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wow, Amy. That was an impressive video. The new Ent I saw thinks I have a fungal ball in my sinuses. Does anyone know if fungal balls produce green mucous like bacterial infections do?

While a fungal ball or fungal tissue invasion makes sense in my situation having grown up in the mold capital of the U.S. (oregon) and then living in a moldy house for 10 years, I'm still worried about this guy's hypothesis because he dismissed the fact that I feel worse when I go off antibiotics but don't notice the same kind of change when I go off antifungals.

Fortunately my immunologist believes that there's an underlying infection and that I'm not just getting inflammatory relief from the abx because the type of abx I'm on don't relieve inflammation. He instructed the ENT to do a tissue biopsy and culture for him, and the guy just dismissed the request with a laugh. He seemed pretty arrogant, another reason I don't trust his hypothesis.

It is possible that the bacterial infection I have won't die because of a fungal infection (ala Shoemaker's theory about the mold staph relationship). I need to go back and see the immunologist again before I decide what to do. That video was pretty compelling, but I still have to wonder why antibiotics are the only drugs that give me major relief. But perhaps I've answered my own question as per Shoemaker. It would just really suck to have yet another sinus surgery, go through months after of feeling lousy, to end up no better. :-(

Thanks again, Amy. I found that video extremely helpful in thinking about my own situation, as well as giving people a real look at what's going on with these fungal infections.

penny

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Thank you, Amy, for posting that. Interesting.

Penny, I would be furious if a physician laughed at the suggestion

that a culture be done. Hope you are able to find out what is what, soon.

Best,

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Hi Penny , i'm sorry to hear your still struggling

with your

sinus infection your a bit of a puzzle, green mucus indicates a

functioning

immune system .. i never produced green mucus with my sinus infection

just

clear, my infection was obviously fungi with bacteria as a co-infection

as you

point out the two coexist in many if not most chronic infections ..if

we hark

back to the mayo clinic’s study we see that neutrophils behave

strangely

towards fungi!! dunno..

What med and at what dose antifungal med do you take.. and why do you

not take

ARB's [read 's take on

autoimmune

diseases in the interview on the home page of my site] ..i know it took

mega

amounts of antifungal to get on top on my infection , 1000mg of

Terbinafine

for a week before i could throttle back to less worrying amounts of the

drug..

I say your a puzzle , i think i am too , Last year was mostly symptom

free of my

probable Lyme/Bartonella if you recall it was following a cold when my

activated IS addressed my long standing underling infection. It had

happened

before but in the past the symptoms always returned , this time the

effect was

long lived as i say most all of last year .I put the lasting effect

down to

taking multi vits and minerals together with quite large amounts of

brewers

yeast ...I felt a distinct benefit from the supps , if we are deficient

in

minerals and vits it leads to oxidative stress which in turn impacts on

our IS

....

Now after telling my GP just last week i was

symptom free i realised

that the old symptoms were returning headache, joints aching tiredness

etc; not

on the scale i experienced in the past but there never-the-less. That

was bourn

out by the amount of Doxy needed to relieve the symptoms just a couple

of days

at 100mg a day ...So how to interpret .Have I [lasting] antibodies! mid

winter lack of

vit D ..dunno , i'm open to suggestions..

http://www.yeast-candida-infections-uk.co.uk/

So

why is snot green?

Phlegm and snot actually come in a variety of hues, rather than just

green, although the colour can help to indicate the health of the

person producing it. The

phlegm of a healthy person is typically white or clear, although during

the early stages of a cold, which can also be the most contagious, the

phlegm can still be clear. Brown and brown-grey phlegms are common in

smokers and are caused by cigarette tar sticking to the mucus. Rusty

coloured phlegm or phlegm with rusty spots in it can be a sign of more

serious illness such as pneumonia or bleeding from an airway, which,

apart from infection, can also be a consequence of cancer. Then on to

the yellow and green phlegms. These typically indicate infection and in

some cases this can be severe; bronchitis, for example, is often

accompanied by green phlegm. But that still doesn’t quite answer the

question. Infections cause phlegm to change colour, but where does

that colour come from? The answer lies in the immune response and more

specifically a type of white blood cell called neutrophils.

When a

part of the body becomes infected it produces signals to alert the

immune system to the developing problem. Cells and other immune

components follow these signals by a process called chemotaxis to home

in on the affected area. In the case of colds, white blood cells called

neutrophils are amongst the first on the scene and arrive via the blood

stream. Upon arrival the neutrophils mount an attack. They attempt to

engulf (swallow) the pathogen (a virus in the case of colds) and at the

same time they produce antiseptic chemicals that wipe out other

pathogens nearby. These

chemicals are so potent that even the neutophils don't escape and are

destroyed, committing suicide to fight the spread of infection.

