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, I agree with all of what you say, I do have AI reactions in my own body, my colon hurts thus my eye gets inflamed, and a direct correlation, but to excuse the infection and call these things friendly fire really seems to get the engineer in me boiling.On 1 Sep 2008, at 21:53, wrote:> > which is a type of autoimmune disease> haven't we all heard the AI theories> > Cpn is no AI disease.Lots of people in our spheres think AI is some kind of hoax, but itain't so. AI's not even a theory, really. At least some of theantibody-mediated AI diseases feature totally uncontroversial AI,demonstrated by pretty dang clear experiments, such as serum transferto mice, or serum transfer to tissue explants (such as a chunk ofthyroid saved from a dead dude, a thyroidectomy, or an animal). Graves' disease, pemphigus, and Myasthenia gravis are in this set ofdiseases with clearly symptomogenic antibodies. I may be leaving someout. Lupus I'm not sure about. I will admit I haven't scrutinized the methods of these findings myself.Non-antibody-mediated symptomogenic AI has been way harder to show, inman. It's easy to show in animals on which wicked experiments areallowed. Most people take this for significant evidence that similarresults would be found in man. I am not yet sure what I think about that.Also, it's very true that calling them AI diseases is problematic.This is just like the term "mental illness" -- which on one level, istotally accurate, but is totally misleading on another level.Obviously any given AI /could/ be caused by a chronic infection forall we know and could potentially be curable by eliminating infection. Actually it is /always/ problematic to come up with a termcharacterizing a disease or set of diseases, if we don't have a clueabout its headwaters, although "mental illness" is probably the worstspecimen. It's like trying to describe a novel object when a portionof it is shrouded -- you don't even know how much is hidden, let alone/what/ is hidden.

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