Re: Chelation while treating Lyme?/LIMIN

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Limin

From your understanding, why dr.K and Dr.DA prefer chelator caEDTA,

chilanto, or chlorella rather than culter's protocol?

thanks

Betty

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> Subject: Re:

Chelation while treating Lyme?

> To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

> Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 5:05 AM

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>

> Sandi,

>

> I cannot answer to the chelation/Valkion question. But I

chelate my son

> while treating him for Lyme, coinfections, and viruses. I

feel that

> antimicrobial and/or antiviral treatments make chelation

more effective. Be

> sure to have anti-fungal, toxin moppers, and good support

of detox organs or

> drainage on board.

>

> Limin

>

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> From: " recovering_ aidan " <recovering_aidan@ yahoo.com>

> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 19:57

> To: <BorreliaMultipleInf ectionsAndAutism @yahoogroups. com>

> Subject: [borreliaMultipleIn fectionsAndAutis m] Chelation

while treating

> Lyme?

>

> > Are most of you chelating (if metals are still being

pulled) your

> > children while treating the Lyme? Is there anything that

I should be

> > cautious about? And chelating with the Valkion? Any

issues there?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Sandi

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sorry, not Limin but I can answer this.

It's not neccesarily that they prefer the other chelators, as they

ART test all of the chelators on the body and see which one the

individuals body wants most. 's 1st chelation dr followed

Cutler's protocol with provoked UTM's being done with DMPS

injections. At one point tested highest on DMSA so she

prescribed it. Others I know have used DMPS (which I understand DK

brought to this country). So the answer to this ? is it depends on

the individual child and the circumstance.

Now when doing the LDM-100 and other forms of viral detox, the

reason they recommend a more milder chelator is because you do not

want to overload the body and detox pathways with strong chelators

trying to pull heavier loads of metals while also killing/detoxing

viruses. At these times you just want to make sure the chelators are

acting as a binder to grab the metals as the anti-viral detox

releases the metal with the killing of the cell & subsequent

reduction of cell inflamation....so your purpose in chelating at

these times is just binding and keeping the released toxin from

redistributing, not pulling large amounts of metals.

Hope this makes sence.

Rita

> >

> > From: Limin Tseng <limin@>

> > Subject: Re:

> Chelation while treating Lyme?

> > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

> > Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 5:05 AM

> >

> >

> > Sandi,

> >

> > I cannot answer to the chelation/Valkion question. But I

> chelate my son

> > while treating him for Lyme, coinfections, and viruses.

I

> feel that

> > antimicrobial and/or antiviral treatments make chelation

> more effective. Be

> > sure to have anti-fungal, toxin moppers, and good

support

> of detox organs or

> > drainage on board.

> >

> > Limin

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --

> > From: " recovering_ aidan " <recovering_aidan@ yahoo.com>

> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 19:57

> > To: <BorreliaMultipleInf ectionsAndAutism @yahoogroups.

com>

> > Subject: [borreliaMultipleIn fectionsAndAutis m]

Chelation

> while treating

> > Lyme?

> >

> > > Are most of you chelating (if metals are still being

> pulled) your

> > > children while treating the Lyme? Is there anything

that

> I should be

> > > cautious about? And chelating with the Valkion? Any

> issues there?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Sandi

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to chime in and say my son is mostly recovered from autism and 100% cured of chemical sensitivity through Andy Cutler chelation. We stopped before we were finished, after 8 months.

[Guest guest]

Betty,

I agree with Rita's explanation below. In addition, I want to make a note

that in my opinion Dr. K is indeed big with chlorella. In several

occasions, he mentioned that chlorella is very under-utilized in this

country. He actually recommended that the toxic, nursing mothers take

chlorella up to a dosage that allows their breast milk to turn slightly

green color. In another words, feed the infants the nutrients of chlorella

in the mother's green milk to prevent toxins from breast milk accumulating

in the baby's body.