Generally, enzymes are responsible for the production of the antiseptic

chemicals and it is these that give mucus the green colour. Enzymes

often require ‘helpers’, called co-enzymes, to function properly and it

is more specifically the co-enzyme iron (ferrous form) that lends the

green colour to mucus. One such iron containing enzyme in neutrophils

is myeloperoxidase. Myeloperoxidase produces the antiseptic chemical

hypochlorous acid, the type of bleach commonly used to sanitise

swimming pools. Interestingly, it is similar iron containing enzymes

in wasabi that make it green too.

Penny Houle wrote:

wow, Amy. That was an impressive video. The new Ent I saw

thinks I have a fungal ball in my sinuses. Does anyone know if fungal

balls produce green mucous like bacterial infections do?

While a fungal ball or fungal tissue invasion makes sense

in my situation having grown up in the mold capital of the U.S.

(oregon) and then living in a moldy house for 10 years, I'm

still worried about this guy's hypothesis because he dismissed the fact

that I feel worse when I go off antibiotics but don't notice the same

kind of change when I go off antifungals.

Fortunately my immunologist believes that there's an

underlying infection and that I'm not just getting inflammatory relief

from the abx because the type of abx I'm on don't relieve inflammation.

He instructed the ENT to do a tissue biopsy and culture for him, and

the guy just dismissed the request with a laugh. He seemed pretty

arrogant, another reason I don't trust his hypothesis.

It is possible that the bacterial infection I have won't

die because of a fungal infection (ala Shoemaker's theory about the

mold staph relationship). I need to go back and see the

immunologist again before I decide what to do. That video was pretty

compelling, but I still have to wonder why antibiotics are the only

drugs that give me major relief. But perhaps I've answered my own

question as per Shoemaker. It would just really suck to have yet

another sinus surgery, go through months after of feeling lousy, to end

up no better. :-(

Thanks again, Amy. I found that video extremely helpful in

thinking about my own situation, as well as giving people a real look

at what's going on with these fungal infections.

penny

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wow , thanks for that information. I'm going to go back and read it more closely.

I've taken all kinds of afs. Lamisil for 6 or 9 mos. can't remember, and pretty much everything else. I'm taking ketoconazole right now, but I don't think it's doing much anymore. I also tried to go off abx after I did a cold turkey weaning for the ENT who was supposed to take a tissue sample for testing. He didn't do it, but I didn't feel as bad as I thought I would so I tried staying off the abx. Pretty soon I was waking up with thick stuff going down the back of my throat as my fatigue got worse. Occassionally I could blow some out and it was always yelloish green or greenish yellow, not sure. I went back on the abx (penicillin vk and cipro) and those symptoms cleared up.

I also took metrinozadole in a large dose some time back which was a HUGE mistake. My intestines have been messed up ever since which I think means I probably have some kind of co-infection that got activated. I should go back on it taking a fraction of the dose I started with but it made me so sick, I'm afraid, and keep putting it off.

Anyway, good luck to us both. Once I talk to the immunologist and get his take on things, I'll decide what to do about letting the guy go in looking for sinus balls.

I'll keep you posted.

penny

oh re: benicar. I took that for something like 2 years (my memory's getting fuzzy to the point I'm not sure without looking things up). I stopped having the good, anti-inflammatory effects and started losing my quad muscles. And my infection did not improve. I wasn't seeing any benefit, only harm at that point, so I stopped. My leg muscles are still messed up. I still have to get up off the floor using my arms. My legs won't support me. :-( It just wasn't worth being a guinea pig for an unproven protocol.

