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Gayatri...that's one thing we haven't done is the Yasko testing. I feel that we've done just about everything else. But I'll get some curcumin and muscle test him for it to see if it'll work for him. We started on the TheaNaq today from NeuroScience. BTW - I'm sorry to the group, I'm WAY behind on my e-mail.

Tami

Re: neurotransmitters and hormones

Tami have you done the Yasko genetics? She says if you have a CBS

mutation that could cause the high taurine and high ammonia, and

taking curcumin would shift the cycle from taurine towards GSH.

"The use of curcumin to help shift the emphasis toward glutathione

rather than taurine, as well as ammonia support for those individuals

with CBS up regulations may help in this balance. Once taurine and

ammonia levels are under better control, the use of GSH can directly

support glutathione levels as well as helping in the early steps of

the TCA/Krebs cycle (GSH is important to move the cycle past citric

and isocitric). Keep in mind that glutathione does contain sulfur as

well as a glutamate, so more is not necessarily better, as you know I

like to use moderation. Also remember that NADH is needed to help to

recycle glutathione. As noted above, NADPH plays a direct role in the

MTRR reaction, so it is important to think about supplementing with

NADH when using glutathione. EDTA in low doses may also help to shift

the emphasis away from CDO and taurine formation and toward GCL and

glutathione synthesis (BRENDA entry 1.13.11.20)."

Unsure how this fits in with your total picture but I saw your

supplementation was providing additional taurine on top of what you

already have. I am sure there is a good explanation for it.

Gayatri

>

> I wanted to start a new thread to give our update after receiving

our neurotransmitter and hormone results from NeuroScience.? I thought

it would be a week or so before I talked to the doctor about it, but

we did an inpromtu appointment yesterday and went over them.? I'm just

posting for educational purposes here and will try to get the details

right.? As I posted before, I need to learn more about the

neurotransmitters and am not an expert.? I think that Limin has a

great amount of knowledge as she called our results accurately.

>

> Hormones - All normal for his age (12) and sexual developmental

stage.? He is entering puberty, I would say between Tanner stage 1 and

2. (meaning a few hairs down there.? : ) )

>

> Progesterone and Cortisol were VERY?low - this indicates a problem

with this pathway since the progesterone is not enough to release

cortisol..this can be from stess, ANS dysfunction, sugar and

infections according to Dr. TW. The ones we need to look at would be

sugar intake and ANS/infections are always in the works.?? Do not need

to do any supplementation here.

>

> Neurotransmitters

>

> Epinephrine

> Norepinephrine????? both too high which would cause less attention

and decreased focus?? (yep that fits lately, not enough to look like

adhd but enough to be super annoying)

>

> Dopamine - high

> DOPAC - high

> Seratonin high

> 5-HIAA - ?normal but could rise a bit

> Glycine - high

> Taurine - VERY HIGH

> Glutamine - VERY HIGH

> Glutamate - high

> aspartic acid - normal

> Tyramine - VERY HIGH

> PEA - Urine - high

> Histamine - high?

>

> Bottom line----the areas that are high such as dopamine, seratonin,

glycine and taurine because they are overproducing to handle the

glutamate and glutamine issue, and the allergy state that is

in.? (histamine).??? The glutamate he feels is being produced in the

gut and we need to RE-VISIT the GI issues.? (uggh..been doing that for

5 years now!)?? I will admit that lately I've let a bit more sugar

come into the diet and need to be better about the fruit and veggies.??

>

> NeuroScience provides comments and recommendations for the report.?

They recommend certain products that they sell. I have heard very good

things about their products.?? I will tell you the recommendations

from NeuroScience and then what Dr. TW feels we should do.

>

> NeuroScience recommendations

>

> Calm PRT Jr.

> Kavinace

> TravaCor

> EndoTrex - a liquid lipoomal formula that contains theanine.?

Theanine blocks glutamate activity.? EndoTrex is available in both

citrus and root beer flavored sprays.

>

> Dr. TW recommendations

>

> #1 priority - TheaNaq - this is a theanine supplement to lower

glutamate in a capsule.? He didn't like the flavoring issue with the

EndoTrex spray.? This is a similar product to endotrex but in capsule

form.? Since my son is 12, he can swallow capsules.?

https://www.neurorelief.com/index.php?option=com_content & task=view & id=373 & Itemid=47

>

> #2 priority (after 3 weeks on TheaNaq to track progress)_ Calm PRT

jr -

https://www.neurorelief.com/index.php?option=com_content & task=view & id=98 & Itemid=47

>

> #3 priority of the levels haven't balanced after 6 weeks then we

would add in Kavinace? which supports GABA inhibitory

neurotransmission with taurine and 4-amin - 3 phenylbutryic acid.?

https://www.neurorelief.com/index.php?option=com_content & task=view & id=121 & Itemid=47

>

> If you all remember, my son was having delusional behavior and this

motivated me to get these tests.?? Just wanted to share.? I'll let you

know how the treatment goes.? I asked Dr. TW if we were just

"patching" and he said no...we work primarily on causation but this

will help to balance him out in the meantime until we catch up.?? I

also want to note that with the above imbalances in neurotransmitters,

my son is doing very well.? A big anxious, and hyper but about it.

>

> Take care,

>

> Tami Duncan

> www.liafoundationorg

>

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