neurospect

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/13/02 11:00:42 AM Central Daylight Time,

rmwilson@... writes:

> Most importantly, the report that is done by Fred Mishkin at UCLA Radiology

> in one paragraph will completely summarise the likely conditions of the

> child - and the inherent behavioural characteristics - just by analysis of

> the Neurospect, without having seen the child and without a phycologist in

> cooeeeee.........think about it!

>

Did those of you who have done the test see your children in the conditions

listed in the analysis?

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

Can't agree more Caroline - and in some cases, blood flow can be reduced in

one temporal lobe, and elevated in another!

That is tricky to deal with. So important to know what is happening.......

Most importantly, the report that is done by Fred Mishkin at UCLA Radiology

in one paragraph will completely summarise the likely conditions of the

child - and the inherent behavioural characteristics - just by analysis of

the Neurospect, without having seen the child and without a phycologist in

cooeeeee.........think about it!

RW

Re: NeuroSpect

Gaylen,

The dye is injected IV style.

Haven't heard of any reactions to the dye... maybe someone else will post if

they have.

I can't explain the differences in the scans exactly, but Dr. Goldberg does

do some explaining on the December videoconference tape. It has to do with

being able to see where the blood flow in the brain has gone awry. For

instance, many/most? " autistic " brains seem to have decreased low blood flow

in the temporal lobes, but hyperactivity can stem from higher flow in the

frontal lobe. The SPECT scan is very helpful in targeting which areas need

to be addressed medically. There may be combinations of low and high blood

flow in the same brain.

One example of how SPECT scans could be useful is Ritalin. Dr. Goldberg

says on the videoconference that he is " violently opposed " to its use. One

reason is that Ritalin is a vasoconstrictor. It does reduce blood flow in

the frontal lobe, which can help cool hyperactivity, BUT it also reduces

blood flow in other areas of the brain (where it shouldn't). Dr. Goldberg

says that Drs. put kids on Ritalin and then wonder why their IQs seem to be

dropping. It's because the Ritalin is diminishing function in parts of the

brain that were working before. The before and after scans of these

children's brains could show exactly what was happening to that flow.

Since different meds target different areas of the brain, it is crucial to

do the right thing medically if you want a child to improve and reach their

FULL potential.

The NeuroSPECT seems to be the best tool to visualize all of this.

I hope that helps!

Caroline

>On 8/11/02 11:46 PM, " googahly@... " <googahly@...> wrote:

> How do they inject the dye -- into the spine or regular IV? Has anyone's

> child had a bad reaction to the dye? that would be a concern for us since

my

> son tends to be sensative to dyes in foods and meds.

>

> Since my son is 10 and it seems it's recommended for alot of kids over 6,

I'm

> curious to know what this test shows different from the other tests that

> would change the treatment enough to justify it. Anyone have a good

example?

>

> Also, what's the difference between an " autism " neurospect and an " ADHD "

one

> or " CFS " one? Is this different areas affected?

> Gaylen

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, i was wondering if youve seen or heard of a recognizable brain pattern

for a nonverbal learning disability? also any treatment? thanks Bonnie

[Guest guest]

When I refer to a CFS / ADHD or Autistic neurospect reading

I'm referring to a talk Dr Ismael Mena gave at the conference

a few years back. Most of these slides are listed on Dr G's website

(http://www.neuroimmunedr.com)

Based on the blood flow going to various parts of the brain,

Dr Mena can tell certain things about a patient's personality.

I won't get into specifics because I'm not an MD )

But highlighted areas indicate areas of increased acty - you see

these areas in patients with ADHD.

Dr G said he saw 'adhd with shades of cfs' but didn't elaborate (dern

him ) )

When our ABA consultant (who is on the threshold of getting her PhD

in Psychology) saw the Spects and read the report she also saw

indications of ADHD.

Again, a picture is worth a thousand words. Check out the pics on the

website

tho the 'marshmellow' type pictures aren't listed. When a patient has a

Neurospect

done, you get 2 types of pictures. One that is colored (blue - areas of

low acty

or oxygen; white - 'hot' areas) and one that looks like a 'marshmellow'.

We had been trying to increase my son's celexa dosage for a few months,

without success. Basedonthe neurospect, Dr G held off for a few months,

then tried the increase again with good success. Perhaps the brain/body

weren't primed for the increase?

