Re: Honey bee decline

[Guest guest]

There's no link to your newsletter?

My doctor said she attended a conference on the subject and the most compelling explanation by those studying the phenomena of the decline in honey bees in the U.S., is the fact that massive numbers (of genetically altered bees) are shipped from the middle of the country to the west coast for crop pollination where they are not well adapted so die prematurely.

The ridiculous thing is that Mason Bees are native to the U.S. and are far more productive, pollinating 10x the amount of honey bees (which are not native to the U.S.), AND Mason Bees don't sting. What we need to do is start utilizing Mason Bees and stop screwing around with bees' genes that are not native to begin with.

I don't know about the antibiotic argument. The first level of abx denial is always to humans, not the food industry. All the propoganda about not using antibacterial hand cleansers, and not taking abx for colds and flus. Never hear any propganda about meat production being at fault for abx resistance. And honestly, a lot of the only research done on abx is in the agricultural/meat industry, since the general medical field can't handle the magnitude of antibiotic resistance and its effect on humans.

Humans use far fewer antibiotics than the meat industry does, and yet where do you think the emphasis on reduction will be? Not the food industry, too much $$ at stake. It will be imposed on gullible humans who can be talked into blaming themselves for antibiotic misuse. :-(

From: <paj8@...>Subject: [infections] Honey bee decline"infections" <infections >Date: Friday, September 3, 2010, 9:18 AM

Hello all , please read the site newsletter i issued a few days back , it's a fitting result for ten years research ,there's more info in the intro page of my site.. The test of any hypothesis is that it will stand up to any criticism..now it's published we'll see .RegardsWell, something good to report, a considerable breakthrough,Igave a presentation to the two top scientist at the national bee unit ..partof Fera Defra's research establishment near York. I was accompanied by a good friend and great supporter of my hypothesis.. The theme was theunforeseen new mechanism in the food chain whereby antibiotics promote immunesuppression in bees, other insects, animals and humans. In a nutshell thepresentation went very well, as well as I hoped in fact. From sceptics toconverts ..I've put a brief account on my site and the actual presentation[notes]. Obviously this

is a giant leap forward, the medical profession canhardly acknowledge the harmful effects of antibiotics whilst stillprescribing them so this support from such eminent men is very muchappreciated not to say valuable. What happens next is largely down to thepoliticians . Anyway, it's good to see some realism on this awful situationsurrounding autism and the decline of pollinating insects.Thank you all foryour interest. As they say I'll keep you all abreast of events. Regards Jaep

[Guest guest]

 

 Hi Penny ..Ah right, here it is   http://yeast-candida-infections-uk.co.uk/

 

    The FDA recently issued

new guidance to the livestock industry recommending they stop

using antibiotics as growth promoters.  http://www.voanews.com/english/news/usa/US-Antibiotic-Use-in-Livestock-Harms-People-98921789.html

The EU phased out this practice, stopping the sale of

antibiotic growth promoters (AGPs) on the 1st January 2006.

Despite the ban we in the UK use upwards of 350 tons of antibiotics

in "animal welfare"[figures from 2007] most of which end up in the

environment ..350 tons year upon year is probably the most effective

way to poison the environment .25mg of tetracycline  has a profound

effect on the average 130 pound human ..it doesn't take much

imagination to envisage what 350 tons in the environment will do to

insects ..Just to say on your point "gullible humans" if we dont

stop useing antibiotics as we presently are our society is finished

they represent the greatest threat to humanity ever. We currently

are in rapid terminal decline....We need to treat our waste so

antibiotics do not escape into the environment we also need to

restore gut flora following taking antibiotics , something we are

not able to do at present , i think i have the answer to that , but

with animals ,insects the situation is still uncertain ..we have all

but destroyed the relationship with our partner bacteria ,microbes

we have evolved with ..

On 03/09/2010 17:45, Penny Houle wrote:

 

There's no link to your newsletter?

 

My doctor said she attended a conference on

the subject and the most compelling explanation

by those studying the phenomena of the decline

in honey bees in the U.S., is the fact that

massive numbers (of genetically altered

bees) are shipped from the middle of the country

to the west coast for crop pollination where

they are not well adapted so die prematurely.

