Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 >but I am wondering if it could be added like I do other herbal teas. - Use tea, not mate for brewing . Yerba mate is a great drink but it's not for KT. Neither are all sorts of ersatz or " other " herbal teas. You are NOT doing the KT a favour, Kellie, by adding tweaks to the recipe during the brewing process. Stick to the recipe for brewing and feel free to flavour it with all kinds of other stuff AFTER it's brewed. rusty Yerba Mate I recently had a question about this tea if it was ok to use in Kombucha. And I really have never tried it. I know it is not a Cameila Senese plant so it would not be able to completely support the brew but I am wondering if it could be added like I do other herbal teas. After reading about it and tasting it I noticed that it is an evergreen species of plant, so I am wondering if it might be harmful for the SCOBY because evergreens have really strong oils. Anyone have any luck with it for KT? thanks Kellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Hullo Kellie, You can put some yerba mate in your KT brew, but the bulk of the tea you use must be camellia sinensis. I live in the land where yerba mate is grown.(Argentina) People here drink it all the time. They put some mate leaves into a small gourd,( taken from a special tree) or into a small metal cup, pour very hot water into it (it must not boil, it burns the resulting brew) and sip it through a metal straw called a " bombilla " Once people have finished drinking, more hot water is added to the same leaves until the brew becomes too watery. Generally the " mate " is passed from hand to hand, several people sipping through the same " bombilla " . If you say " thank you " it means you don't want more yerba mate. The whole thing is a ritual of friendship. However, many people just have a mate for breakfast, or keep a thermos flask of hot water near their work table if they work at home, to prepare a " mate " whenever their fancy takes them. Some people take a flask of hot water to the office to drink mate during a break. My relatives on my mother's side are mate growers in the north of Argentina, and also grow a bit of black tea, but it's so good it all goes for export and we never get any of it. Having experimented, I know you need about 75% of real tea for your KT. In my opinion, yerba mate gives it a bitter taste. But that's just a personal opinion. I never drink " yerba mate " out of the gourd, it gives me acidity. However, it can be prepared as a common tea and drunk with milk, a drink known as " mate de leche " . (Milk mate) I prefer real tea, brewed British style, the blacker the better. Sorry for having rambled on so much on yerba mate, it's an interesting subject for me because of my family ties with the product. kelrivas escribió: I recently had a question about this tea if it was ok to use in Kombucha. And I really have never tried it. I know it is not a Cameila Senese plant so it would not be able to completely support the brew but I am wondering if it could be added like I do other herbal teas. After reading about it and tasting it I noticed that it is an evergreen species of plant, so I am wondering if it might be harmful for the SCOBY because evergreens have really strong oils. Anyone have any luck with it for KT? thanks Kellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Do not apologize for rambling, I was fascinated!!! Thank you! I have family in Argentina, we lost contact years ago but there is a branch from the Jorda family in Buenos Aires (I think) I've always wanted to go there...it is a fascinating country!!! Peace and Blessings ~*~ Akyva ~*~ Pragmatic Visionary http://yodamamma.blogspot.com/ -- Re: Yerba Mate Hullo Kellie, You can put some yerba mate in your KT brew, but the bulk of the tea you use must be camellia sinensis. I live in the land where yerba mate is grown.(Argentina) People here drink it all the time. They put some mate leaves into a small gourd,( taken from a special tree) or into a small metal cup, pour very hot water into it (it must not boil, it burns the resulting brew) and sip it through a metal straw called a " bombilla " Once people have finished drinking, more hot water is added to the same leaves until the brew becomes too watery. Generally the " mate " is passed from hand to hand, several people sipping through the same " bombilla " . If you say thank you " it means you don't want more yerba mate. The whole thing is a ritual of friendship. However, many people just have a mate for breakfast, or keep a thermos flask of hot water near their work table if they work at home, to prepare a " mate " whenever their fancy takes them. Some people take a flask of hot water to the office to drink mate during a break. My relatives on my mother's side are mate growers in the north of Argentina, and also grow a bit of black tea, but it's so good it all goes for export and we never get any of it. Having experimented, I know you need about 75% of real tea for your KT. In my opinion, yerba mate gives