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its a well known one that some abx can induce campylobactor, (cure is cipro ironically) if colon is messed up after a course it is worth considering a test for opportunistic infections like campylobactor or just  a short 3 day corse of cipro to clear it.On 27 Feb 2009, at 21:23, Penny Houle wrote:wow , thanks for that information. I'm going to go back and read it more closely.   I've taken all kinds of afs. Lamisil for 6 or 9 mos. can't remember, and pretty much everything else. I'm taking ketoconazole right now, but I don't think it's doing much anymore. I also tried to go off abx after I did a cold turkey weaning for the ENT who was supposed to take a tissue sample for testing. He didn't do it, but I didn't feel as bad as I thought I would so I tried staying off the abx. Pretty soon I was waking up with thick stuff going down the back of my throat as my fatigue got worse. Occassionally I could blow some out and it was always yelloish green or greenish yellow, not sure. I went back on the abx (penicillin vk and cipro) and those symptoms cleared up.   I also took metrinozadole in a large dose some time back which was a HUGE mistake. My intestines have been messed up ever since which I think means I probably have some kind of co-infection that got activated. I should go back on it taking a fraction of the dose I started with but it made me so sick, I'm afraid, and keep putting it off.   Anyway, good luck to us both. Once I talk to the immunologist and get his take on things, I'll decide what to do about letting the guy go in looking for sinus balls.   I'll keep you posted.   penny   oh re: benicar. I took that for something like 2 years (my memory's getting fuzzy to the point I'm not sure without looking things up). I stopped having the good, anti-inflammatory effects and started losing my quad muscles. And my infection did not improve. I wasn't seeing any benefit, only harm at that point, so I stopped. My leg muscles are still messed up. I still have to get up off the floor using my arms. My legs won't support me. :-(  It just wasn't worth being a guinea pig for an unproven protocol. From: amydent9 <amydent9hotmail (DOT) com>Subject: [infectionAndInflam mation2] fungal sinus video /also EBV risk for nasophayngeal carcinomaInfectionAndInflamm ation2@grou ps.comDate: Monday, February 23, 2009, 11:28 AM http://www.sinusinf ectionhelp. com/fungal- sinus-infection. htmlsinusinfectionhelp. com/nasopharynge al_cancer. html

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I guess it would have to be a tough one because I've been on Cipro for a couple years now at least.

