Re: ILADS report. Study will test for XMRV in ticks, among other things

[Guest guest]

Excellent summary, Al.

I am particularly glad to hear Dr. Horowitz's theory of this being a multi-infectious disease syndrome. It's more than just lyme that many people are suffering from.

And if that mixture of herbs can truly destroy bio-films, that's huge. I'm going to look into it because I truly believe that my (and many others') sinuses are not receptive to antimcrobial therapy because the bio-films are too firmly entrenched.

thanks Al,

penny

From: Al Melillo <melillo3@...>Subject: [infections] ILADS report. Study will test for XMRV in ticks, among other things"I & I Group" <infections >Date: Sunday, October 31, 2010, 3:54 PM

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[CO-CURE] NOT, RES: ILADS report. Study will test for XMRV in ticks, among other things

Date:

Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:58:32 -0700

From:

Wales <samologist@...>

Reply-

Wales <samologist@...>

CO-CURE@...This is apparently a report from another report, but I was not able to

display the other report in my browsers.

===

I was only able to watch a small part through the live Webcast so it

was great to read Forsgren's summary.

The slides from the event are available for purchase here for a very

reasonable $40. The DVDs (Friday's sessions) and CDs of the

presentations can be obtained from ZenWorks Productions .

Below are just a tiny selection that caught my eye from 's

excellent blog post.

Dr. Horowitz proposed that Chronic Lyme is really MCIDS -

Multiple Chronic Infectious Disease Syndrome

Dr. Joe Burrascano shared: New pathogens will likely continue to be

discovered such as XMRV / HGRV

and

In chronic Lyme patients, 100% may be XMRV / HGRV positive

Eva Sapi, PhD talked about the many exciting projects that her team is

doingThey are looking for XMRV in ticks to see if the retrovirus may

be transmitted by tick exposure

They did some excellent research showing Samento + Banderol +

Serrapeptase (all from NutraMedix) had very significant biofilm

eliminating effects

Dr. Joe Brewer spoke on the topic of XMRV:

In one autism study, all mothers tested were XMRV positive and many of

them expressed symptoms of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Fibromyalgia

In a small sample of MS (4), Parkinson's (1), and ALS (1) patients,

100% of those tested were positive for XMRV

In chronic Lyme disease, over 90% of those tested were positive for XMRV

During Q & A, Dr. Fishman acknowledged the politics involved in Lyme

disease. He suggested that XMRV may be the pathway that we should

pursue in order to benefit ourselves

But much much more at Better Health Guy here

-- http://www.wellsphere.com/lyme-disease-article/lyme-and-xmrv-at-ilads-conference/1265646

===

-- Q: How many CDC "scientists" does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: "You only think it's dark." [CDC has denied a deadly serious

disease for 25 years]

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[Guest guest]

Penny Penny Penny.

Every month or so I have a bit of a read over here. this xmrv virus is a long

shot IMO.Fatigue ilnesses are red blood cell ilnesses. Red blood cell parasites

in malaria give them fatigue, red blood cell parasites in chronic fatigue, are

the fatigue. Sinus infections are the red cell parasites, in some cases the

barrier between the sinus and the brain is also breached.The reason why you have

the problem occuring in the sinus is because the CO2's that are expelled from

the body are a large requirement for the parasite to perform it's dirty work ..

We also have clear evidence, and many times from personal experience, that

environment and diet play a large part in all autoimmune ilnesses.. We know if

we don't feed the bugs they won't intoxicate us. viruses and toxins are

possably being viewed as the same thing IMO.

cheers Tony

>

>

> From: Al Melillo <melillo3@...>

> Subject: [infections] ILADS report. Study will test for XMRV in

ticks, among other things

> " I & I Group " <infections >

> Date: Sunday, October 31, 2010, 3:54 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

>

> ---

> [CO-CURE] NOT, RES: ILADS report. Study will test for XMRV in ticks, among

other things

>

> Date:

> Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:58:32 -0700

>

> From:

> Wales <samologist@...>

>

> Reply-To:

> Wales <samologist@...>

>

> To:

> CO-CURE@...

>

> This is apparently a report from another report, but I was not able to

> display the other report in my browsers.

>

>

>

> ===

>

> I was only able to watch a small part through the live Webcast so it

> was great to read Forsgren's summary.

>

> The slides from the event are available for purchase here for a very

> reasonable $40. The DVDs (Friday's sessions) and CDs of the

> presentations can be obtained from ZenWorks Productions .

>

> Below are just a tiny selection that caught my eye from 's

> excellent blog post.