 

The ridiculous thing is that Mason Bees are

native to the U.S. and are far more productive,

pollinating 10x the amount of honey bees (which

are not native to the U.S.), AND Mason Bees

don't sting. What we need to do is

start utilizing Mason Bees and stop screwing

around with bees' genes that are not native to

begin with.  

 

I don't know about the antibiotic argument.

The first level of abx denial is always to

humans, not the food industry. All the

propoganda about not using antibacterial hand

cleansers, and not taking abx for colds and

flus. Never hear any propganda about meat

production being at fault for abx resistance.

And honestly, a lot of the only research done on

abx is in the agricultural/meat industry, since

the general medical field can't handle the

magnitude of antibiotic resistance and its

effect on humans.

 

Humans use far fewer antibiotics than the

meat industry does, and yet where do you think

the emphasis on reduction will be? Not the food

industry, too much $$ at stake. It will be

imposed on gullible humans who can be talked

into blaming themselves for antibiotic misuse.

:-(

 

 

--- On Fri, 9/3/10, <paj8@...>

wrote:

From: <paj8@...>

Subject: [infections] Honey bee

decline

"infections"

<infections >

Date: Friday, September 3, 2010, 9:18 AM

 

Hello all , please read the site

newsletter i issued a few days back ,

it's a fitting result for ten years

research ,there's more info in the

intro page of my site.. The test of any

hypothesis is that it will stand

up to any criticism..now it's published

we'll see .

Regards

Well, something good to report, a

considerable breakthrough,I

gave a presentation to the two top

scientist at the national bee unit

...part

of Fera Defra's research establishment

near York. I was accompanied by

a good friend and great supporter of

my hypothesis.. The theme was

the

unforeseen new mechanism in the food chain

whereby antibiotics promote

immune

suppression in bees, other insects,

animals and humans. In a nutshell the

presentation went very well, as well as I

hoped in fact. From sceptics to

converts ..I've put a brief account on my

site and the actual presentation

[notes]. Obviously this is a giant leap

forward, the medical profession can

hardly acknowledge the harmful effects of

antibiotics whilst still

prescribing them so this support from such

eminent men is very much

appreciated not to say valuable. What

happens next is largely down to the

politicians . Anyway, it's good to see

some realism on this awful situation

surrounding autism and the decline of

pollinating insects.Thank you all for

your interest. As they say I'll keep you

all abreast of events. Regards

Jaep

[Guest guest]

Exactly. Feeding animals tons of abx to get a few more pounds on them results

in additional big bucks. And that's where the mis-use is. And good luck

fighting the meat industry in the USA.

Barb

Penny wrote in part:

Humans use far fewer antibiotics than the meat industry does, and yet where do

you think the emphasis on reduction will be? Not the food industry, too much $$

at stake. It will be imposed on gullible humans who can be talked into blaming

themselves for antibiotic misuse. :-(

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> >

> >

> > From: <paj8@...>

> > Subject: [infections] Honey bee decline

> > " infections "

> > <infections >

> > Date: Friday, September 3, 2010, 9:18 AM

> >

> >

> > Hello all , please read the site newsletter i issued a few days

> > back ,

> > it's a fitting result for ten years research ,there's more info in

> > the

> > intro page of my site.. The test of any hypothesis is that it will

> > stand

> > up to any criticism..now it's published we'll see .

> > Regards

> >

> >

> > Well, something good to report, a considerable breakthrough,I

> > gave a presentation to the two top scientist at the national bee unit

> > ..part

> > of Fera Defra's research establishment near York. I was

> > accompanied by

> > a good friend and great supporter of my hypothesis.. The

> > theme was

> > the

> > unforeseen new mechanism in the food chain whereby antibiotics

> > promote

> > immune

> > suppression in bees, other insects, animals and humans. In a

> > nutshell the

> > presentation went very well, as well as I hoped in fact. From

> > sceptics to

> > converts ..I've put a brief account on my site and the actual

> > presentation

> > [notes]. Obviously this is a giant leap forward, the medical

> > profession can

> > hardly acknowledge the harmful effects of antibiotics whilst still

> > prescribing them so this support from such eminent men is very much

> > appreciated not to say valuable. What happens next is largely down

> > to the

> > politicians . Anyway, it's good to see some realism on this awful

> > situation

> > surrounding autism and the decline of pollinating insects.Thank

> > you all for

> > your interest. As they say I'll keep you all abreast of events.

> > Regards

> >

> > Jaep

> >

> >

>