penny

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yes they can take advantage just when you stop if your still on then its not that ...On 27 Feb 2009, at 22:49, Penny Houle wrote:I guess it would have to be a tough one because I've been on Cipro for a couple years now at least. penny--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Agentbleu <colourbleufree (DOT) fr> wrote:From: Agentbleu <colourbleufree (DOT) fr>Subject: Re: [infections] fungal sinus video /also EBV risk for nasophayngeal carcinomainfections Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 12:30 PMits a well known one that some abx can induce campylobactor, (cure is cipro ironically) if colon is messed up after a course it is worth considering a test for opportunistic  infections like campylobactor or just  a short 3 day corse of cipro to clear it.On 27 Feb 2009, at 21:23, Penny Houle wrote:wow , thanks for that information. I'm going to go back and read it more closely. I've taken all kinds of afs. Lamisil for 6 or 9 mos. can't remember, and pretty much everything else. I'm taking ketoconazole right now, but I don't think it's doing much anymore. I also tried to go off abx after I did a cold turkey weaning for the ENT who was supposed to take a tissue sample for testing. He didn't do it, but I didn't feel as bad as I thought I would so I tried staying off the abx. Pretty soon I was waking up with thick stuff going down the back of my throat as my fatigue got worse. Occassionally I could blow some out and it was always yelloish green or greenish yellow, not sure. I went back on the abx (penicillin vk and cipro) and those symptoms cleared up. I also took metrinozadole in a large dose some time back which was a HUGE mistake. My intestines have been messed up ever since which I think means I probably have some kind of co-infection that got activated. I should go back on it taking a fraction of the dose I started with but it made me so sick, I'm afraid, and keep putting it off. Anyway, good luck to us both. Once I talk to the immunologist and get his take on things, I'll decide what to do about letting the guy go in looking for sinus balls. I'll keep you posted. penny oh re: benicar. I took that for something like 2 years (my memory's getting fuzzy to the point I'm not sure without looking things up). I stopped having the good, anti-inflammatory effects and started losing my quad muscles. And my infection did not improve. I wasn't seeing any benefit, only harm at that point, so I stopped. My leg muscles are still messed up. I still have to get up off the floor using my arms. My legs won't support me. :-(  It just wasn't worth being a guinea pig for an unproven protocol.--- On Wed, 2/25/09,  <paj8talktalk (DOT) net> wrote:From: <paj8talktalk (DOT) net>Subject: Re: [infectionAndInflam mation2] fungal sinus video /also EBV risk for nasophayngeal carcinomaTo: InfectionAndInflamm ation2@grou ps.comDate: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:56 AMHi Penny , i'm sorry to hear your still struggling with your sinus infection your a bit of a puzzle, green mucus indicates a functioning immune system .. i never produced green mucus with my sinus infection just clear, my infection was obviously fungi with bacteria as a co-infection as you point out the two coexist in many if not most chronic infections ..if we hark back to the mayo clinic’s study we see that neutrophils behave strangely towards fungi!! dunno..What med and at what dose antifungal med do you take.. and why do you not take ARB's [read 's take on autoimmune diseases in the interview on the home page of my site] ..i know it took mega amounts of antifungal to get on top on my infection ,  1000mg of Terbinafine for a week before i could throttle back to less worrying amounts of the drug.. I say your a puzzle , i think i am too , Last year was mostly symptom free of my probable Lyme/Bartonella if you recall it was following a cold when my activated IS addressed my long standing underling infection. It had happened before but in the past the symptoms always returned , this time the effect was long lived as i say most all of last year .I put the lasting effect down to taking multi vits and minerals together with quite large amounts of brewers yeast ...I felt a distinct benefit from the supps , if we are deficient in minerals and vits it leads to oxidative stress which in turn impacts on our IS ...  Now after telling my GP just last week i was symptom free i realised that the old symptoms were returning headache, joints aching tiredness etc; not on the scale i experienced in the past but there never-the-less. That was bourn out by the amount of Doxy needed to relieve the symptoms just a couple of days at 100mg a day ...So how to interpret .Have I [lasting] antibodies! mid winter lack of vit D ..dunno , i'm open to suggestions. .http://www.yeast- candida-infectio ns-uk.co. uk/ So why is snot green?Phlegm and snot actually come in a variety of hues, rather than just green, although the colour can help to indicate the health of the person producing it. <mime-attachment. jpeg>The phlegm of a healthy person is typically white or clear, although during the early stages of a cold, which can also be the most contagious, the phlegm can still be clear.  Brown and brown-grey phlegms are common in smokers and are caused by cigarette tar sticking to the mucus.  Rusty coloured phlegm or phlegm with rusty spots in it can be a sign of more serious illness such as pneumonia or bleeding from an airway, which, apart from infection, can also be a consequence of cancer. Then on to the yellow and green phlegms. These typically indicate infection and in some cases this can be severe; bronchitis, for example, is often accompanied by green phlegm.  But that still doesn’t quite answer the question.  Infections cause phlegm to change colour, but where does that colour come from?  The answer lies in the immune response and more specifically a type of white blood cell called neutrophils.When a part of the body becomes infected it produces signals to alert the immune system to the developing problem. Cells and other immune components follow these signals by a process called chemotaxis to home in on the affected area. In the case of colds, white blood cells called neutrophils are amongst the first on the scene and arrive via the blood stream. Upon arrival the neutrophils mount an attack. They attempt to engulf (swallow) the pathogen (a virus in the case of colds) and at the same time they produce antiseptic chemicals that wipe out other pathogens nearby.  <mime-attachment. jpeg>These chemicals are so potent that even the neutophils don' t escape and are destroyed, committing suicide to fight the spread of infection.  Generally, enzymes are responsible for the production of the antiseptic chemicals and it is these that give mucus the green colour.  Enzymes often require ‘helpers’, called co-enzymes, to function properly and it is more specifically the co-enzyme iron (ferrous form) that lends the green colour to mucus.  One such iron containing enzyme in neutrophils is myeloperoxidase.  Myeloperoxidase produces the antiseptic chemical hypochlorous acid, the type of bleach commonly used to sanitise swimming pools.  Interestingly, it is similar iron containing enzymes in wasabi that make it green too.Penny Houle wrote:wow, Amy. That was an impressive video. The new Ent I saw thinks I have a fungal ball in my sinuses. Does anyone know if fungal balls produce green mucous like bacterial infections do? While a fungal ball or fungal tissue invasion makes sense in my situation having grown up in the mold capital of the U.S. (oregon) and then living in a moldy house for 10 years, I'm still worried about this guy's hypothesis  because he dismissed the fact that I feel worse when I go off antibiotics but don't notice the same kind of change when I go off antifungals. Fortunately my immunologist believes that there's an underlying infection and that I'm not just getting inflammatory relief from the abx because the type of abx I'm on don't relieve inflammation. He instructed the ENT to do a tissue biopsy and culture for him, and the guy just dismissed the request with a laugh. He seemed pretty arrogant, another reason I don't trust his hypothesis. It is possible that the bacterial infection I have won't die because of a fungal infection (ala Shoemaker's theory about the mold staph relationship) . I need to go back and see the immunologist again before I decide what to do. That video was pretty compelling, but I still have to wonder why antibiotics are the only drugs that give me major relief.  But perhaps I've answered my own question as per Shoemaker. It would just really suck to have yet another sinus surgery, go through months after of feeling lousy, to end up no better. :-( Thanks again, Amy. I found that video extremely helpful in thinking about my own situation, as well as giving people a real look at what's going on with these fungal infections. penny--- On Mon, 2/23/09, amydent9 <amydent9hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:From: amydent9 <amydent9hotmail (DOT) com>Subject: [infectionAndInflam mation2] fungal sinus video /also EBV risk for nasophayngeal carcinomaInfectionAndInflamm ation2@grou ps.comDate: Monday, February 23, 2009, 11:28 AMhttp://www.sinusinf ectionhelp. com/fungal- sinus-infection. htmlsinusinfectionhelp. com/nasopharynge al_cancer. htmlNo virus found in this incoming message.

