Re: Water: distill and remineralize?

[Guest guest]

,

My thinking on water is along the same lines. Unfortunately my water is

fluoridated, and I can't afford to buy a distiller or RO unit, so I'm just using

the solid carbon block filter I already have (Multipure), which I think is

superior to something like Brita, although neither remove the fluoride.

ConcenTrace tastes pretty terrible. I can only stand about 3-4 drops per glass

of water. What the label says is one serving (40 drops) provides 250 mg. of

magnesium and 700 mg of chloride, just to give you an idea. I use the few drops

anyway, but I also use Crystal Energy which reduces the surface tension of

water.

Distilled water could be remineralizing by cooking bone broths with seaweed..

but for drinking water, it's a tough one.

[Guest guest]

,

I should revise what I said about ConcenTrace, since I just read the label which

I should have done a long time ago! It says:

" Distilled Water: Improve the flavor of distilled, RO or purified water. Adding

20-40 drops per gallon, or to taste, (2-4 drops per glass) compares to expensive

mineral water and adds a complete, balanced spectrum of low sodium minerals and

trace minerals. At 20 drops per gallon, 8 ounces will reminieralize 192

gallons. "

It doesn't actually taste salty (sodium is less than 10 mg per 40 drops), just a

strong mineral taste that is really unpleasant if you get more than a hint of

it.

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[Guest guest]

I use a mineral supplement called Intramin to remineralize my water. It is

expensive though ($50 a bottle). A friend of mine just uses a big pinch of sea

salt per gallon. I don't really think remineralized water is as good as the real

thing but there aren't a lot of good options. If I didn't have fluoride in my

water, I'd just go with a good carbon filter.

Barb

I've been going round and round the mulberry bush on the question of what

to do for water.

I used to buy and drink Poland Spring water, though I always wished I could

get it in glass jars instead of soft plastic jugs. For awhile I thought

distilling would be the best way to go, especially since distilled water

tastes so good, but then I found out that drinking distilled water is a

good way to lose minerals. Further reading seemed to indicate that reverse

osmosis with carbon post-filtration would be the way to go, but those

systems are way beyond my budget, and while they may remove the

fluoridation, they apparently also remove too many necessary minerals.

So now I'm wondering whether distillation may be the best way to go after

all -- it'll get rid of just about everything -- provided the water is

remineralized afterwards with some kind of supplement like

ConcenTrace. Certainly the startup costs would be much lower, as

distillers are quite cheap compared to good RO rigs, and as it sounds like

even RO-filtered water would need remineralization, the operating costs

would likely be similar.

One concern I have with remineralization is taste. I've tried azomite

powder, and while it's tolerable, I couldn't drink something with a strong

taste like that on a constant basis. Does ConcenTrace impart a salty taste

to water? How much would I have to add to each gallon? Is there a better

supplement?

As an interim solution I've been using a Pur faucet-mounted filter, but

this has been EXTREMELY dissatisfying for a whole variety of reasons. (If

my experience is any guide, avoid faucet-mounted filters like the

plague!) To keep things going for a little longer I replaced the Pur with

a Brita pitcher, but while this may eliminate a few of the problems I've

been having, it's still a lousy solution.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

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[Guest guest]

I guess you're new -- I posted about this yesterday:)

I've done some research and I think Mercola's right that distilled

water is bad to drink (and not just because it lacks minerals):

http://www.mercola.com/article/Diet/water/distilled_water.htm

I just ordered a countertop RO system from Ozark, listed in " Sources "

in Nourishing Traditions. They're very helpful and seem to really

know their stuff. I've been doing a lot of research about fluoride

and feel that getting it out of my water is vital. The RO should

arrived any day.

I'm not sure what to do about remineralizing though.

Daphne

[Guest guest]

The taste of water is something that you get used to, so it might help to

gradually over weeks increase the amount of ConcenTrace until you get up to

mineral content desired. People often say they prefer their well water,

while strangers will say it tastes funny.

Several places around here you can get reverse osmosis filtered water for 39

cents a gallon refilling your own bottle, which is pretty reasonable I

think. I abandoned my Britta filter because I figured it was more expensive

to buy the filters and change them as often as you should.

