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My neighbors son has has an underbite, and his parents took him for a

orthodontia consultation... the specialist told them that his jaw bone would

need to be cut to pull back his lower teeth and his upper jaw as well to reset

it forward...about $30 grand in surgery. Because he is still growing they won't

start on any of this till hes at least 20 or so...and he is 14 now.

What would Weston Price do? Is it possible to some how nutritionally adjust

this condition ? Mother breast fed for 3 years and they dont strike me as

major junk food eaters... never see the kids munching potato chips, sodas or

happy meal toys...

suggestions?

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> My neighbors son has has an underbite, and his parents took him

for a orthodontia consultation... the specialist told them that his

jaw bone would need to be cut to pull back his lower teeth and his

upper jaw as well to reset it forward...about $30 grand in surgery.

Because he is still growing they won't start on any of this till hes

at least 20 or so...and he is 14 now.

>

> What would Weston Price do? Is it possible to some how

nutritionally adjust this condition ? Mother breast fed for 3

years and they dont strike me as major junk food eaters... never see

the kids munching potato chips, sodas or happy meal toys...

suggestions?

Hi Panamabob!!!

First, the cause of the underbite is not what the child is eating.

According to Weston Price's evidence in NAPD it was what the parents

ate.

Second, it may be that food like the high nutritional food that

Price used in his experiments would help the child somewhat, but the

problem is that you aren't likely to find food on that level of

nutritional quality anywhere. As you know, agriculture has changed

in the past 60-70 years, and not for the better as far as the

nutritional value of food is concerned.

It's fine to talk about nutritionally dense food or high brix food.

Just try to find some.

The Pottenger Cats experiment demonstrated that it is possible to

grow a pole bean from a seed with the genetic defect of dwarfism, so

there would be hope to correct a genetic defect in humans with

nutrition too but the problem is the lack of food with the

nutritional level to accomplish it.

Even if food of the nutritional value comparable to the food Price

used were available, starting at 14 would do much less than starting

at birth.

This is just another example of why I suggest preventing these type

of problems is much better than trying to find a cure. Nutrition

would put dentists out of business (see NAPD).

Chi

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Ask him for a MSDS sheet for all the products he used. A dentist I went to (and

won't go to again) who was supposedly mercury- and fluoride-free used a bonding

product with fluoride in it and got all in a snit when I got on his case about

it when I found out after the fact.

S S

I am in the process of having a crown fitted. The dentist put a<br>

filling (core) into the tooth first because there is a large cavity.<br>

<br>

Although I go to a dentist, who on the whole doesn't use amalgam<br>

fillings, I am worried about this filling, because he did not use<br>

any light to harden it(but he also didn't seem to " pack the filling<br>

in " , like I remember from amalgam fillings in the past).<br>

<br>

Does anybody know, whether this indicates that he used an amalgam<br>

filling against my wishes? He said there are different materials for<br>

white fillings.<br>

<br>

At present I am having some trouble with the temporary filling (my<br>

guess is, that the temporary filling broke somehow or came loose<br>

although it doesn't seem to wobble at all or that something<br>

underneath broke or that somehow food managed to find a way under<br>

the filling)and there was also some " metally sort of taste " in my<br>

mouth today.<br>

<br>

Any comments?<br>

<br>

Thank you,<br>

<br>

Dagmar.<br>

<br>

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Hi Dagmar,

Go to the office and ask to look at your chart. Look at the date

you had it done and read what the dentist wrote. If it was an

amalgam it will say that, if it was composite it will say that.

If you read the chart and still aren't sure, ask for a copy of it,

and then e-mail me what it says and I will help you figure it out.

>

> Hi,

>

> I am in the process of having a crown fitted. The dentist put a

> filling (core) into the tooth first because there is a large

cavity.

>

> Although I go to a dentist, who on the whole doesn't use amalgam

> fillings, I am worried about this filling, because he did not use

> any light to harden it(but he also didn't seem to " pack the filling

> in " , like I remember from amalgam fillings in the past).

>

> Does anybody know, whether this indicates that he used an amalgam

> filling against my wishes? He said there are different materials

for

> white fillings.

>

> At present I am having some trouble with the temporary filling (my

> guess is, that the temporary filling broke somehow or came loose

> although it doesn't seem to wobble at all or that something

> underneath broke or that somehow food managed to find a way under

> the filling)and there was also some " metally sort of taste " in my

> mouth today.

>

> Any comments?

>

> Thank you,

>

> Dagmar.