I've seen other neurospects - some 2-3 yrs apart. The changes were

amazing!

The first neurospect showed a very 'holey' brain (low oxygen flow).

The 2nd neurospect showed a much healthier brain .... a good feeling for

parents )

The neurospect is a tool only ...

My son is very sensitive to colors, esp blue.

He had no reactions to the dye used inthe neurospect.

doris

land

[Guest guest]

Hi -

Dr. G is also sending kids to UCLA Santa for the SPECT. This

facility is just NE of LAX (sort of between Dr. G and LAX) whereas

Harbor is further SE from LAX. Apparently neither facility is using the

Xenon now in the SPECTs, so it doesn't matter which facility you use.

Actually I was told to try Santa first if I could get in, and if

not to try Harbor. You can call Santa at: (310) 319-4880 and

speak to Virginia. BTW, the CPT code your insurance company needs to

verify coverage (for the scan) is: 78607. I would call again about

insurance coverage. Most major plans will cover 80-90% of the scan,

sometimes with a deductible.

Caroline Glover wrote:

> ,

>

> I don't recall how much ours was (fortunately for us, our insurance did

> cover most of it). You could call Harbor-UCLA and ask directly. The

> technician's name is Carmen (at least that's who it was in January of this

> year) and the phone there is 310-222-5163. Carmen is so nice and I'm sure

> she can direct you to the right person to help you. Carmen does LOTS of

> scans for Dr. Goldberg!

>

> I live in Indiana and just found out that there is a NeuroSPECT

> scanner here

> in Indianapolis. I would be wary of doing a scan other than at

> Harbor-UCLA,

> though, because you want to be sure the scan is done to Dr. Goldberg's

> specs.

>

> It's probably a good a idea to ask Dr. Goldberg's office their opinion if

> considering doing the scan elsewhere.

>

> Good luck. Having a NeuroSPECT scan was very helpful for us.

>

> Caroline

>

>

>

>

> >On 8/8/02 11:02 AM, " sydbugg " <cewlslgr@...> wrote:

>

> > Dr. G wants us to get a NeuroSpect done. I know our insurance won't

> > pay for it. Does anyone remember how much it cost? Is California the

> > only place to get one done?

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

What do these SPECT scans usually cost if you have no insurance coverage?

mjh

In a message dated 8/16/02 12:56:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsfalls@... writes:

> Hi -

> Dr. G is also sending kids to UCLA Santa for the SPECT. This

> facility is just NE of LAX (sort of between Dr. G and LAX) whereas

> Harbor is further SE from LAX. Apparently neither facility is using the

> Xenon now in the SPECTs, so it doesn't matter which facility you use.

> Actually I was told to try Santa first if I could get in, and if

> not to try Harbor. You can call Santa at: (310) 319-4880 and

> speak to Virginia. BTW, the CPT code your insurance company needs to

> verify coverage (for the scan) is: 78607. I would call again about

> insurance coverage. Most major plans will cover 80-90% of the scan,

> sometimes with a deductible.

>

>

[Guest guest]

does one place really do a better job? i was under

the impression that dr. g preferred to use carmon at

harbour. when i just spoke to dr g's office

yesterday, laurie only gave me a ph # for harbour.

she said nothing about santa monica, altho that does

sound more convenient. i'm confused. barb

--- foxhillers@... wrote:

>

> What do these SPECT scans usually cost if you

> have no insurance coverage?

> mjh

>

>

> In a message dated 8/16/02 12:56:05 AM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> rsfalls@... writes:

>

>

> > Hi -

> > Dr. G is also sending kids to UCLA Santa

> for the SPECT. This

> > facility is just NE of LAX (sort of between Dr. G

> and LAX) whereas

> > Harbor is further SE from LAX. Apparently neither

> facility is using the

> > Xenon now in the SPECTs, so it doesn't matter

> which facility you use.

> > Actually I was told to try Santa first if I

> could get in, and if

> > not to try Harbor. You can call Santa at:

> (310) 319-4880 and

> > speak to Virginia. BTW, the CPT code your

> insurance company needs to

> > verify coverage (for the scan) is: 78607. I would

> call again about

> > insurance coverage. Most major plans will cover

> 80-90% of the scan,

> > sometimes with a deductible.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Barb Katsaros

barbkatsaros@...