>

> Dr. Horowitz proposed that Chronic Lyme is really MCIDS -

> Multiple Chronic Infectious Disease Syndrome

>

> Dr. Joe Burrascano shared: New pathogens will likely continue to be

> discovered such as XMRV / HGRV

> and

> In chronic Lyme patients, 100% may be XMRV / HGRV positive

>

> Eva Sapi, PhD talked about the many exciting projects that her team is

> doingThey are looking for XMRV in ticks to see if the retrovirus may

> be transmitted by tick exposure

> They did some excellent research showing Samento + Banderol +

> Serrapeptase (all from NutraMedix) had very significant biofilm

> eliminating effects

>

> Dr. Joe Brewer spoke on the topic of XMRV:

> In one autism study, all mothers tested were XMRV positive and many of

> them expressed symptoms of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Fibromyalgia

> In a small sample of MS (4), Parkinson's (1), and ALS (1) patients,

> 100% of those tested were positive for XMRV

> In chronic Lyme disease, over 90% of those tested were positive for XMRV

>

> During Q & A, Dr. Fishman acknowledged the politics involved in Lyme

> disease. He suggested that XMRV may be the pathway that we should

> pursue in order to benefit ourselves

>

> But much much more at Better Health Guy here

>

> --

http://www.wellsphere.com/lyme-disease-article/lyme-and-xmrv-at-ilads-conference\

/1265646

>

> ===

>

>

>

> --

> Q: How many CDC " scientists " does it take to change a lightbulb?

> A: " You only think it's dark. " [CDC has denied a deadly serious

> disease for 25 years]

> ==========

> Retrovirus: http://www.wpinstitute.org/xmrv/index.html -- PLEASE DONATE

> ===

> I would like to see the original Lo et al. 2010 NIH/FDA/Harvard XMRV paper.

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tony!

That was really well said. Glad to hear that you continue to be healthy and are

thriving!

penny

> >

> >

> > From: Al Melillo <melillo3@>

> > Subject: [infections] ILADS report. Study will test for XMRV

in ticks, among other things

> > " I & I Group " <infections >

> > Date: Sunday, October 31, 2010, 3:54 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---

> > [CO-CURE] NOT, RES: ILADS report. Study will test for XMRV in ticks, among

other things

> >

> > Date:

> > Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:58:32 -0700

> >

> > From:

> > Wales <samologist@>

> >

> > Reply-To:

> > Wales <samologist@>

> >

> > To:

> > CO-CURE@

> >

> > This is apparently a report from another report, but I was not able to

> > display the other report in my browsers.

> >

> >

> >

> > ===

> >

> > I was only able to watch a small part through the live Webcast so it

> > was great to read Forsgren's summary.

> >

> > The slides from the event are available for purchase here for a very

> > reasonable $40. The DVDs (Friday's sessions) and CDs of the

> > presentations can be obtained from ZenWorks Productions .

> >

> > Below are just a tiny selection that caught my eye from 's

> > excellent blog post.

> >

> > Dr. Horowitz proposed that Chronic Lyme is really MCIDS -

> > Multiple Chronic Infectious Disease Syndrome

> >

> > Dr. Joe Burrascano shared: New pathogens will likely continue to be

> > discovered such as XMRV / HGRV

> > and

> > In chronic Lyme patients, 100% may be XMRV / HGRV positive

> >

> > Eva Sapi, PhD talked about the many exciting projects that her team is

> > doingThey are looking for XMRV in ticks to see if the retrovirus may

> > be transmitted by tick exposure

> > They did some excellent research showing Samento + Banderol +

> > Serrapeptase (all from NutraMedix) had very significant biofilm

> > eliminating effects

> >

> > Dr. Joe Brewer spoke on the topic of XMRV:

> > In one autism study, all mothers tested were XMRV positive and many of

> > them expressed symptoms of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Fibromyalgia

> > In a small sample of MS (4), Parkinson's (1), and ALS (1) patients,

> > 100% of those tested were positive for XMRV

> > In chronic Lyme disease, over 90% of those tested were positive for XMRV

> >

> > During Q & A, Dr. Fishman acknowledged the politics involved in Lyme

> > disease. He suggested that XMRV may be the pathway that we should

> > pursue in order to benefit ourselves

> >

> > But much much more at Better Health Guy here

> >

> > --

http://www.wellsphere.com/lyme-disease-article/lyme-and-xmrv-at-ilads-conference\

/1265646

> >

> > ===

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Q: How many CDC " scientists " does it take to change a lightbulb?