I'm new to this list. Don't remember hearing of ConcenTrace before.

Peace,

Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio

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From: <R@...>

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Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:21 PM

Subject: Re: Water: distill and remineralize?

> ,

>

> I should revise what I said about ConcenTrace, since I just read the label

which I should have done a long time ago! It says:

>

> " Distilled Water: Improve the flavor of distilled, RO or purified water.

Adding 20-40 drops per gallon, or to taste, (2-4 drops per glass) compares

to expensive mineral water and adds a complete, balanced spectrum of low

sodium minerals and trace minerals.. At 20 drops per gallon, 8 ounces will

reminieralize 192 gallons. "

>

> It doesn't actually taste salty (sodium is less than 10 mg per 40 drops),

just a strong mineral taste that is really unpleasant if you get more than a

hint of it.

>

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[Guest guest]

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You can check out the filter that Radiant Life has (forgot website address).

I use this filter:

http://www.wholly-water.com/

I bought a home water testing kit, and it comes up pure in all categories.

E-mail me privately if you want more info. about it.

Dana

----- Original Message -----

From: Idol

Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 4:55 PM

Subject: Water: distill and remineralize?

I've been going round and round the mulberry bush on the question of what

to do for water.

I used to buy and drink Poland Spring water, though I always wished I could

get it in glass jars instead of soft plastic jugs. For awhile I thought

distilling would be the best way to go, especially since distilled water

tastes so good, but then I found out that drinking distilled water is a

good way to lose minerals. Further reading seemed to indicate that reverse

osmosis with carbon post-filtration would be the way to go, but those

systems are way beyond my budget, and while they may remove the

fluoridation, they apparently also remove too many necessary minerals.

So now I'm wondering whether distillation may be the best way to go after

all -- it'll get rid of just about everything -- provided the water is

remineralized afterwards with some kind of supplement like

ConcenTrace. Certainly the startup costs would be much lower, as

distillers are quite cheap compared to good RO rigs, and as it sounds like

even RO-filtered water would need remineralization, the operating costs

would likely be similar.

One concern I have with remineralization is taste. I've tried azomite

powder, and while it's tolerable, I couldn't drink something with a strong

taste like that on a constant basis. Does ConcenTrace impart a salty taste

to water? How much would I have to add to each gallon? Is there a better

supplement?

As an interim solution I've been using a Pur faucet-mounted filter, but

this has been EXTREMELY dissatisfying for a whole variety of reasons. (If

my experience is any guide, avoid faucet-mounted filters like the

plague!) To keep things going for a little longer I replaced the Pur with

a Brita pitcher, but while this may eliminate a few of the problems I've

been having, it's still a lousy solution.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

-

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

(After trying for 24 hours, I think I've figured out this posting

thing again!)

The three problems with distillation, in our opinion, are:

1) in order to get all the toxic compounds out you really need to

distill water three times, or have three distillers in sequence.

2) There are now concerns with the leaching of lead into distilled

water by those cheaper stainless steel-based home units you refer to.

3) Distilled water is energetically chaotic and devitalized and

really needs to be restructured and " brought back to life " before

drinking.

While reverse osmosis also removes all the minerals, the one we

recommend takes out all the toxins because it has three purifiers, it

doesn't have that lead concern, and it is not nearly as chaotic and

agressive as distilled water though we recommend energetically

restructuring it first.

As for minerals ConcenTrace is fine, but yes it can give the water a

bitter taste if you add too much. We recommend adding it to taste

and not to make your water a nutritionally significant source of

minerals. The key is to rebalance and satisfy the purified

water's " aggresiveness. " We also like Coral Legend (ground up coral)

to add mineral ions. This has no taste though it can make the water

a bit milky looking if you add enough.

As for cost, it basically comes down to an investment in our own well-

being that is much cheaper up front than paying for expensive health

problems later in life. It really stinks that getting good water

should be such an ordeal and quest - in our " advanced " society you

would think.... But then look at the food....

