Re: cystoscopy in bladder, Upper GI, Lower GI colonoscopy all show series of inf

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> > which is a type of autoimmune disease

> haven't we all heard the AI theories

>

> Cpn is no AI disease.

Lots of people in our spheres think AI is some kind of hoax, but it

ain't so. AI's not even a theory, really. At least some of the

antibody-mediated AI diseases feature totally uncontroversial AI,

demonstrated by pretty dang clear experiments, such as serum transfer

to mice, or serum transfer to tissue explants (such as a chunk of

thyroid saved from a dead dude, a thyroidectomy, or an animal).

Graves' disease, pemphigus, and Myasthenia gravis are in this set of

diseases with clearly symptomogenic antibodies. I may be leaving some

out. Lupus I'm not sure about.

I will admit I haven't scrutinized the methods of these findings myself.

Non-antibody-mediated symptomogenic AI has been way harder to show, in

man. It's easy to show in animals on which wicked experiments are

allowed. Most people take this for significant evidence that similar

results would be found in man. I am not yet sure what I think about that.

Also, it's very true that calling them AI diseases is problematic.

This is just like the term " mental illness " -- which on one level, is

totally accurate, but is totally misleading on another level.

Obviously any given AI /could/ be caused by a chronic infection for

all we know and could potentially be curable by eliminating infection.

Actually it is /always/ problematic to come up with a term

characterizing a disease or set of diseases, if we don't have a clue

about its headwaters, although " mental illness " is probably the worst

specimen. It's like trying to describe a novel object when a portion

of it is shrouded -- you don't even know how much is hidden, let alone

/what/ is hidden.