>

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yep!

my 11 yr old had to have major dental work done when he was 4.5 yr old,

about the time

we started . Decay all around. His dentist did a wonderful job of

helping me research

alternatives to metal caps. He located polyresin crowns. All but 1

stayed on. We wanted

non-metal caps because we weren't sure what they were made of. Most have

trace amts

of nickel.

Now - on a slightly off subject - one of my cats had to have most of her

teeth pulled

when she was 3. I'd had her since she was 4 wks old and brushed her

teeth 2-3x week (it's easy

when you start them young). I asked the vet-dentist 'what happened?'

He explained that it was probably something in her immune system ....

hmmmm

My son's teeth are healthy. He doesn't eat alot of sugar and he brushes

2x day

doris

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eszbi5 <eszbi5>

Sun Jan 7, 2007 9:27 am (PST)

My bio son who does not have autism does not have some of his teeth and

never will because they are not there. I was told that it was genetic. I

should add that my aunt is missing 3 teeth as well. She has a bridge and

we are getting implants for when he is old enough. Sheri

Donna s <donnajohns@...

<mailto:donnajohns%40sbcglobal.net>> wrote: Has anyone come across

strange dental problems with their children that have ? My 7 year

old has been dx with Osteo imprefecta (no enamel on her teeth) then she

already has caps on some of her teeth and now we have discovered that

she has no perm teeth roots under these caps. So when they come out she

will be toothless in those spots. :(

Thanks in advance!!

s

We could learn a lot from crayons... Some are sharp, some are pretty and

some are dull. Some have weird names, and all are different colors, but

they all have to live in the same box.

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If you are interested in more dental Studies, they are on my site,

www.hbot4u.com Scrolling down use the search engine on the site enter the

word dental, or any other word and it will search my site for published

studies

By the way, most children start to drool more I find during HBOT prior to

the start of being more verbal

[ ] dental

> Effects and mechanism of hyperbaric oxygen on prostaglandins in alveolar

> bone and gingival of experimental periodontitis in animal.

> Chen T, Lin S, Liu J, Xu B, Hai J, Tang D.

> Department of Periodontal, Stomatological Research Center of Navy Hospital

> 411, Shanghai 200081, China.

> OBJECTIVE:

> To study the effects and the therapeutic mechanism of hyperbaric oxygen

> (HBO) on prostaglandin E(2) (PGE(2)) in alveolar bone and gingiva of

> experimental periodontitis in animal. METHODS: Experimental periodontitis

> was produced by silk thread sutures combined with high content sugar diet.

> For HBO therapy, they were exposed to a pressure of 0.25 MPa (2.5ATA),

> breathing pure oxygen one session a day for 60 min. The treatment course

> was 2 weeks. The value of PGE(2) in gingiva and alveolar bone was analyzed

> by enzyme immunoassay (EIA). RESULTS: The value of PGE(2) in gingiva of

> control group was 3.21 ng/g, and that of PGE(2) in alveolar bone was 3.22

> ng/g. The contents of PGE(2) in gingiva (13.96 ng/g) and alveolar bone

> (13.32 ng/g) of periodontitis group increased markedly than control group

> (P < 0.01). The contents of PGE(2) in gingiva (5.21 ng/g) of HBO group

> were 62.7% which was lower than that of periodontitis group, and the value

> of PGE(2) in alveolar bone (4.05 ng/g) were 69.6% lower than that of

> periodontitis group. The difference of PGE(2) in gingiva or alveolar bone

> was significant for the HBO group and periodontitis group (P < 0.01).

> CONCLUSIONS:

> The contents of PGE(2) in alveolar bone and gingiva increased markedly

> when experimental periodontitis has formed. The value of PGE(2) in

> alveolar bone and gingiva reduce markedly after HBO exposure, and the

> decreased rate of PGE(2) in alveolar bone is more evident than that of

> PGE(2) in gingiva after HBO therapy.

> Printed with Permission

>

>

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Thanks , he did get HBOT but we could only afford 40 treatments and

hopefully we can do more in the very near future.. He also has been scheduled

for sugery in july on his teeth for cleaning treatment etc... Yea that was one

of the side effects i noticed would be dry mouth among few others, It is my

belief that giving him drug to " cover " one problem will open parndoras box to

many other medical problems... especially when it will not fix the original

problem in the first place. Thanks!

stephani

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Does anyone know where a dental chat group is to discuss dentists and treaments

and toxic materials?

In addition to the usual concerns I'm also seeking a lyme literate dentist.

and advice on how to deal wiht pulling teeth if there is a huge sinus infection

already there.

also, what is the latest regarding debridement or not , coagulation , thick

blood flow, taking out ligament etc. (or is that here on this groups site?)

thanks,

Amy

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