I would be yakking about the wonders of restructured purified water

whether or not I sold a system, which I do, because of my research (9

years) and personal experience. I'd be happy to send you more info

on what we have discovered. If money is an issue I would save a

couple hundred dollars a year for a few years and in the meantime buy

water from the health food store RO dispensers, then remineralize

with the minerals of your choice. (We like the Crystal Energy too,

btw.) Lugging those big water bottles every week can really

strengthen your resolve to keep saving for a real good system! We

discourage getting cheap RO systems because their components are

usually so shoddy. You don't want your membrane breaking after just

a few months, when you will be drinking basically tap water again

without knowing it!

Best,

> [Original Message]

> From: Idol <Idol@...>

> < >

> Date: 1/27/2002 4:55:35 PM

> Subject: Water: distill and remineralize?

>

> I've been going round and round the mulberry bush on the question

of what

> to do for water.

>

> I used to buy and drink Poland Spring water, though I always wished

I could

> get it in glass jars instead of soft plastic jugs. For awhile I

thought

> distilling would be the best way to go, especially since distilled

water

> tastes so good, but then I found out that drinking distilled water

is a

> good way to lose minerals. Further reading seemed to indicate that

reverse

> osmosis with carbon post-filtration would be the way to go, but

those

> systems are way beyond my budget, and while they may remove the

> fluoridation, they apparently also remove too many necessary

minerals.

>

> So now I'm wondering whether distillation may be the best way to go

after

> all -- it'll get rid of just about everything -- provided the water

is

> remineralized afterwards with some kind of supplement like

> ConcenTrace. Certainly the startup costs would be much lower, as

> distillers are quite cheap compared to good RO rigs, and as it

sounds like

> even RO-filtered water would need remineralization, the operating

costs

> would likely be similar.

>

> One concern I have with remineralization is taste. I've tried

azomite

> powder, and while it's tolerable, I couldn't drink something with a

strong

> taste like that on a constant basis. Does ConcenTrace impart a

salty taste

> to water? How much would I have to add to each gallon? Is there a

better

> supplement?

>

> As an interim solution I've been using a Pur faucet-mounted filter,

but

> this has been EXTREMELY dissatisfying for a whole variety of

reasons. (If

> my experience is any guide, avoid faucet-mounted filters like the

> plague!) To keep things going for a little longer I replaced the

Pur with

> a Brita pitcher, but while this may eliminate a few of the problems

I've

> been having, it's still a lousy solution.

>

> Any advice would be much appreciated.

>

>

>

> -

[Guest guest]

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>1) in order to get all the toxic compounds out you really need to

>distill water three times, or have three distillers in sequence.

I've read that this depends on the quality of the distiller, and that with

a good one double-distillation is the most that's ever needed, and probably

not that. Not so?

>2) There are now concerns with the leaching of lead into distilled

>water by those cheaper stainless steel-based home units you refer to.

Lead? Damn. I'm already trying to avoid stainless steel for cooking

anything acidic; now I have to worry about lead?

>3) Distilled water is energetically chaotic and devitalized and

>really needs to be restructured and " brought back to life " before

>drinking.

This is something I've heard about but I don't understand at all as I

haven't seen any kind of explanation, scientific or otherwise. I'd greatly

appreciate it if you could shed some light on the subject.

>We also like Coral Legend (ground up coral)

>to add mineral ions. This has no taste though it can make the water

>a bit milky looking if you add enough.

Hmm, isn't that going to add a good deal of indigestible solid matter to

the water, though? Certainly a lack of taste sounds appealing, though!

>I'd be happy to send you more info

>on what we have discovered.

I'd appreciate it. I believe I emailed you a catalogue request recently;

if so, could you just include whatever extra information you have?

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[Guest guest]

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>At 20 drops per gallon, 8 ounces will reminieralize 192 gallons. "

Thanks! That sounds a lot more tolerable than 40 drops per day! <g>

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[Guest guest]

>1) in order to get all the toxic compounds out you really need to

>distill water three times, or have three distillers in sequence.

I've read that this depends on the quality of the distiller, and that

with

a good one double-distillation is the most that's ever needed, and

probably

not that. Not so?

CC: Two is pretty good but we aren't satisfied with " pretty good. "

>2) There are now concerns with the leaching of lead into distilled

>water by those cheaper stainless steel-based home units you refer to.

Lead? Damn. I'm already trying to avoid stainless steel for cooking

anything acidic; now I have to worry about lead?

