared to

things

> > that are more selective in killing only some pathogens.

> >

> > Love and prayers,

> >

> > Heidi

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We are doing sequential homeopathy to treat his whole conditioin. I

am not sure as of yet why my son became autistic...he was not

vaccinated and still regressed (maybe lyme, maybe something else).

We have done biomedical for over 7.5 years with some success but

nothing WOW! He has responded well to homeopathy in acute situations

but we could not seem to make any significant progress with classical

homeopathy...that is why I am now trying the sequential

approach...maybe the miasms are what caused his regression in the

first place (remember, no vaccines).

My son started with Rudi in March or April of this year and I

initially saw some minor gains which has plateaued. This is when I

asked Rudi if we could do a CORE test. They don't seem to require

you to do one but will if you request (again this is all done via

phone if you are not in Canada or somewhere close by their clinic).

I think I am going to try a CORE on my other son as well (NT with

multiple food allergies and growth is not great) seeing that the new

remedy may have already started to help my other son. The CORE is an

additional $130 to run but you can discuss the results at the

regularly scheduled consult ($175 TOTAL for three members of my

family, I usually schedule every 5-6 weeks...VERY INEXPENSIVE

overall).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I recently saw some reports that appear to show that

military

> > > > > > children are significantly more likely to have autism and

> > also

> > > > the

> > > > > > pathogen rumoured to case Gulf War Syndrome amongst the

> > military

> > > > is a

> > > > > > pleomorphic mycoplasma. I have often thought that autism

is

> > > > similar

> > > > > > to AIDS, in that with AIDS, the immune system is burned

out,

> > and

> > > > one

> > > > > > stock-piles pathogens and toxins and gets an over-growth

of

> > > > > > opportunistic pathogens (germs we all have overgrow due

to

> > burned-

> > > > out

> > > > > > immune system).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With AIDS, the problem is that the virus is pleomorphic,

> > burning

> > > > out

> > > > > > the immune system. With lyme, syphillis and some forms

of

> > > > > > mycoplasma, they are pleomorphic. I really think that

autism

> > is

> > > > > > caused by pleomorphic bacteria. Either one of the three

just

> > > > > > mentioned, or all three. One can certainly have all

three.

> > And

> > > > to

> > > > > > add to this theory, lyme, syphillis and mycoplasma all

have

> > > > > > unreliable testing detection. Thus, we have infections

we

> > have

> > > > great

> > > > > > difficulty testing for. When I recently looked up

syphillis

> > and

> > > > read

> > > > > > how difficult it is to detect, just like lyme, I was

pretty

> > > > shocked.

> > > > > > I thought many of us could have syphillis and never

know.

> > Many

> > > > of us

> > > > > > might have syphillis and think we have lyme due to them

both

> > > > causing

> > > > > > similar symptoms. And the amount of people out there

with

> > > > autism,

> > > > > > MS, Lupus, ALS, Fibro., schizophrenia, etc. that could

really

> > > > have

> > > > > > syphillis or mycoplasma or of course lyme, is definitely

> > worth of

> > > > > > consideration. I think pleomorphic bacteria fits as a

cause

> > of

> > > > these

> > > > > > diagnoses. The problem appears to be unreliable testing

to

> > > > detect

> > > > > > these. Of course, other pathogens are also a problem, but

are

> > > > > > probably only a problem because the immune system is too

> > weakened

> > > > by

> > > > > > pleomorhic bacteria to allow it fight those other

pathogens.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And let me just add that my family is having great

difficulty

> > > > > > fighting off Bartonella, but it appears that when we

fight

> > the

> > > > > > Bartonella in addition to using things that kill many

species

> > of

> > > > > > bacteria, then we get more progress. Thus, I think that

as

> > much

> > > > as

> > > > > > they say to kill Bartonella first so the lyme will be

able to

> > be

> > > > > > killed, I am thinking that killing the lyme/mycoplasma

> > > > simultaneously

> > > > > > may be absolutely necessary to rid Bartonella. I am

> > beginning to

> > > > see

> > > > > > that things like Smilax and Grapefruit seed extract are

> > really

> > > > > > helping my family due to their ability to kill a broad

range

> > of

> > > > > > pathogens. I am amazed at how well they work as compared

to

> > > > things

> > > > > > that are more selective in killing only some

pathogens.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Love and prayers,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Heidi