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonnie,

When I was trying to find papers for school battles...I found articles like

the ones below. My son has a diagnosis of Aspergers which really matches

the abnormalities that showed up on his Neurospect. The reduced bloodflow

was worse on the right side. The right side dysfunction is also linked to

NVLD. If it's dysfunction rather than a genetic structural problem then

you're probably looking at . The diagnosis describes the symptoms that

are manifesting....not the reason for the symptoms.

Cheryl

http://www.asperger.org/related/related_heller.htm

http://www.asperger.org/related/related_roman.htm

>From: bonniedanphil@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: neurospect

>Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:19:41 EDT

>

>Hi, i was wondering if youve seen or heard of a recognizable brain pattern

>for a nonverbal learning disability? also any treatment? thanks Bonnie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/16/02 7:11:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

barbkatsaros@... writes:

NVLD =

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl,

thanks for replying. It is interesting that apergers and nvld show up that

way. Do you mean, tho, that whether or not it is due to genetic structural

problems or immune dysfunction cannot be determined by the Neurospect? So you

are trying tDr. G's protocol and wll get your answer by the way that your son

responds?Also, have you heard of the new soft tissue MRI? Can this be a new

tool?

[Guest guest]

what is nvld? thanks! barb

--- Cheryl B <clbro66@...> wrote:

> Hi Bonnie,

> When I was trying to find papers for school

> battles...I found articles like

> the ones below. My son has a diagnosis of Aspergers

> which really matches

> the abnormalities that showed up on his Neurospect.

> The reduced bloodflow

> was worse on the right side. The right side

> dysfunction is also linked to

> NVLD. If it's dysfunction rather than a genetic

> structural problem then

> you're probably looking at . The diagnosis

> describes the symptoms that

> are manifesting....not the reason for the symptoms.

> Cheryl

>

> http://www.asperger.org/related/related_heller.htm

> http://www.asperger.org/related/related_roman.htm

> >From: bonniedanphil@...

> >Reply-

> >

> >Subject: Re: neurospect

> >Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:19:41 EDT

> >

> >Hi, i was wondering if youve seen or heard of a

> recognizable brain pattern

> >for a nonverbal learning disability? also any

> treatment? thanks Bonnie

> >

> >

> >[Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >Responsibility for the content of this message lies

> strictly with

> >the original author, and is not necessarily

> endorsed by or the

> >opinion of the Research Institute.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/16/02 9:47:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

pere7201@... writes:

> They cost around $2500.

> Most insurance covers the scan, most insurance does not cover the telephone

>

Thanks, we have no insurance.....

[Guest guest]

Sorry to say, since mine is covered, I did not ask.

foxhillers@... wrote:

> What do these SPECT scans usually cost if you have no insurance coverage?

> mjh

>

>

[Guest guest]

what is xenon and is it desireable or not? have you

seen dr. g yet? i was told by the receptionist that

they will not write an order for a neurospect unless

they have seen you first. they also will not write

orders for the labs, and i am trying to get a dr. to

do it around here for me. anyway, when i went to get

an appt. at santa monica, i was told that they would

not schedule my two boys without an order. harbour

did it without an order, so for now, i guess we'll use

them. but dr. g prefers s. monica? i don't get it.

i do want to cont to pursue santa monica, tho as it is

20 min. from the airport vs. 45. we're a little

nervous about driving in l.a. area. we'll probably

rent a car, but my husband talked about taking cabs.

how was the traffic? any worse than the dan ryan in

chicago?

when are you scheduled to see dr. g? we are nov. 8 at

10:30. i would really like to have all my labs done

for both boys before we go, so that dr. g will have

everything he needs to give us the whole picture.

take care. barb

--- Logan Falls <rsfalls@...> wrote:

> Beats me! I was making arrangements just this past

> Wednesday and was

> told (by Dr. G himself) to try Santa (Dr.

> Uszler) first (because

> they were still supposed to be using Xenon- but they

> have discontinued

> use) and if I could not get in to Santa , then

> go to Harbor. At

> one time both facilities were using Xenon, but I

> think Harbor must have

> discontinued the use first if the folks at Santa

> can be believed.

> It sounds like the office needs to " get on the same

> page " . I really

> don't like conflicting info.