CC: Anyone else have info on stainless distillers and lead? I can't

find the sources I learned about this from.

>3) Distilled water is energetically chaotic and devitalized and

>really needs to be restructured and " brought back to life " before

>drinking.

This is something I've heard about but I don't understand at all as I

haven't seen any kind of explanation, scientific or otherwise. I'd

greatly

appreciate it if you could shed some light on the subject.

CC: There is actually a fair amount of research out there on this -

some by metaphysicians, some by pure scientists, and some by those

with a foot in both worlds. The fascinating book " Secrets of the

Soil " has a lot to do with water, and names Steiner, Flanagan, and

Shauberger as important resources on the subject of water, if I'm not

mistaken. Also check out Emoto's " Messages from Water " out of

Japan. (We will be carrying it soon, btw.) He has developed a way

to see the effects of subtle and not so subtle forces on water

through watching water freeze and photographing the crystallization

patterns. You come away with a deep respect for water's ability

to " remember " what it has come into contact with. It underscores the

importance of water purification on the physical -and- energetic

levels. Our water researcher colleague has done research and found

that water that is triple purified and energetically restructured has

the potential of holding 10 to 100 times more energy (measured in

ORP) than just triple purified water. The reason this is significant

will become more apparent in the materials and catalog we are sending

you.

>We also like Coral Legend (ground up coral)

>to add mineral ions. This has no taste though it can make the water

>a bit milky looking if you add enough.

Hmm, isn't that going to add a good deal of indigestible solid matter

to

the water, though? Certainly a lack of taste sounds appealing,

though!

CC: Ground up coral is actually a very assimilatable form of

calcium/mag/and other minerals. It was discovered by researching

long lived peoples of the south pacific. This coral is not only

assimilatable but also alkalinizing, so it has the effect of

increasing the amount of oxygen your blood can carry, which is good,

and can be quite energizing.

Hope this helps,

Radiant Life

www.4radiantlife.com

(Sorry the water info is not on the site right now.)

[Guest guest]

Hello:

I use a solid carbon filter, distill and take minerals. When I can get

it, I buy SmartWater, which is filtered, RO water with calcium,

magnesium and potassium added back.

Shalom!

Carol in SE Illinois

Barb Carr wrote:

>I use a mineral supplement called Intramin to remineralize my water. It is

expensive though ($50 a bottle). A friend of mine just uses a big pinch of sea

salt per gallon. I don't really think remineralized water is as good as the real

thing but there aren't a lot of good options. If I didn't have fluoride in my

water, I'd just go with a good carbon filter.

>Barb

>

>

> I've been going round and round the mulberry bush on the question of what

> to do for water.

>

> I used to buy and drink Poland Spring water, though I always wished I could

> get it in glass jars instead of soft plastic jugs. For awhile I thought

> distilling would be the best way to go, especially since distilled water

> tastes so good, but then I found out that drinking distilled water is a

> good way to lose minerals. Further reading seemed to indicate that reverse

> osmosis with carbon post-filtration would be the way to go, but those

> systems are way beyond my budget, and while they may remove the

> fluoridation, they apparently also remove too many necessary minerals.

>

> So now I'm wondering whether distillation may be the best way to go after

> all -- it'll get rid of just about everything -- provided the water is

> remineralized afterwards with some kind of supplement like

> ConcenTrace. Certainly the startup costs would be much lower, as

> distillers are quite cheap compared to good RO rigs, and as it sounds like

> even RO-filtered water would need remineralization, the operating costs

> would likely be similar.

>

> One concern I have with remineralization is taste. I've tried azomite

> powder, and while it's tolerable, I couldn't drink something with a strong

> taste like that on a constant basis. Does ConcenTrace impart a salty taste

> to water? How much would I have to add to each gallon? Is there a better

> supplement?

>

> As an interim solution I've been using a Pur faucet-mounted filter, but

> this has been EXTREMELY dissatisfying for a whole variety of reasons. (If

> my experience is any guide, avoid faucet-mounted filters like the

> plague!) To keep things going for a little longer I replaced the Pur with

> a Brita pitcher, but while this may eliminate a few of the problems I've

> been having, it's still a lousy solution.

>

> Any advice would be much appreciated.

>

>

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