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting. I am guessing the MD I am seeing does sequential

homeopathy? She uses ART though to test. I said I have the syphyillum

miasm as well as other issues effcting polarity swtiching and ANS

balance? Cant remember. Gives stuff for emotional clearing as well as

toxin clearing. Has my dd on Nosodes and says to continue to take..

has been a month-ish.. ?? Checked a smallpox miasm for my son..

checked to see if form me since I was vaccinated, but it tested a

miasm. She is using a clearing formula for that and or just for the

MMR that she said is effecting him. How can you tell what kind of

homeopathy they use? Robin

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I recently saw some reports that appear to show that

> military

> > > > > > > children are significantly more likely to have autism

and

> > > also

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > pathogen rumoured to case Gulf War Syndrome amongst the

> > > military

> > > > > is a

> > > > > > > pleomorphic mycoplasma. I have often thought that

autism

> is

> > > > > similar

> > > > > > > to AIDS, in that with AIDS, the immune system is burned

> out,

> > > and

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > stock-piles pathogens and toxins and gets an over-

growth

> of

> > > > > > > opportunistic pathogens (germs we all have overgrow due

> to

> > > burned-

> > > > > out

> > > > > > > immune system).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With AIDS, the problem is that the virus is

pleomorphic,

> > > burning

> > > > > out

> > > > > > > the immune system. With lyme, syphillis and some forms

> of

> > > > > > > mycoplasma, they are pleomorphic. I really think that

> autism

> > > is

> > > > > > > caused by pleomorphic bacteria. Either one of the

three

> just

> > > > > > > mentioned, or all three. One can certainly have all

> three.

> > > And

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > add to this theory, lyme, syphillis and mycoplasma all

> have

> > > > > > > unreliable testing detection. Thus, we have infections

> we

> > > have

> > > > > great

> > > > > > > difficulty testing for. When I recently looked up

> syphillis

> > > and

> > > > > read

> > > > > > > how difficult it is to detect, just like lyme, I was

> pretty

> > > > > shocked.

> > > > > > > I thought many of us could have syphillis and never

> know.

> > > Many

> > > > > of us

> > > > > > > might have syphillis and think we have lyme due to them

> both

> > > > > causing

> > > > > > > similar symptoms. And the amount of people out there

> with

> > > > > autism,

> > > > > > > MS, Lupus, ALS, Fibro., schizophrenia, etc. that could

> really

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > syphillis or mycoplasma or of course lyme, is

definitely

> > > worth of

> > > > > > > consideration. I think pleomorphic bacteria fits as a

> cause

> > > of

> > > > > these

> > > > > > > diagnoses. The problem appears to be unreliable

testing

> to

> > > > > detect

> > > > > > > these. Of course, other pathogens are also a problem,

but

> are

> > > > > > > probably only a problem because the immune system is

too

> > > weakened

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > pleomorhic bacteria to allow it fight those other

> pathogens.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And let me just add that my family is having great

> difficulty

> > > > > > > fighting off Bartonella, but it appears that when we

> fight

> > > the

> > > > > > > Bartonella in addition to using things that kill many

> species

> > > of

> > > > > > > bacteria, then we get more progress. Thus, I think

that

> as

> > > much

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > they say to kill Bartonella first so the lyme will be

> able to

> > > be

> > > > > > > killed, I am thinking that killing the lyme/mycoplasma

> > > > > simultaneously

> > > > > > > may be absolutely necessary to rid Bartonella. I am

> > > beginning to

> > > > > see

> > > > > > > that things like Smilax and Grapefruit seed extract are

> > > really

> > > > > > > helping my family due to their ability to kill a broad

> range

> > > of

> > > > > > > pathogens. I am amazed at how well they work as

compared

> to

> > > > > things

> > > > > > > that are more selective in killing only some

> pathogens.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Love and prayers,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Heidi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

In sequential homeopathy, you usually write a time line of major

events in the person's life (broken bones, vaccines, relocation,

death of a loved one, etc). These issues are then treated from most

recent to birth and then the miasms are treated. Is this what the MD

is doing?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I recently saw some reports that appear to show that