>

>

>

> Barb Katsaros wrote:

>

> > does one place really do a better job? i was

> under

> > the impression that dr. g preferred to use carmon

> at

> > harbour. when i just spoke to dr g's office

> > yesterday, laurie only gave me a ph # for harbour.

>

> > she said nothing about santa monica, altho that

> does

> > sound more convenient. i'm confused. barb

> > --- foxhillers@... wrote:

> >

> >> What do these SPECT scans usually cost if you

> >> have no insurance coverage?

> >> mjh

> >>

> >>

> >> In a message dated 8/16/02 12:56:05 AM Eastern

> >> Daylight Time,

> >> rsfalls@... writes:

> >>

> >>

> >>> Hi -

> >>> Dr. G is also sending kids to UCLA Santa

> >>

> >> for the SPECT. This

> >>

> >>> facility is just NE of LAX (sort of between Dr.

> G

> >>

> >> and LAX) whereas

> >>

> >>> Harbor is further SE from LAX. Apparently

> neither

> >>

> >> facility is using the

> >>

> >>> Xenon now in the SPECTs, so it doesn't matter

> >>

> >> which facility you use.

> >>

> >>> Actually I was told to try Santa first if

> I

> >>

> >> could get in, and if

> >>

> >>> not to try Harbor. You can call Santa

> at:

> >>

> >> (310) 319-4880 and

> >>

> >>> speak to Virginia. BTW, the CPT code your

> >>

> >> insurance company needs to

> >>

> >>> verify coverage (for the scan) is: 78607. I

> would

> >>

> >> call again about

> >>

> >>> insurance coverage. Most major plans will cover

> >>

> >> 80-90% of the scan,

> >>

> >>> sometimes with a deductible.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> >> removed]

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> > =====

> > Barb Katsaros

> > barbkatsaros@...

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

They cost around $2500.

Most insurance covers the scan, most insurance does not cover the telephone

consults.

Re: NeuroSpect

> Sorry to say, since mine is covered, I did not ask.

>

>

> foxhillers@... wrote:

>

> > What do these SPECT scans usually cost if you have no insurance

coverage?

> > mjh

> >

> >

>

>

>

> Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> opinion of the Research Institute.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Barb Katsaros wrote:

> what is xenon and is it desirable or not?

It is a gas, but I have no clue what its role is in the SPECT scan. Dr.

G apparently likes to use it, but it looks like he will not have a

choice. At least the scan is supposed to be cheaper w/out the Xenon.

> have you

> seen dr. g yet?

One of my kids is already a patient, but I am taking the other child in

3 weeks. Since I was already talking to Dr. G about the one who is his

patient, I told him my other child would be a good candidate for a SPECT

(strange immune workup, but missing lots of the classic Autistic

symptoms, yet has significant Neurologic problems. Weird kid.)

> i was told by the receptionist that

> they will not write an order for a neurospect unless

> they have seen you first.

How is that supposed to work? It would not make sense to schedule the

SPECT while there and then go back a few weeks later. Something doesn't

sound right here.

> they also will not write

> orders for the labs, and i am trying to get a dr. to

> do it around here for me.

I wonder if things have changed? They sent me lab reqs for Quest with

all the tests marked and I took it straight to the lab.

> anyway, when i went to get

> an appt. at santa monica, i was told that they would

> not schedule my two boys without an order. harbour

> did it without an order, so for now, i guess we'll use

> them.

Santa scheduled us w/out orders (I spoke with Virginia), but of

course she reminded me that they will need the orders, so I'll follow-up

with them next week.

> but dr. g prefers s. monica?

That is what I was told this week.

> i don't get it.

> i do want to cont to pursue santa monica, tho as it is

> 20 min. from the airport vs. 45. we're a little

> nervous about driving in l.a. area.

It is hair-raising!

> we'll probably

> rent a car, but my husband talked about taking cabs.

> how was the traffic? any worse than the dan ryan in

> chicago?

As I live in Dallas, I can't compare to Chicago, but we did it with my

husband driving and I was navigating. Never would I let him give me

driving directions. You can rent a car with GPS but you still have to

contend with traffic and unfamiliar surroundings.

>

> when are you scheduled to see dr. g?

Sept. 9th.