A better term to describe the use of chlorella is " detoxification " , not

" chelation " . Chlorella not only binds to metal toxins, but it also binds to

other toxins such as biotoxins, pesticides, or industrial chemicals.

As for AC protocol, Ingvar had good metal pulls with ALA/DMSA/NDF. But,

after 2 years of being on AC's frequent dosing schedule, my husband and I

got very exhaustive and had a need to take a break form it to take care of

our own health. I do plan to resume using ALA soon. ALA used to be

Ingvar's major source of sulfur, which is responsible for the ionic exchange

within the sodium-potassium pump in the cell. I suspect that Ingvar's

recent decreasing levels of sodium has something to do with the fact that he

no longer takes ALA. ALA is good for maintaining cell membrane

permeability. This is important to ensure that nutrients are delivered into

the cell and toxins and waste products can exit the cell.

Limin

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Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 15:15

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Re: Chelation while treating

Lyme?/LIMIN

> Sorry, not Limin but I can answer this.

> It's not neccesarily that they prefer the other chelators, as they

> ART test all of the chelators on the body and see which one the

> individuals body wants most. 's 1st chelation dr followed

> Cutler's protocol with provoked UTM's being done with DMPS

> injections. At one point tested highest on DMSA so she

> prescribed it. Others I know have used DMPS (which I understand DK

> brought to this country). So the answer to this ? is it depends on

> the individual child and the circumstance.

> Now when doing the LDM-100 and other forms of viral detox, the

> reason they recommend a more milder chelator is because you do not

> want to overload the body and detox pathways with strong chelators

> trying to pull heavier loads of metals while also killing/detoxing

> viruses. At these times you just want to make sure the chelators are

> acting as a binder to grab the metals as the anti-viral detox

> releases the metal with the killing of the cell & subsequent

> reduction of cell inflamation....so your purpose in chelating at

> these times is just binding and keeping the released toxin from

> redistributing, not pulling large amounts of metals.

> Hope this makes sence.

> Rita

>

>

>

>> >

>> > From: Limin Tseng <limin@>

>> > Subject: Re:

>> Chelation while treating Lyme?

>> > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

>> > Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 5:05 AM

>> >

>> >

>> > Sandi,

>> >

>> > I cannot answer to the chelation/Valkion question. But I

>> chelate my son

>> > while treating him for Lyme, coinfections, and viruses.

> I

>> feel that

>> > antimicrobial and/or antiviral treatments make chelation

>> more effective. Be

>> > sure to have anti-fungal, toxin moppers, and good

> support

>> of detox organs or

>> > drainage on board.

>> >

>> > Limin

>> >

>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --

>> > From: " recovering_ aidan " <recovering_aidan@ yahoo.com>

>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 19:57

>> > To: <BorreliaMultipleInf ectionsAndAutism @yahoogroups.

> com>

>> > Subject: [borreliaMultipleIn fectionsAndAutis m]

> Chelation

>> while treating

>> > Lyme?

>> >

>> > > Are most of you chelating (if metals are still being

>> pulled) your

>> > > children while treating the Lyme? Is there anything

> that

>> I should be

>> > > cautious about? And chelating with the Valkion? Any

>> issues there?

>> > >

>> > > Thanks,

>> > > Sandi

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

>> > >

>> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Did you use DMSA or just ALA? Did you dose every 3 hours? I tried

to do ALA only on an 8 hour schedule, as per Danasview, on MYSELF and

had such a horrible jelly-head/brain-fog feeling at the end of a

round that I quit after 2 rounds. I have recently started OSR for

myself, but am not chelating my son at all right now. I would love a

little more feedback on the AC protocol from someone that does not

think mercury is the only causative.

Caryn

>

> Just wanted to chime in and say my son is mostly recovered from

autism and 100% cured of chemical sensitivity through Andy Cutler

chelation. We stopped before we were finished, after 8 months.

>

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