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Well that’s fairly conclusive for a bacterial

infection

....you may wish to look at the test i included in this post to an

autism forum

...Ive read other warning reports on Flagyl , its interesting as to what

has happened

to your gut flora . the book says with reduced bacteria yeast will

flourish but

i assume you’ve considered that ..there's also mycoplasmal bacteria

that has been

implicated with gut problems.

I'm once again symptom

free ..i expect i will need to treat with Doxy in a week or two's time

... if so

i can live quite happily with that. Good luck with your docs ...

"We

just got the lab results back from the GI specialist and norm

for sedimentation rates are 0-10. Connor’s was elevated at

24. I have read on line about possible causes. Has anyone else gone

through this and what happened? Thanks."

C-reactive protein

(CRP) and

erythrocyte sedimentation rate (ESR) are tests

that are used

to measure inflammation and as an indicator of trauma such as infection

....ESR is increased in

rheumatoid diseases, most

infections, and in cancer. An advanced rate doesn't diagnose a specific

disease, but it does indicate that an underlying disease may be

present. [search;

infection rheumatoid

arthritis ] your child’s results back up my and many others

findings

that autism is an extensive infection

http://www.health.upenn.edu/ortho/oj/2002/html/oj15sp02p13.html

Penny Houle wrote:

wow , thanks for that information. I'm going to go

back and read it more closely.

I've taken all kinds of afs. Lamisil for 6 or 9 mos. can't

remember, and pretty much everything else. I'm taking ketoconazole

right now, but I don't think it's doing much anymore. I also tried to

go off abx after I did a cold turkey weaning for the ENT who was

supposed to take a tissue sample for testing. He didn't do it, but I

didn't feel as bad as I thought I would so I tried staying off the abx.

Pretty soon I was waking up with thick stuff going down the back of my

throat as my fatigue got worse. Occassionally I could blow some out and

it was always yelloish green or greenish yellow, not sure. I went back

on the abx (penicillin vk and cipro) and those symptoms cleared up.

I also took metrinozadole in a large dose some time

back which was a HUGE mistake. My intestines have been messed up ever

since which I think means I probably have some kind of co-infection

that got activated. I should go back on it taking a fraction of the

dose I started with but it made me so sick, I'm afraid, and keep

putting it off.

Anyway, good luck to us both. Once I talk to the

immunologist and get his take on things, I'll decide what to do about

letting the guy go in looking for sinus balls.

I'll keep you posted.

penny

oh re: benicar. I took that for something like 2 years (my

memory's getting fuzzy to the point I'm not sure without looking things

up). I stopped having the good, anti-inflammatory effects and started

losing my quad muscles. And my infection did not improve. I wasn't

seeing any benefit, only harm at that point, so I stopped. My leg

muscles are still messed up. I still have to get up off the floor using

my arms. My legs won't support me. :-( It just wasn't worth being a

guinea pig for an unproven protocol.

wow, Amy. That was an impressive video. The new

Ent I saw thinks I have a fungal ball in my sinuses. Does anyone know

if fungal balls produce green mucous like bacterial infections do?

While a fungal ball or fungal tissue invasion

makes sense in my situation having grown up in the mold capital of the

U.S. (oregon) and then living in a moldy house for 10 years, I'm

still worried about this guy's hypothesis because he dismissed the fact

that I feel worse when I go off antibiotics but don't notice the same

kind of change when I go off antifungals.

Fortunately my immunologist believes that

there's an underlying infection and that I'm not just getting

inflammatory relief from the abx because the type of abx I'm on don't

relieve inflammation. He instructed the ENT to do a tissue biopsy and

culture for him, and the guy just dismissed the request with a laugh.

He seemed pretty arrogant, another reason I don't trust his hypothesis.

It is possible that the bacterial infection I

have won't die because of a fungal infection (ala Shoemaker's theory

about the mold staph relationship) . I need to go back and see the

immunologist again before I decide what to do. That video was pretty

compelling, but I still have to wonder why antibiotics are the only

drugs that give me major relief. But perhaps I've answered my own

question as per Shoemaker. It would just really suck to have yet

another sinus surgery, go through months after of feeling lousy, to end

up no better. :-(

Thanks again, Amy. I found that video extremely

helpful in thinking about my own situation, as well as giving people a

real look at what's going on with these fungal infections.

penny

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