> > military

> > > > > > > > children are significantly more likely to have autism

> and

> > > > also

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > pathogen rumoured to case Gulf War Syndrome amongst

the

> > > > military

> > > > > > is a

> > > > > > > > pleomorphic mycoplasma. I have often thought that

> autism

> > is

> > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > to AIDS, in that with AIDS, the immune system is

burned

> > out,

> > > > and

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > stock-piles pathogens and toxins and gets an over-

> growth

> > of

> > > > > > > > opportunistic pathogens (germs we all have overgrow

due

> > to

> > > > burned-

> > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > immune system).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > With AIDS, the problem is that the virus is

> pleomorphic,

> > > > burning

> > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > the immune system. With lyme, syphillis and some

forms

> > of

> > > > > > > > mycoplasma, they are pleomorphic. I really think

that

> > autism

> > > > is

> > > > > > > > caused by pleomorphic bacteria. Either one of the

> three

> > just

> > > > > > > > mentioned, or all three. One can certainly have all

> > three.

> > > > And

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > add to this theory, lyme, syphillis and mycoplasma

all

> > have

> > > > > > > > unreliable testing detection. Thus, we have

infections

> > we

> > > > have

> > > > > > great

> > > > > > > > difficulty testing for. When I recently looked up

> > syphillis

> > > > and

> > > > > > read

> > > > > > > > how difficult it is to detect, just like lyme, I was

> > pretty

> > > > > > shocked.

> > > > > > > > I thought many of us could have syphillis and never

> > know.

> > > > Many

> > > > > > of us

> > > > > > > > might have syphillis and think we have lyme due to

them

> > both

> > > > > > causing

> > > > > > > > similar symptoms. And the amount of people out there

> > with

> > > > > > autism,

> > > > > > > > MS, Lupus, ALS, Fibro., schizophrenia, etc. that

could

> > really

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > syphillis or mycoplasma or of course lyme, is

> definitely

> > > > worth of

> > > > > > > > consideration. I think pleomorphic bacteria fits as a

> > cause

> > > > of

> > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > diagnoses. The problem appears to be unreliable

> testing

> > to

> > > > > > detect

> > > > > > > > these. Of course, other pathogens are also a problem,

> but

> > are

> > > > > > > > probably only a problem because the immune system is

> too

> > > > weakened

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > pleomorhic bacteria to allow it fight those other

> > pathogens.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And let me just add that my family is having great

> > difficulty

> > > > > > > > fighting off Bartonella, but it appears that when we

> > fight

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > Bartonella in addition to using things that kill many

> > species

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > bacteria, then we get more progress. Thus, I think

> that

> > as

> > > > much

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > they say to kill Bartonella first so the lyme will be

> > able to

> > > > be

> > > > > > > > killed, I am thinking that killing the

lyme/mycoplasma

> > > > > > simultaneously

> > > > > > > > may be absolutely necessary to rid Bartonella. I am

> > > > beginning to

> > > > > > see

> > > > > > > > that things like Smilax and Grapefruit seed extract

are

> > > > really

> > > > > > > > helping my family due to their ability to kill a

broad

> > range

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > pathogens. I am amazed at how well they work as

> compared

> > to

> > > > > > things

> > > > > > > > that are more selective in killing only some

> > pathogens.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Love and prayers,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Heidi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ah.. thank you. No. She muscle tests for polarity (heavy metals for

me), switching (emotional for me) , ANS opened or closed (closed:

electrolytes big time for me)... then strength of organs

(surprisingly only adrenals, large intestines and kidneys weak,,,

which is I guess right one because I noticed before I looked this up

that my kidney is hurting) and for causes of certain presenting

problems. My appt was by phone since I forgot it.. she called and we

did by phone, so I missed out on some specifics. With my kids,

she " scanned " their organs with ART and some vials and went for what

is behind presenting problems as well as tested with the Klinghardt

slides for lyme and co infections. From what I understand of a

friend's experience with her, we will go through this process until

layers are revealed that we resolve. But not historically sequential

as you described. I think she must be psychic to be able to do this

over the phone... she hit one of my blocks straight on.. Its

emotional and switching.. cant remember or find notes presently. Am

being given some homeopathic remedy for this as well as several

others for circulatory, brain/nerves, Deep neurological issues: MS,

seizures, parkinson's). Currently lyme is not an issue coming up but

babesia, bartonella and rickettsia are... and I have been breathless,

having chills, sore lower legs, but my head has been clear since the

mino and flagyl. Nothing for that for now. I have no idea where this

type of visit fits in the homeopathic or Klinghart " paradigms. "

Valkion tested 10 of 10 while KMT tested 8 of 10 and rife around 5.