> > A: " You only think it's dark. " [CDC has denied a deadly serious

> > disease for 25 years]

> > ==========

> > Retrovirus: http://www.wpinstitute.org/xmrv/index.html -- PLEASE DONATE

> > ===

> > I would like to see the original Lo et al. 2010 NIH/FDA/Harvard XMRV paper.

> >

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>

[Guest guest]

Penny

That was written without the influence of alcohol.

I realise the importance of attacking the source of the problem until the body

heals completely. THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ON THESE SITES HAVE A NECK AND HEAD

AREA RESEMBLING ENDOMETREOSIS.Everything is battered and burnt and doesn't flow

well.Hence thyroid issues, very poor lymphatic performance.

Whippy do for the latest research. BORING!!!!

In order to get your life back you need to keep the problem area's shrinking and

healing.

cheers

> > >

> > >

> > > From: Al Melillo <melillo3@>

> > > Subject: [infections] ILADS report. Study will test for

XMRV in ticks, among other things

> > > " I & I Group " <infections >

> > > Date: Sunday, October 31, 2010, 3:54 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---

> > > [CO-CURE] NOT, RES: ILADS report. Study will test for XMRV in ticks, among

other things

> > >

> > > Date:

> > > Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:58:32 -0700

> > >

> > > From:

> > > Wales <samologist@>

> > >

> > > Reply-To:

> > > Wales <samologist@>

> > >

> > > To:

> > > CO-CURE@

> > >

> > > This is apparently a report from another report, but I was not able to

> > > display the other report in my browsers.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ===

> > >

> > > I was only able to watch a small part through the live Webcast so it

> > > was great to read Forsgren's summary.

> > >

> > > The slides from the event are available for purchase here for a very

> > > reasonable $40. The DVDs (Friday's sessions) and CDs of the

> > > presentations can be obtained from ZenWorks Productions .

> > >

> > > Below are just a tiny selection that caught my eye from 's

> > > excellent blog post.

> > >

> > > Dr. Horowitz proposed that Chronic Lyme is really MCIDS -

> > > Multiple Chronic Infectious Disease Syndrome

> > >

> > > Dr. Joe Burrascano shared: New pathogens will likely continue to be

> > > discovered such as XMRV / HGRV

> > > and

> > > In chronic Lyme patients, 100% may be XMRV / HGRV positive

> > >

> > > Eva Sapi, PhD talked about the many exciting projects that her team is

> > > doingThey are looking for XMRV in ticks to see if the retrovirus may

> > > be transmitted by tick exposure

> > > They did some excellent research showing Samento + Banderol +

> > > Serrapeptase (all from NutraMedix) had very significant biofilm

> > > eliminating effects

> > >

> > > Dr. Joe Brewer spoke on the topic of XMRV:

> > > In one autism study, all mothers tested were XMRV positive and many of

> > > them expressed symptoms of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Fibromyalgia

> > > In a small sample of MS (4), Parkinson's (1), and ALS (1) patients,

> > > 100% of those tested were positive for XMRV

> > > In chronic Lyme disease, over 90% of those tested were positive for XMRV

> > >

> > > During Q & A, Dr. Fishman acknowledged the politics involved in Lyme

> > > disease. He suggested that XMRV may be the pathway that we should

> > > pursue in order to benefit ourselves

> > >

> > > But much much more at Better Health Guy here

> > >

> > > --

http://www.wellsphere.com/lyme-disease-article/lyme-and-xmrv-at-ilads-conference\

/1265646

> > >

> > > ===

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > Q: How many CDC " scientists " does it take to change a lightbulb?

> > > A: " You only think it's dark. " [CDC has denied a deadly serious

> > > disease for 25 years]

> > > ==========

> > > Retrovirus: http://www.wpinstitute.org/xmrv/index.html -- PLEASE DONATE

> > > ===

> > > I would like to see the original Lo et al. 2010 NIH/FDA/Harvard XMRV

paper.

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------------------

> > > Send posts to CO-CURE@

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> > > opinion concerning medical, research and political aspects of ME/CFS

and/or

> > > FMS. We take no position on the validity of any specific scientific or

> > > political opinion expressed in Co-Cure posts, and we urge readers to

> > > research the various opinions available before assuming any one

> > > interpretation is definitive. The Co-Cure website <www.co-cure.org> has a

> > > link to our complete archive of posts as well as articles of central

> > > importance to the issues of our community.

> > > ---------------------------------------------

> > >

> >

>