> we are nov. 8 at

> 10:30. i would really like to have all my labs done

> for both boys before we go, so that dr. g will have

> everything he needs to give us the whole picture.

I think that is best, but I don't understand why Arlene won't send you

the needed reqs.

>

> take care. barb

[Guest guest]

Neurospect at Harbor cost $950 end January - we paid with credit card and

claim later.

It was around $1500 when the gas part was also done - these was discontinued

just before we went.

RW

Re: NeuroSpect

In a message dated 8/16/02 9:47:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

pere7201@... writes:

> They cost around $2500.

> Most insurance covers the scan, most insurance does not cover the

telephone

>

Thanks, we have no insurance.....

[Guest guest]

I found driving on LA freeways so easy compared to Asian driving,

and besides, you all drive on the wrong side of the road!! so I had to get

used to that too!!!

Getting to UCLA Harbor for Neurospect is very easy and straight forward -

took less than an hour from Tarzana, at abut 9.30am

RW

Re: NeuroSpect

Barb Katsaros wrote:

> what is xenon and is it desirable or not?

It is a gas, but I have no clue what its role is in the SPECT scan. Dr.

G apparently likes to use it, but it looks like he will not have a

choice. At least the scan is supposed to be cheaper w/out the Xenon.

> have you

> seen dr. g yet?

One of my kids is already a patient, but I am taking the other child in

3 weeks. Since I was already talking to Dr. G about the one who is his

patient, I told him my other child would be a good candidate for a SPECT

(strange immune workup, but missing lots of the classic Autistic

symptoms, yet has significant Neurologic problems. Weird kid.)

> i was told by the receptionist that

> they will not write an order for a neurospect unless

> they have seen you first.

How is that supposed to work? It would not make sense to schedule the

SPECT while there and then go back a few weeks later. Something doesn't

sound right here.

> they also will not write

> orders for the labs, and i am trying to get a dr. to

> do it around here for me.

I wonder if things have changed? They sent me lab reqs for Quest with

all the tests marked and I took it straight to the lab.

> anyway, when i went to get

> an appt. at santa monica, i was told that they would

> not schedule my two boys without an order. harbour

> did it without an order, so for now, i guess we'll use

> them.

Santa scheduled us w/out orders (I spoke with Virginia), but of

course she reminded me that they will need the orders, so I'll follow-up

with them next week.

> but dr. g prefers s. monica?

That is what I was told this week.

> i don't get it.

> i do want to cont to pursue santa monica, tho as it is

> 20 min. from the airport vs. 45. we're a little

> nervous about driving in l.a. area.

It is hair-raising!

> we'll probably

> rent a car, but my husband talked about taking cabs.

> how was the traffic? any worse than the dan ryan in

> chicago?

As I live in Dallas, I can't compare to Chicago, but we did it with my

husband driving and I was navigating. Never would I let him give me

driving directions. You can rent a car with GPS but you still have to

contend with traffic and unfamiliar surroundings.

>

> when are you scheduled to see dr. g?

Sept. 9th.

> we are nov. 8 at

> 10:30. i would really like to have all my labs done

> for both boys before we go, so that dr. g will have

> everything he needs to give us the whole picture.

I think that is best, but I don't understand why Arlene won't send you

the needed reqs.

>

> take care. barb

Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

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[Guest guest]

I have a question about the NeuroSpect test from those of you who have done

it or are planning to. In talking with our neurologist today, he said you

can't really get an accurate picture of consistent blood flow problems with

the Spect test because blood flow changes from moment to moment and depending

on what you are doing at the time of the test. He said he's done them to try

to localize seizure activity but has found them not to be terribly reliable

for treatment.

Now, this is a typical neuro but he seems to keep up on research and what's

going on in the field of autism, even on the more wholistic end, and has been

pretty upfront and relatively open-minded. I am filtering his comments

through the knowledge that other very good doctors have poo pooed other

things that have helped my son. But it makes sense that blood flow would

change as you change activities.

So, I'm curious to know if there is a special type of Spect Dr. G orders that

better ensures an accurate picture of typical blood flow for your child or if

he feels a one-time regular Spect is accurate enough to say that's a picture

of typical blood flow? I've read his presentation on this and found it

fascinating and exciting if it can help with treatment but wonder if it gives

a good enough picture to assume that's what's occuring most of the time?