Beta glucan was detrimental to me right now for some reason as per

muscle testing. I have wondered if it does cause an exaggerated

immune response, though the literature says no. Vit D was a hold.

Kids had more organs showing stress for some reason although I am the

sicker one. My son may have had a detox reaction with little bumps

breaking out all over his legs and part his back.. those keratosis

type bumps that you find on backs of arms. He acted a little nuts for

a few days when we started the Vaccine cleanse. This is my no lyme

but babesia son, but babesia does not need txt at present. Chemicals,

parasites, candida, though. My daughter tested with more TBDs than me

at present. ???? Robin

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I recently saw some reports that appear to show

that

> > > military

> > > > > > > > > children are significantly more likely to have

autism

> > and

> > > > > also

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > pathogen rumoured to case Gulf War Syndrome amongst

> the

> > > > > military

> > > > > > > is a

> > > > > > > > > pleomorphic mycoplasma. I have often thought that

> > autism

> > > is

> > > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > to AIDS, in that with AIDS, the immune system is

> burned

> > > out,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > stock-piles pathogens and toxins and gets an over-

> > growth

> > > of

> > > > > > > > > opportunistic pathogens (germs we all have overgrow

> due

> > > to

> > > > > burned-

> > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > immune system).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > With AIDS, the problem is that the virus is

> > pleomorphic,

> > > > > burning

> > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > the immune system. With lyme, syphillis and some

> forms

> > > of

> > > > > > > > > mycoplasma, they are pleomorphic. I really think

> that

> > > autism

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > caused by pleomorphic bacteria. Either one of the

> > three

> > > just

> > > > > > > > > mentioned, or all three. One can certainly have

all

> > > three.

> > > > > And

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > add to this theory, lyme, syphillis and mycoplasma

> all

> > > have

> > > > > > > > > unreliable testing detection. Thus, we have

> infections

> > > we

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > great

> > > > > > > > > difficulty testing for. When I recently looked up

> > > syphillis

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > read

> > > > > > > > > how difficult it is to detect, just like lyme, I

was

> > > pretty

> > > > > > > shocked.

> > > > > > > > > I thought many of us could have syphillis and never

> > > know.

> > > > > Many

> > > > > > > of us

> > > > > > > > > might have syphillis and think we have lyme due to

> them

> > > both

> > > > > > > causing

> > > > > > > > > similar symptoms. And the amount of people out

there

> > > with

> > > > > > > autism,

> > > > > > > > > MS, Lupus, ALS, Fibro., schizophrenia, etc. that

> could

> > > really

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > syphillis or mycoplasma or of course lyme, is

> > definitely

> > > > > worth of

> > > > > > > > > consideration. I think pleomorphic bacteria fits as

a

> > > cause

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > diagnoses. The problem appears to be unreliable

> > testing

> > > to

> > > > > > > detect

> > > > > > > > > these. Of course, other pathogens are also a

problem,

> > but

> > > are

> > > > > > > > > probably only a problem because the immune system

is

> > too

> > > > > weakened

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > pleomorhic bacteria to allow it fight those other

> > > pathogens.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And let me just add that my family is having great

> > > difficulty

> > > > > > > > > fighting off Bartonella, but it appears that when

we

> > > fight

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > Bartonella in addition to using things that kill

many

> > > species

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > bacteria, then we get more progress. Thus, I think

> > that

> > > as

> > > > > much

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > they say to kill Bartonella first so the lyme will

be

> > > able to

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > killed, I am thinking that killing the

> lyme/mycoplasma

> > > > > > > simultaneously

> > > > > > > > > may be absolutely necessary to rid Bartonella. I

am

> > > > > beginning to

> > > > > > > see

> > > > > > > > > that things like Smilax and Grapefruit seed extract

> are

> > > > > really

> > > > > > > > > helping my family due to their ability to kill a

> broad

> > > range

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > pathogens. I am amazed at how well they work as

> > compared

> > > to

> > > > > > > things

> > > > > > > > > that are more selective in killing only some

> > > pathogens.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Love and prayers,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Heidi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Can someone explain what " Core " Testing is? How it helps? And what is

involved?

