Guest guest Posted December 7, 2002 Report Share Posted December 7, 2002 I might as well post the whole article: Bush Asks Court To Seal MMR Vaccine Records By Todd Zwillich 11-26-2 WASHINGTON (Reuters Health) - Attorneys for the Bush Administration asked a federal court on Monday to order that documents on hundreds of cases of autism allegedly caused by childhood vaccines be kept from the public. Department of Justice lawyers asked a special master in the US Court of Federal Claims to seal the documents, arguing that allowing their automatic disclosure would take away the right of federal agencies to decide when and how the material should be released. Attorneys for the families of hundreds of autistic children charged that the government was trying to keep the information out of civil courts, where juries might be convinced to award large judgments against vaccine manufacturers. The court is currently hearing approximately 1,000 claims brought by the families of autistic children. The suits charge that the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine, which until recently included a mercury-containing preservative known as thimerosal, can cause neurological damage leading to autism. Federal law requires suits against vaccine makers to go before a special federal " vaccine court " before any civil lawsuit is allowed. The court was set up by Congress to speed compensation claims and to help protect vaccine makers from having to pay large punitive awards decided by juries in state civil courts. Plaintiffs are free to take their cases to state courts if they lose in the federal vaccine court or if they don't accept the court's judgment. The current 1,000 or so autism cases are unusual for the court. Because it received so many claims, much of the fact-finding and evidence-gathering is going on for all of the cases as a block. Monday's request by the Bush Administration would prevent plaintiffs who later go to civil court from using some relevant evidence generated during the required vaccine court proceedings. Plaintiffs' attorneys said that the order amounted to punishment of the families of injured children because it would require them to incur the time and expense of regenerating evidence for a civil suit. " Wouldn't it be a shame if at the end of the day our policy would be to compensate lawyers, " said Jeff Kim, an attorney with Gallagher Boland Meiburger & Brosnan. The firm represents about 400 families of autistic children who received the MMR vaccine. Kim accused the government of trying to lower " a shroud of secrecy over these documents " in order to protect vaccine manufacturers, who he said were " the only entities " that would benefit if the documents are sealed. While federal law clearly seals most documents generated in individual vaccine cases, it has never been applied to a block proceeding like the one generating evidence in the autism cases. Administration lawyers told Special Master Hastings that they requested the seal in order to preserve the legal right of the Secretary of Health and Human Services to decide when vaccine evidence can be released to the public. Justice Department attorney Matanoski argued that to let plaintiffs use the vaccine court evidence in a later civil suit would confer an advantage on plaintiffs who chose to forgo federal compensation. " There is no secret here. What the petitioners are arguing for are enhanced rights in a subsequent civil action, " Matanoski said of the plaintiffs. " They're still going to have unfettered use within the proceedings. " Hastings would not say when he would issue a ruling on whether to seal the court documents, but did say that his decision would be " very prompt. " Copyright © 2002 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 Scholarly language does not equate the scientific method, which surely means the continuous re-examination of the evidence and the investigation of all likely hypothesis until they are definitively proven true or false. I do not doubt that many individuals and organisations have jumped on the MMR-autism bandwagon with their own agenda. I also know it's much safer just to parrot scholarly reports, but we do not know the long term effects of mass triple vaccination alongside mass consumption of other non-traditional foodstuffs. As others have pointed out, Dr Bradstreet has already responded to tbe Danish Study ( http://www.network54.com/Forum/message?forumid=139344 & messageid=1037992442 ) .. The physician at the centre of the UK MMR-autism controversy is non-repetent and working in Florida. If he were such a fool, why would the mutibillion dollar forced-vaccination lobby employ PR firms to smear him? Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 Neil Gardner wrote: > The physician at the centre of the UK MMR-autism controversy is non-repetent > and working in Florida. If he were such a fool, why would the mutibillion > dollar forced-vaccination lobby employ PR firms to smear him? That one is not hard to figure out. If a fool has a significant following, then the people that oppose that fool might have to use PR to dissuade people from following that fool. Your bias against corporations seems to make you think that any time one of them opposes something, that something must be right. That's just as fallacious as assuming that corporations are always right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 For the sake of argument, and I hope further research will shed more light on the genetic and environmental causes of autism, let's assume Drs Bradstreet and Wakefield are wrong. Why smear them? Why spend millions of pounds or dollars of public money to insist that the triple MMR vaccine is the only viable option and to dissuade parents from taking separate vaccines for measles, mumps and rubella. Try both approaches and see what happens! But the government doesn't want people to choose their own medication. It wants pharmaceuticals to have absolute control over healthcare. Would they not do the public a better service by discouraging consumption of aspartame (often associated with ADD) and promoting wholesome non-GM food? Instead they're urging people to switch to sugar-free (i.e. aspartame-rich drinks) and letting fast-food chains provide school meals, leading in the long run to many times more premature deaths than measles caused prior to vaccination. As for our immune system, the real fear is that the measles virus has mutated into more virulent forms, against which MMR provides little protection. However, in all likelihood there are other contributory environmental causes that accentuate autism in susceptible individuals. I still think there is a perfectly natural genetically determined autistic-neurosmarmy spectrum (I just coined the penultimate term, i.e. the opposite to aspie), which is truly fantastic if we learn to take advantage of people's relative strengths and weaknesses and stop making absurd assumptions about behavioural niceties. However, environmental factors turn introvert types into auties with severe developmental problems. Do you seriously want to condemn these people to institutional lives dependent on social workers, disability benefit and medications? No, I'd rather everyone be given a chance in life. As said there are significant differences in diagnosis rates in countries with advanced healthcare systems and I don't believe that diagnostic criteria and awareness are the sole explanations. Some other neurological differences are easily identifiable. Many ASDs may have been misdiagnosed as schizophrenia inb the past, but the combined ASD + schizoid disorder total is rising too as are diagnoses of dyspraxia, ADD and ADHD. Much of the >inappropriate< or >disruptive< behaviour associated with aspie kids (but not IMHO features of natural aspieness) can be seen in NT kids. What they want is an atomised society glued to electronic devices, regurgitating mild variants of the same propaganda and convinced of their self-righteousness, but oblivious to the machinations of our real rulers. They want a society where people converse in chatrooms, but dare not approach their neighbours. I have serious psychological problems approaching my neighbours, but in an ideal world we would not fear others, but respect each other's integrity and identity. What's happening is quite grotesque. No-one is to be trusted and 1 in 5 kids are labelled special needs, something virtually synonymous with mentally and/or physically handicapped. We pretend everyone has equal opportunities and then worship neuro-smarmy idols (TV celebs, popstars, movie stars, videogame heroes etc.). Neil Re: MMR Vaccine Records Sealed > Neil Gardner wrote: > > > The physician at the centre of the UK MMR-autism controversy is non-repetent > > and working in Florida. If he were such a fool, why would the mutibillion > > dollar forced-vaccination lobby employ PR firms to smear him? > > That one is not hard to figure out. If a fool has a significant following, then the > people that oppose that fool might have to use PR to dissuade people from following that > fool. Your bias against corporations seems to make you think that any time one of them > opposes something, that something must be right. That's just as fallacious as assuming > that corporations are always right. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 Here's another news source with a little more detail: The Bush administration asked a federal claims court on November 26 to seal documents relating to hundreds of cases of autism allegedly caused by a mercury-based preservative, thimerosal, used in childhood vaccines. The government's legal action comes on the heels of an insertion into the Homeland Security bill that protects Eli Lilly, the drug company giant that developed thimerosal, from lawsuits involving the additive. The bill removes all liability from the pharmaceutical industry and health officials for the injuries and death resulting from the preservative. The connections between the Bush administration and the pharmaceutical company are extensive. Eli Lilly's chairman and CEO, Sidney Taurel, was recently given a seat on the president's Advisory Council on Homeland Security and Mitch s, former president of Lilly's North American operations, is currently the White House budget director. Former president Bush sat on Eli Lilly's board of directors. In asking for the documents to be sealed November 26, Department of Justice (DOJ) lawyers asked a special master in the US Court of Federal Claims for a protective order on behalf of Tommy G. , the secretary of Health and Human Services, whose department administers a government fund to compensate people injured by vaccines. DOJ lawyers claim that