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

Bonnie,

From what I understand...the majority don't have structural or other

problems that would show up on an MRI or CAT. In my sons case, he is

definitely . The Asperger symptoms respond to the protocol, and an

OCD flair only clears with antibiotics. (or months of a nightmare life for

him and everyone else)

There was a post regarding the new MRI and was kind enough to forward

Dr. Mena's thoughts.

/message/10223

Cheryl

>From: bonniedanphil@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: neurospect

>Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 22:09:43 EDT

>

>Hi Cheryl,

>thanks for replying. It is interesting that apergers and nvld show up that

>way. Do you mean, tho, that whether or not it is due to genetic structural

>problems or immune dysfunction cannot be determined by the Neurospect? So

>you

>are trying tDr. G's protocol and wll get your answer by the way that your

>son

>responds?Also, have you heard of the new soft tissue MRI? Can this be a new

>tool?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

this would be an excellent question to relay to dr.

goldberg. would you mind forwarding it to him and

perhaps he can reply via this email so all can read

it? barb

--- googahly@... wrote:

> I have a question about the NeuroSpect test from

> those of you who have done

> it or are planning to. In talking with our

> neurologist today, he said you

> can't really get an accurate picture of consistent

> blood flow problems with

> the Spect test because blood flow changes from

> moment to moment and depending

> on what you are doing at the time of the test. He

> said he's done them to try

> to localize seizure activity but has found them not

> to be terribly reliable

> for treatment.

>

> Now, this is a typical neuro but he seems to keep up

> on research and what's

> going on in the field of autism, even on the more

> wholistic end, and has been

> pretty upfront and relatively open-minded. I am

> filtering his comments

> through the knowledge that other very good doctors

> have poo pooed other

> things that have helped my son. But it makes sense

> that blood flow would

> change as you change activities.

>

> So, I'm curious to know if there is a special type

> of Spect Dr. G orders that

> better ensures an accurate picture of typical blood

> flow for your child or if

> he feels a one-time regular Spect is accurate enough

> to say that's a picture

> of typical blood flow? I've read his presentation

> on this and found it

> fascinating and exciting if it can help with

> treatment but wonder if it gives

> a good enough picture to assume that's what's

> occuring most of the time?

> Gaylen

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

=====

Barb Katsaros

barbkatsaros@...

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

sue1jeff2001 wrote:

> we are scheduled for a neuros[ect at ucla in nov. we were told

> various things which we would appreciate comments on-

>

> 1. my 3.5 year old could be sedated for the procedure.

Yes.

>

> 2. he had to fast for 6 hours prior to test.

Yes, but only if sedation is going to be used.

>

> 3. we had to arrive 2.5 hours beforew the test.

Probably for check-in and time to sedate. Then once they inject the

dye, they let it circulate about 20-30 minutes.

>

> 4 the test would take 1.5 hours.

The actual time with the machine was less than 45 minutes.

>

> 5. how accurate is a wet read?

If you mean, what they can tell you right there, all we were told was

" the image is clear " (no need to re-do due to blurriness.)

>

> we would appreciate comments regarding theaccuracy of the above

> statements. thank you very much.

>

We were at Santa -UCLA and it was so easy. The machine is very

quiet and you get to sit right there and watch. We did not opt for

sedation since our son is accustomed to long MRIs. Good luck.

[Guest guest]

at the Environmental Health Center (Dr Bill rea). The radiologist

was Dr Ted Simon.

Ann

> In a message dated 10/12/02 4:30:27 PM Central Daylight Time,

> worryfree97@y... writes:

>

>

> > We recently got a spect scan done at the recommendation our

> > environmental doctor in Dallas.

>

> Where in Dallas did you have it done?

> Gaylen

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/13/02 11:51:56 AM Central Daylight Time,

worryfree97@... writes:

> at the Environmental Health Center (Dr Bill rea). The radiologist

> was Dr Ted Simon.

>

We went there for awhile but gave up because their office staff was so

disorganized. Have you had any problem with this recently? It would be nice

to know if they have improved.

I'd be very interested in what you learn about how the tests compare. It

would be very nice to have an option close to home especially since I'm still

not quite ready to jump right into this test on the first visit. How much

did they charge for the test? Are they recommending some specific treatments

from the result? Would you mind letting me know what you learn about it?

Gaylen