TIA

Allie

BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism , " djajhooten "

wrote:

>

> All the consults I do with Rudi are via phone. I have never been

to

> Canada. I just supplied them with some information about the

person

> they were running the CORE on (name, birthday, place of birth, etc).

> Rudi's wife, Patty, then ran the CORE test the day before my phone

> consult so I could discuss it with Rudi at the appt (via phone).

>

>

>

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > I recently saw some reports that appear to show that

> military

> > >> > > > children are significantly more likely to have autism and

> > > also

> > >> > the

> > >> > > > pathogen rumoured to case Gulf War Syndrome amongst the

> > > military

> > >> > is a

> > >> > > > pleomorphic mycoplasma. I have often thought that

autism

> is

> > >> > similar

> > >> > > > to AIDS, in that with AIDS, the immune system is burned

> out,

> > > and

> > >> > one

> > >> > > > stock-piles pathogens and toxins and gets an over-growth

of

> > >> > > > opportunistic pathogens (germs we all have overgrow due

to

> > > burned-

> > >> > out

> > >> > > > immune system).

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > With AIDS, the problem is that the virus is pleomorphic,

> > > burning

> > >> > out

> > >> > > > the immune system. With lyme, syphillis and some forms

of

> > >> > > > mycoplasma, they are pleomorphic. I really think that

> autism

> > > is

> > >> > > > caused by pleomorphic bacteria. Either one of the three

> just

> > >> > > > mentioned, or all three. One can certainly have all

three.

> > > And

> > >> > to

> > >> > > > add to this theory, lyme, syphillis and mycoplasma all

have

> > >> > > > unreliable testing detection. Thus, we have infections

we

> > > have

> > >> > great

> > >> > > > difficulty testing for. When I recently looked up

> syphillis

> > > and

> > >> > read

> > >> > > > how difficult it is to detect, just like lyme, I was

pretty

> > >> > shocked.

> > >> > > > I thought many of us could have syphillis and never know.

> > > Many

> > >> > of us

> > >> > > > might have syphillis and think we have lyme due to them

> both

> > >> > causing

> > >> > > > similar symptoms. And the amount of people out there

with

> > >> > autism,

> > >> > > > MS, Lupus, ALS, Fibro., schizophrenia, etc. that could

> really

> > >> > have

> > >> > > > syphillis or mycoplasma or of course lyme, is definitely

> > > worth of

> > >> > > > consideration. I think pleomorphic bacteria fits as a

cause

> > > of

> > >> > these

> > >> > > > diagnoses. The problem appears to be unreliable testing

to

> > >> > detect

> > >> > > > these. Of course, other pathogens are also a problem,

but

> are

> > >> > > > probably only a problem because the immune system is too

> > > weakened

> > >> > by

> > >> > > > pleomorhic bacteria to allow it fight those other

> pathogens.

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > And let me just add that my family is having great

> difficulty

> > >> > > > fighting off Bartonella, but it appears that when we

fight

> > > the

> > >> > > > Bartonella in addition to using things that kill many

> species

> > > of

> > >> > > > bacteria, then we get more progress. Thus, I think that

as

> > > much

> > >> > as

> > >> > > > they say to kill Bartonella first so the lyme will be

able

> to

> > > be

> > >> > > > killed, I am thinking that killing the lyme/mycoplasma

> > >> > simultaneously

> > >> > > > may be absolutely necessary to rid Bartonella. I am

> > > beginning to

> > >> > see

> > >> > > > that things like Smilax and Grapefruit seed extract are

> > > really

> > >> > > > helping my family due to their ability to kill a broad

> range

> > > of

> > >> > > > pathogens. I am amazed at how well they work as

compared

> to

> > >> > things

> > >> > > > that are more selective in killing only some pathogens.