it a bitter taste. But that's just a personal opinion. I never drink " yerba mate " out of the gourd, it gives me acidity. However, it can be prepared as a common tea and drunk with milk, a drink known as mate de leche " . (Milk mate) I prefer real tea, brewed British style, the blacker the better. Sorry for having rambled on so much on yerba mate, it's an interesting subject for me because of my family ties with the product. kelrivas escribió: I recently had a question about this tea if it was ok to use in Kombucha. And I really have never tried it. I know it is not a Cameila Senese plant so it would not be able to completely support the brew but I am wondering if it could be added like I do other herbal teas. After reading about it and tasting it I noticed that it is an evergreen species of plant, so I am wondering if it might be harmful for the SCOBY because evergreens have really strong oils. Anyone have any luck with it for KT? thanks Kellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 > > Do not apologize for rambling, I was fascinated!!! Thank you! > I have to totally agree...Terry THANKYOU!!! I was so impressed with your post I want to come visit you!! What a lovely tradition! I think I will try it with the next batch and I will be sure to use 75% C. S. tea. thank you thank you...this forum is really awesome sometimes! Kellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 What an interesting ramble, thank you for sharing it with us. It answered many questions I have had about Mate preparation. Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev -- In original_kombucha , Terry Mc Queen wrote: > > Hullo Kellie, You can put some yerba mate in your KT brew, but the bulk of the tea you use must be camellia sinensis. I live in the land where yerba mate is grown.(Argentina) People here drink it all the time. They put some mate leaves into a small gourd,( taken from a special tree) or into a small metal cup, pour very hot water into it (it must not boil, it burns the resulting brew) and sip it through a metal straw called a " bombilla " Once people have finished drinking, more hot water is added to the same leaves until the brew becomes too watery. Generally the " mate " is passed from hand to hand, several people sipping through the same " bombilla " . If you say " thank you " it means you don't want more yerba mate. The whole thing is a ritual of friendship. However, many people just have a mate for breakfast, or keep a thermos flask of hot water near their work table if they work at home, to prepare a " mate " whenever their fancy takes them. Some people take a flask of hot water to the > office to drink mate during a break. > My relatives on my mother's side are mate growers in the north of Argentina, and also grow a bit of black tea, but it's so good it all goes for export and we never get any of it. Having experimented, I know you need about 75% of real tea for your KT. In my opinion, yerba mate gives it a bitter taste. But that's just a personal opinion. > I never drink " yerba mate " out of the gourd, it gives me acidity. However, it can be prepared as a common tea and drunk with milk, a drink known as " mate de leche " . (Milk mate) I prefer real tea, brewed British style, the blacker the better. > Sorry for having rambled on so much on yerba mate, it's an interesting subject for me because of my family ties with the product. > > kelrivas escribió: > I recently had a question about this tea if it was ok to use in > Kombucha. And I really have never tried it. I know it is not a Cameila > Senese plant so it would not be able to completely support the brew > but I am wondering if it could be added like I do other herbal teas. > > After reading about it and tasting it I noticed that it is an > evergreen species of plant, so I am wondering if it might be harmful > for the SCOBY because evergreens have really strong oils. > > Anyone have any luck with it for KT? > > thanks > Kellie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 I had a pretty heavy " authentic " Mate' habit for awhile, it's quite stimulating in a very strange, almost euphoric sort of way, especially if you drink it with the bombilla.I have a couple and even made a few glass ones (I'm a glassblower). You grow to like the really earthy taste and when you make it really strong it almost has a sweetness to it..and what a zing zing! I used to sip and sip that stuff, makes me want some all this Mate talk, maybe I should get some more to have around...uh oh. It is commonly smoked (not smoked like tobacco, smoked like salmon) this gives it a really unique flavor, there are some kinds that can be gotten un-smoked if you prefer a milder taste. I even named my big energetic wolf dog after it..LOL...Come'on Mate' let's go buddy! Yeah well, I have a big cat named Kombucha and another named Java..and a little girl cattle dog named Sage too..That's what's so neat about animals, you can name them whatever you want to and nobody will ever tease them. (might tease me though, haha).. Take Care, Just thought I'd ramble in with some Mate chat since rambling is so well received today ;~).. Beau > > What an interesting ramble, thank you for sharing it with us. It > answered many questions I have had about Mate preparation. > > Peace, Love and Harmony, > Bev > > -- In original_kombucha , Terry Mc Queen > wrote: > > > > Hullo Kellie, You can put some yerba mate in your KT brew, but the > bulk of the tea you use must be camellia sinensis. I live in the land > where yerba mate is grown.(Argentina) People here drink it all the > time. They put some mate leaves into a small gourd,( taken from a > special tree) or into a small metal cup, pour very hot water into it > (it must not boil, it burns the resulting brew) and sip it through a > metal straw called a " bombilla " Once people have finished drinking, > more hot water is added to the same leaves until the brew becomes too > watery. Generally the " mate " is passed from hand to hand, several > people sipping through the same " bombilla " . If you say " thank you " it > means you don't want more yerba mate. The whole thing is a ritual of > friendship. However, many people just have a mate for breakfast, or > keep a thermos flask of hot water near their work table if they work > at home, to prepare a " mate " whenever their fancy takes them. Some > people take a flask of hot water to the > > office to drink mate during a break. > > My relatives on my mother's side are mate growers in the north of > Argentina, and also grow a bit of black tea, but it's so good it all > goes for export and we never get any of it. Having experimented, I > know you need about 75% of real tea for your KT. In my opinion, yerba > mate gives it a bitter taste. But that's just a personal opinion. > > I never drink " yerba mate " out of the gourd, it gives me acidity. > However, it can be prepared as a common tea and drunk with milk, a > drink known as " mate de leche " . (Milk mate) I prefer real tea, brewed > British style, the blacker the better. > > Sorry for having rambled on so much on yerba mate, it's an > interesting subject for me because of my family ties with the product. > > > > kelrivas escribió: > > I recently had a question about this tea if it was ok to use in > > Kombucha. And I really have never tried it. I know it is not a Cameila > > Senese plant so it would not be able to completely support the brew > > but I am wondering if it could be added like I do other herbal teas. > > > > After reading about it and tasting it I noticed that it is an > > evergreen species of plant, so I am wondering if it might be harmful > > for the SCOBY because evergreens have really strong oils. > > > > Anyone have any luck with it for KT? > > > > thanks > > Kellie > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 > I even named my big energetic wolf dog after it..LOL...Come'on Mate' let's > go buddy! Yeah well, I have a big cat named Kombucha and another named > Java..and a little girl cattle dog named Sage too..That's what's so neat > about animals, you can name them whatever you want to and nobody will ever > tease them. (might tease me though, haha).. > Take Care, Just thought I'd ramble in with some Mate chat since rambling is > so well received today ;~).. > Beau > Great post Beau, you make me want it right now... But have you ever used it for Kombucha...do you think rusty is right that I would harm my babies with it? I do not want to inject something into my culture that might hurt them, they grow great...in fact too great...I am sending some off into the blue yonder this week...oh the idea of my SCOBY all grown up and going back east to start families there...tear tear...sigh sigh...I am going to be a Kombucha grandma and I am only 40! LOL Kellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 I have not tried Yerba mate in Kombucha, but I suspect (judging by the bold earthy taste) that it just wouldn't be all that tasty. If you use an extra scoby you can always experiment.. Beau > > > > > I even named my big energetic wolf dog after it..LOL...Come'on Mate' > let's > > go buddy! Yeah well, I have a big cat named Kombucha and another named > > Java..and a little girl cattle dog named Sage too..That's what's so neat > > about animals, you can name them whatever you want to and nobody > will ever > > tease them. (might tease me though, haha).. > > Take Care, Just thought I'd ramble in with some Mate chat since > rambling is > > so well received today ;~).. > > Beau > > > > Great post Beau, you make me want it right now... > > But have you ever used it for Kombucha...do you think rusty is right > that I would harm my babies with it? I do not want to inject something > into my culture that might hurt them, they grow great...in fact too > great...I am sending some off into the blue yonder this week...oh the > idea of my SCOBY all grown up and going back east to start families > there...tear tear...sigh sigh...I am going to be a Kombucha grandma > and I am only 40! > > LOL > Kellie > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 In message <45bf2a800603261536h12a824ft7a2a64bfef68d3a4@...> you wrote: > I had a pretty heavy " authentic " Mate' habit for awhile, it's quite > stimulating in a very strange, almost euphoric sort of way, especially if > you drink it with the bombilla.I have a couple and even made a few glass > ones (I'm a glassblower). You grow to like the really earthy taste and when > you make it really strong it almost has a sweetness to it..and what > a zing zing! I used to sip and sip that stuff, makes me want some all this > Mate talk, maybe I should get some more to have around...uh oh. > It is commonly smoked (not smoked like tobacco, smoked like salmon) this > gives it a really unique flavor, there are some kinds that can be gotten > un-smoked if you prefer a milder taste. > I even named my big energetic wolf dog after it..LOL...Come'on Mate' let's > go buddy! Yeah well, I have a big cat named Kombucha and another named > Java..and a little girl cattle dog named Sage too..That's what's so neat > about animals, you can name them whatever you want to and nobody will ever > tease them. (might tease me though, haha).. > Take Care, Just thought I'd ramble in with some Mate chat since rambling is > so well received today ;~).. Beau, how marvellous a ramble! Thanks, mighty glassblower for sharing such delights! Blessings, Margret:-) -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Minstrel@... <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com http://www.elijahlist.com +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Every problem is an opportunity to trust God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 In message <e06anl+irhteGroups> you wrote: > I recently had a question about this tea if it was ok to use in > Kombucha. And I really have never tried it. I know it is not a Cameila > Senese plant so it would not be able to completely support the brew > but I am wondering if it could be added like I do other herbal teas. > > After reading about it and tasting it I noticed that it is an > evergreen species of plant, so I am wondering if it might be harmful > for the SCOBY because evergreens have really strong oils. > > Anyone have any luck with it for KT? > Kellie, I tried it many many moons ago with Kombucha and as far as I can remember it did work o.k.. I also used some proper tea with it, I think. All this Yerba Mate talk is driving me to try it again NOW. I do have some in the cupboard. It's time I did an experimental batch again! I'll try it with Gunpowder green this time. Let you know the outcome when I harvest it in about 2 weeks. ..... in anticipation of the Yerba mate things to come ;-) Margret -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Minstrel@... <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com http://www.elijahlist.com +---------------------------------------------------------------+ A Saviour not quite God is a bridge broken at the Fa®ther end. Bishop Handley Moule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Hi, I recently experimented with Yerba Mate (since I grow it here in SoCal, USA). With 25% green tea and 75% mate (Sin Palo - or without stems), it brewed just fine for several batches, and I got a realitivly good SCOBY growth. Nothing like straight tea, but it did ferment like it was supposed to. There are no oils that will harm the SCOBY in Mate. I will have to say though, it did not make a good tasting KT at all. I fermented Mate with some other fermenting processes, and got the same results, it tasted awful. Brewed Mate is good, but fermented, not so good. Another popular way of preparing Mate is with Chocolate, it blends well with either sweetened chocolate or unsweetened bean pieces. Iced Mate goes well with cold KT also, so you could combine after fermentation if you like. Or (something I do with my home grown Mate) you can roast the leaves like black tea, it tastes very good too! Mate will cold brew also (leave the leaves in cold water for 24 hours, then strain, the resultant concentrate could be made in to tea or diluted with water and KT for the iced Mate/KT combo). I stopped brewing Mate and also the successful Rooibos KT (also 25% Tea, 75% rooibos) for the same reason, the straight tea KT tastes much better (althrough the Rooibos wasn't TOO bad) either right out of the brewing container or many months later out of the fridge. I would agree with the posting of sticking to straight tea but more for a taste reason. I recently had a question about this tea if it was ok to use in Kombucha. And I really have never tried it. I know it is not a Cameila Senese plant so it would not be able to completely support the brew but I am wondering if it could be added like I do other herbal teas. After reading about it and tasting it I noticed that it is an evergreen species of plant, so I am wondering if it might be harmful for the SCOBY because evergreens have really strong oils. Anyone have any luck with it for KT? thanks Kellie -- mjkern2000@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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