the law creating the fund gives the secretary jurisdiction over which information is released and they argue that automatic disclosure of the documents would take away that right. The claims are being heard by Special Master Hastings in a 'vaccine court'-part of the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVIC)-that was created in 1986, when the government fund was established. The vaccine court was set up to speed compensation claims and help protect vaccine makers from having to pay large punitive awards decided by juries in state civil courts. Claims must be filed within three years of a child's first symptoms (autism, however, is typically not diagnosed until 18 months after the first symptoms appear) and the program grants a maximum of $250,000 for proof of injury-a sum considerably lower than the typical award for autism in a state court. It also takes four to five years to reach a decision under NVIC, according to Portland lawyer Mike , who represents hundreds of families in suits against the pharmaceutical companies. The court is currently hearing approximately 1,100 claims brought by the families of autistic children, who claim that thimerosal has caused autism and other neurological disorders in children. The request by the Bush administration would prevent plaintiffs who later go to civil court from using evidence gathered during the required vaccine court proceedings. " There is no secret here. What the petitioners are arguing for are enhanced rights in a subsequent civil action, " complained Justice Department attorney Matanoski to Reuters Health. The order, which amounts to punishing of the families of injured children, will require that plaintiffs incur the time and expense of regenerating evidence in a civil suit. " The vaccine program is a public health program-every child has to get inoculated, " Sallie Bernard of the parental advocacy group Safe Minds told the WSWS. " Therefore the public has the right to know every aspect of the program. " Mercury-based thimerosal was added to vaccines to safeguard against production-related contamination. The Federal Drug Administration began urging vaccine makers to eliminate the substance in mid-1999, as did the Public Health Service and the American Academy of Pediatrics. The World Health Organization still defends thimerosal, which is currently being manufactured in vaccines sent to the underdeveloped countries. Thimerosal helps vaccines survive dirty storage conditions and allows for cheaper packaging in multi-dose bottles, as opposed to single-dose vials. In 1999 the Institute of Medicine, an associated organization of the National Academy of Sciences, concluded that the evidence was " inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between thimerosal exposures from childhood vaccines and the neurodevelopmental disorders of autism " and other problems, but added, " However, data on mercury toxicity more generally suggests that the hypothesis is biologically plausible. " In the midst of the heated response by advocacy groups and law firms involved with the thimerosal controversy to the DOJ's attempt to seal documents, a study was published November 30 in the British medical journal The Lancet. Its findings claimed that infants who received vaccines containing thimerosal had levels of mercury in their blood that were within the federal safety limits. The study examined 33 infants from two to six months who were injected with thimerosal-laced vaccines and 15 infants that were administered mercury-free vaccines. Sallie Bernard of Safe Minds commented on the report: " Thirty-three blood draws cannot do justice to a known neurotoxin. One major shortcoming of a small sample size is the low chance of including infants who are especially sensitive to mercury's effects, or who may have detoxification difficulties. The blood was not drawn at peak levels, and the samples were not randomly drawn, but were convenience samples and therefore not representative of all infants in terms of health status, socioeconomic status, ethnicity and other potentially important factors. Also the amount of the dosage used in the study was considerably less that the typical dosage administered throughout the 1990s. " " This study is an example of the fact that as yet there has not been enough time or resources allocated to complete much-needed, genuine investigations, " stated Bernard, who expressed alarm at the prominence The Lancet had given to the finding. She further questioned the objectivity of the study's author, Dr. E. Pichichero of the University of Rochester, who has extensive ties to the vaccine manufacturers. In a disclosure statement for an article in the American Academy of Family Physicians newsletter of April 2000, Pichichero admits to receiving research grants and/or honoraria from Abbot Laboratories, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Eli Lilly, Merck, Pfizer Labs, Roche, among a host of others. Pichichero's work has been cited in 21 vaccine patent applications. Bernard pointed out that the University of Rochester web site describes Dr. Pichichero as an immunologist, not a toxicologist. Thimerosal came under scrutiny due to the dramatic rise in autism throughout the 1990s. Early on in the decade several new thimerosal-based vaccines were added to the standard childhood schedule, leading to an augmentation of two to three times the doses of multiple vaccines. According to the Federal Drug Administration's (FDA) web site, prior to the recent initiatives by the agency to reduce or eliminate thimerosal from vaccines, the maximum cumulative exposure to mercury via routine childhood vaccinations during the first six months of life was 187.5 micrograms. The FDA states that " an exposure to more than 62.5 micrograms within the first three months of life significantly increases a child's risk of developing autism. " An FDA review conducted in 1998 revealed that children who had received the full complement of childhood vaccines were potentially exposed to mercury levels 30 to 50 times the acceptable levels established by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). The number of children who have been affected by autism leaped from 1 in 2,000 in 1970 to 1 in 250 in 2000. (The National Vaccine Information Center reports clusters in areas of New Jersey and California of 1 in 150). Concurrently, the number of children diagnosed with learning disabilities has now reached 1 in 5. Another Safe Minds advocate, Lyn Redwood, a nurse practitioner whose husband is a physician, told the WSWS the story of her son Will. " He was normal until his second year of life. He then began to regress-he lost speech, eye contact and became withdrawn and despondent. " When Will was diagnosed with autism she began investigating her son's quantity of mercury exposure and discovered it was 125 times the allowed level. It is her belief that Will suffered from delayed neurotoxicity which led to the onset of autism. " In the early 1990s, two new vaccines were added to the vaccine protocol for the first six months of life. I believe that caused what we see now as an epidemic of autism in children. You can see that most clearly in California, the state with the best tracking records, " said Ms. Redwood. California recorded an increase of 273 percent between 1987 and 1998 in the number of children entering the California development services system with a professional diagnosis of autism, according to the California Department of Developmental Services. She continued: " The Homeland Security Bill has now moved all cases to the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Act, which has a three year limitation. My case was in the batch of 1,000 cases, but the statute of limitation has closed the door on us and also the majority of parents who remain unaware of the statute. " The Houston-based law firm of Waters & Kraus filed the first known lawsuit alleging thimerosal's connection to autism. The firm is leading a consortium of 10 firms nationwide that are actively prosecuting cases of this nature. The lead attorney for the consortium, Andy Waters, obtained through Safe Minds an unreleased confidential report by scientists of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) which states: " As for the exposure evaluated at 3 months of age, we found increasing risks of 'neurological developmental disorders' with the increasing cumulative exposure to thimerosal ... within the group of 'developmental disorders' ... for the subgroup called 'specific delays,' and within this subgroup for the specific disorder 'developmental speech disorder,' and for 'autism' 'stuttering' and 'attention deficit disorder.' " Mr. Waters told the WSWS: " It defies coincidence between double the vaccines and the dramatic upsurge in autism. But this should come as no surprise, given that the government and its allies are in control of public policy. Eli Lilly gave more money to the Republican campaign than any other pharmaceutical company in an industry that gave $20-40 million. The DOJ and the administration are owned by the pharmaceutical companies. They want to seal the files to prevent proving the case against these companies. [Attorney General ] Ashcroft is owned by the industry and the Democrats are waffling all over the place, so the administration's move comes as no real surprise. " " With the cases sealed, Eli Lilly will move for a dismissal and all my cases are filed against Eli Lilly, " Waters continued. " This will be a long battle against people who have all the resources and motivation. They control the pier-reviewed medical and scientific journals and all the research money. It will be a long and difficult fight. " Waters added that " no amount of money can give these children back the potential that they were born with, and no amount of money will comfort the parents that watched helplessly as their children literally just slipped away. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2002 Report Share Posted December 11, 2002 Neil Gardner wrote: > For the sake of argument, and I hope further research will shed more light > on the genetic and environmental causes of autism, let's assume Drs > Bradstreet and Wakefield are wrong. Why smear them? Why spend millions of > pounds or dollars of public money to insist that the triple MMR vaccine is > the only viable option and to dissuade parents from taking separate vaccines > for measles, mumps and rubella. Try both approaches and see what happens! I would agree with that. Knowledge and truth is what I want, even if that meant admitting I was wrong. I do not mean to say that I support smearing anyone... I would rather credir or discredit their study based on the facts. > But the government doesn't want people to choose their own medication. It > wants pharmaceuticals to have absolute control over healthcare. Would they > not do the public a better service by discouraging consumption of aspartame > (often associated with ADD) and promoting wholesome non-GM food? Instead > they're urging people to switch to sugar-free (i.e. aspartame-rich drinks) > and letting fast-food chains provide school meals, leading in the long run > to many times more premature deaths than measles caused prior to > vaccination. As for our immune system, the real fear is that the measles > virus has mutated into more virulent forms, against which MMR provides > little protection. I have not heard that aspartame was associated with ADD. I know that when I was quite young, my mother had me on a low-sugar, no preservative (BHA/BHT) diet because of my perceived hyperactivity. I never heard that aspartame was being implicated too. > However, in all likelihood there are other contributory environmental causes > that accentuate autism in susceptible individuals. I still think there is a > perfectly natural genetically determined autistic-neurosmarmy spectrum (I > just coined the penultimate term, i.e. the opposite to aspie), which is > truly fantastic if we learn to take advantage of people's relative strengths > and weaknesses and stop making absurd assumptions about behavioural > niceties. However, environmental factors turn introvert types into auties > with severe developmental problems. Do you seriously want to condemn these > people to institutional lives dependent on social workers, disability > benefit and medications? I do not think that is accurate. People are or are not autistic depending on mostly genetic factors, although there is some other cause that has not as yet been identified. However, the autism is either in place or it is not at birth; people are born autistic. Some things can exacerbate the condition and reduce function level, but that is not the same as turning introverts into autistics. They are autistic either way. I further demur with the idea that being autistic necessarily means a dependent life. There are far too many exceptions to that rule to even believe it for a second. If you take all of the aspies into account, only 15% of people on the spectrum are low-functioning-- a far cry from the 75% figure that is typically used, which refers only to those that have a near classical presentation of autism. I certainly am all in favor of doing research to learn why some of us turn out like those of us on this list, and some of us end up unable to communicate or perform the most basic self-help services. A lot of this has to do with sensory integration early in life; if the senses do not present a coherent view of the world, the mind cannot be stimulated and develop intelligence as it should. > As said there are significant differences in diagnosis rates in countries > with advanced healthcare systems and I don't believe that diagnostic > criteria and awareness are the sole explanations. Some other neurological > differences are easily identifiable. Many ASDs may have been misdiagnosed as > schizophrenia inb the past, but the combined ASD + schizoid disorder total > is rising too as are diagnoses of dyspraxia, ADD and ADHD. Much of the >>inappropriate< or >disruptive< behaviour associated with aspie kids (but > not IMHO features of natural aspieness) can be seen in NT kids. What they > want is an atomised society glued to electronic devices, regurgitating mild > variants of the same propaganda and convinced of their self-righteousness, > but oblivious to the machinations of our real rulers. By and large, I would agree with that statement. I think of modern sports as being akin to the Roman circuses, meant to keep the populace sated and preoccupied with things other htan the way their lives are being run for them. > What's happening is quite grotesque. No-one is to be trusted and 1 > in 5 kids are labelled special needs, something virtually synonymous with > mentally and/or physically handicapped. We pretend everyone has equal > opportunities and then worship neuro-smarmy idols (TV celebs, popstars, > movie stars, videogame heroes etc.). I would agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 > I have not heard that aspartame was associated with ADD. I know that > when I was quite young, my mother had me on a low-sugar, no preservative > (BHA/BHT) diet because of my perceived hyperactivity. I never heard > that aspartame was being implicated too. I've used aspartame since it came out, and I've never had ADHD. As far as I know, I never had the MMR vaccine. I had the mumps when I was five, and it directly caused my diabetes. I'd rather have taken my chances with the vaccine. I know that my AS was caused by the circumstances of my birth, not by a vaccine. Iris Iris Gray, Puff, Calli and Munchkin Proud to be Canuckistanian Personal website: http://victoria.tc.ca/~rainbow/ Toastmasters website: http://victoria.tc.ca/Community/Bb/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 Iris wrote: >I've used aspartame since it came out, and I've never had ADHD. Seems like any/all artificial sweeteners can be a migraine trigger for some people. I avoid them all. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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