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Love and prayers,

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Heidi

> > >> > > >

> > >> > >

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I have not done this but I did find a couple of links that were

somewhat helpful.

http://homeopathy.com/clinic/bioresonance.html

http://healthdynamics.ca/services/core-bioresonance/

In the second link if you click the link at the bottom it will take

you to another website from where you can get to a demo which shows a

bunch of different screens that give info about your body and what

might be helpful. I am unsure if this is what Heilkunst does or if

this is the machine they use?

http://www.energy-medicine.info/energy-information-system.html

Thanks

Gayatri

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > I recently saw some reports that appear to show that

> > military

> > > >> > > > children are significantly more likely to have autism and

> > > > also

> > > >> > the

> > > >> > > > pathogen rumoured to case Gulf War Syndrome amongst the

> > > > military

> > > >> > is a

> > > >> > > > pleomorphic mycoplasma. I have often thought that

> autism

> > is

> > > >> > similar

> > > >> > > > to AIDS, in that with AIDS, the immune system is burned

> > out,

> > > > and

> > > >> > one

> > > >> > > > stock-piles pathogens and toxins and gets an over-growth

> of

> > > >> > > > opportunistic pathogens (germs we all have overgrow due

> to

> > > > burned-

> > > >> > out

> > > >> > > > immune system).

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > With AIDS, the problem is that the virus is pleomorphic,

> > > > burning

> > > >> > out

> > > >> > > > the immune system. With lyme, syphillis and some forms

> of

> > > >> > > > mycoplasma, they are pleomorphic. I really think that

> > autism

> > > > is

> > > >> > > > caused by pleomorphic bacteria. Either one of the three

> > just

> > > >> > > > mentioned, or all three. One can certainly have all

> three.

> > > > And

> > > >> > to

> > > >> > > > add to this theory, lyme, syphillis and mycoplasma all

> have

> > > >> > > > unreliable testing detection. Thus, we have infections

> we

> > > > have

> > > >> > great

> > > >> > > > difficulty testing for. When I recently looked up

> > syphillis

> > > > and

> > > >> > read

> > > >> > > > how difficult it is to detect, just like lyme, I was

> pretty

> > > >> > shocked.

> > > >> > > > I thought many of us could have syphillis and never know.

> > > > Many

> > > >> > of us

> > > >> > > > might have syphillis and think we have lyme due to them

> > both

> > > >> > causing

> > > >> > > > similar symptoms. And the amount of people out there

> with

> > > >> > autism,

> > > >> > > > MS, Lupus, ALS, Fibro., schizophrenia, etc. that could

> > really

> > > >> > have

> > > >> > > > syphillis or mycoplasma or of course lyme, is definitely

> > > > worth of

> > > >> > > > consideration. I think pleomorphic bacteria fits as a

> cause

> > > > of

> > > >> > these

> > > >> > > > diagnoses. The problem appears to be unreliable testing

> to

> > > >> > detect

> > > >> > > > these. Of course, other pathogens are also a problem,

> but

> > are

> > > >> > > > probably only a problem because the immune system is too

> > > > weakened

> > > >> > by

> > > >> > > > pleomorhic bacteria to allow it fight those other

> > pathogens.

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > And let me just add that my family is having great

> > difficulty

> > > >> > > > fighting off Bartonella, but it appears that when we

> fight

> > > > the

> > > >> > > > Bartonella in addition to using things that kill many

> > species

> > > > of

> > > >> > > > bacteria, then we get more progress. Thus, I think that

> as

> > > > much

> > > >> > as

> > > >> > > > they say to kill Bartonella first so the lyme will be

> able

> > to

> > > > be

> > > >> > > > killed, I am thinking that killing the lyme/mycoplasma

> > > >> > simultaneously

> > > >> > > > may be absolutely necessary to rid Bartonella. I am

> > > > beginning to

> > > >> > see

> > > >> > > > that things like Smilax and Grapefruit seed extract are

> > > > really

> > > >> > > > helping my family due to their ability to kill a broad

> > range

> > > > of

> > > >> > > > pathogens. I am amazed at how well they work as

> compared

> > to

> > > >> > things

> > > >> > > > that are more selective in killing only some pathogens.

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > Love and prayers,

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > Heidi

> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > >

> > > >> >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >