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My son does read and actually a good reader, but he does not understand concepts, cause and effect so reading something like the constitution would be way to overwelming and he would not get anything out of it. I gave it a try and after the first paragraph he got upset and said homework all finished. Do not get me wrong I am glad that they are trying to do more but for him I know its going to be a hard challenge with alot of meltdowns. I had him at this one school that all he did was color and stuff as if he was in preschool. I called a meeting and said what is he actually learning? He has been doing this for 3 years, I think he mastered it. So I told them I wanted him to be challenged. After a long fight, almost at the end of the year they did. He changed schools after that. Luckily I found a great school that he was in last year that really

challenged him. We live in Illinois. But maybe I can try to make it fun for him and read alittle each time. Maybe I will try to animate it. I may have to use his sister to help maybe act it out some how. So you are right. Its better that they are trying to make him excel rather than not challenging him. I wonder if you have anything at home that he does, maybe art, or work that he likes to do? Or maybe have him do some work so they can see.I had to bring examples from home to show the school what he was doing so that they could see that he was able. I am now seeing with your email that maybe what they gave me for him was not such a negative, when I look back and see that I was where you are. I hope that my email helps you in some way.

Rhonda> > From: kathytrilla <kathytrilla@ ...>> Subject: 2 nd grade work> To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com> Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:03 PM> > > > > > > Hi its me again!! Another thing that happened today with my son at > school was that he went into a regular classroom today (he is in a self > contained with opportunity to go into a main stream class on occasion) > he came home with the paper that they did in that room. ITS ANOTHER > DISNEY CHARACTER THAT HE COLORED. Is this what second grade main > stream classes

do? I cant believe this. When are they going to > actually teach my son instead of preschool work? Sorry I am just > disgusted. Kathy>

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Rhonda, I live in orland park illinois. I can see my son saying the

same thing about homework all finished. They just dont have the

attention span after such a challenging day at school. I just wish

they would challenge my son more. He has been doing the same stuff

since he was three and now he is seven. Enough already is what I

say. He is capable. It is a shame I have to spend more money with

testing to prove it . I feel school should be teaching him. in A

regular classroom I wouldnt have to prove his capablity. They just

dont know how to teach a child that is nonverbal. Did you see my

previous post? Would you continue to send your son on the bus?

Thanks for helping me. Kathy

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> > From: kathytrilla <kathytrilla@ ...>

> > Subject: 2 nd grade work

> > To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:03 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi its me again!! Another thing that happened today with my son

at

> > school was that he went into a regular classroom today (he is in

a

> self

> > contained with opportunity to go into a main stream class on

> occasion)

> > he came home with the paper that they did in that room. ITS

ANOTHER

> > DISNEY CHARACTER THAT HE COLORED. Is this what second grade main

> > stream classes do? I cant believe this. When are they going to

> > actually teach my son instead of preschool work? Sorry I am just

> > disgusted. Kathy

> >

>

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Hi,educational needs of children on the spectrum are such a

challenge. My children get so much homework I keep asking what do

they do all day. All that homework really amounts to giving me

homework. How is sitting in the classroom helping them learn if they

are given alternate assignments,like coloring. A teacher took a test

from my son before he was finished. He fought the teacher because he

wanted to finish the test. I was told ALL children are given extra

time for tests as a rule for our school. All they need to do is

ask...my son does not have the verbal skills or reasoning to ask. He

hit the teacher for ripping the test out of his hand. My thought was

the teacher could have offered more time. This approach wasnt fair to

the mainstream class. Its those battles that wear you out. I have

also been told my son chooses not to do his work. I really have

trouble with that statement. If he doesnt know how to do the

assignment of course he will not do it. Is he really choosing not to?

I think not. Our kids need the help comfort and kindness of preschool

with the exploration of learning styles that click for them with an

advancing approach to education needs. Mainstream classrooms are not

based in this manner as children mature. Its a classroom ideal not a

reality yet. I share your concerns about our childrens educational

needs.

Best wishes,

Tishanne

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> My son does read and actually a good reader, but he does not

understand concepts, cause and effect so reading something like the

constitution would be way to overwelming and he would not get

anything out of it. I gave it a try and after the first paragraph he

got upset and said homework all finished. Do not get me wrong  I am

glad that they are trying to do more but for him I know its going to

be a hard challenge with alot of meltdowns. I had him at this one

school that all he did was color and stuff as if he was in preschool.

I called a meeting and said what is he actually learning? He has been

doing this for 3 years, I think he mastered it. So I told them I

wanted him to be challenged. After a long fight, almost at the end of

the year they did. He changed schools after that. Luckily I found a

great school that he was in last year that really challenged him. We

live in Illinois. But maybe I can try to make it fun for him and read

alittle each time.

> Maybe I will try to animate it. I may have to use his sister to

help maybe act it out some how. So you are right. Its better that

they are trying to make him excel rather than not challenging him. I

wonder if you have anything at home that he does, maybe art, or work

that he likes to do?  Or maybe have him do some work so they can

see.I had to bring examples from home to show the school what he was

doing so that they could see that he was able. I am now seeing with

your email that maybe what they gave me for him was not such a

negative, when I look back and see that I was where you are. I hope

that my email helps you in some way.

> Rhonda

>

>

> >

> > From: kathytrilla <kathytrilla@ ...>

> > Subject: 2 nd grade work

> > To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:03 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi its me again!! Another thing that happened today with my son

at

> > school was that he went into a regular classroom today (he is in

a

> self

> > contained with opportunity to go into a main stream class on

> occasion)

> > he came home with the paper that they did in that room. ITS

ANOTHER

> > DISNEY CHARACTER THAT HE COLORED. Is this what second grade main

> > stream classes do? I cant believe this. When are they going to

> > actually teach my son instead of preschool work? Sorry I am just

> > disgusted. Kathy

> >

>

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Thanks for telling us that. I appreciate others view. Kathy

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> From: kathytrilla <kathytrilla@ yahoo.com>

> Subject: 2 nd grade work

> To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:03 PM

>

>

> Hi its me again!! Another thing that happened today with my son at

> school was that he went into a regular classroom today (he is in a

self

> contained with opportunity to go into a main stream class on

occasion)

> he came home with the paper that they did in that room. ITS ANOTHER

> DISNEY CHARACTER THAT HE COLORED. Is this what second grade main

> stream classes do? I cant believe this. When are they going to

> actually teach my son instead of preschool work? Sorry I am just

> disgusted. Kathy

>

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When my son Bronson was in Elementary school I always wondered WHY

they'd give such young children SO much homework?? It was CRAZY!! He

was SO slow due to his Autism/developmental delay problems that he

could NEVER get finished in time to play at all...and that was when I

would help him. He barely had time to take a bath and get in bed on

time!! DON'T DO what I did either...I got so frustrated with the

teachers piling the work on him, that I started doing a LOT of his

work for him...Then I came to my senses and realized that Bronson was

NOT learning ANYTHING, and doing it for him just to keep him OUT OF

TROUBLE (can you believe that??) was NOT fair to HIM. So I demanded an

IEP and then I took everyone that could help me to the IEP and we sat

down and told those teachers what was going on... Believe it or not,

they wanted me to load him up on MORE DRUGS to help his ADD... All

drugs did for Bronson was ZONE HIM OUT MORE.. Anyway, I have lost a

LOT of faith in the medical and educational fields when it comes to

helping kids with any handicaps, etc. It amazes me how quick doctors

are to write out a script these days... In my town, which isn't teeny

tiny but still NOT large by any means (pop.around 37,449), there are

NO resources for Autistic kids. I'd have to travel to Birmingham,

Alabama (about 3 hour drive) to find adequate help. So I'm stuck with

what is available here in Florence...which is sorely LACKING... I

sincerely hope you can find help in your area, whether it be

educational, medical, or whatever. Many blessings, :-) DIANE

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> > > From: kathytrilla <kathytrilla@ ...>

> > > Subject: 2 nd grade work

> > > To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:03 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi its me again!! Another thing that happened today with my son

> at

> > > school was that he went into a regular classroom today (he is in

> a

> > self

> > > contained with opportunity to go into a main stream class on

> > occasion)

> > > he came home with the paper that they did in that room. ITS

> ANOTHER

> > > DISNEY CHARACTER THAT HE COLORED. Is this what second grade main

> > > stream classes do? I cant believe this. When are they going to

> > > actually teach my son instead of preschool work? Sorry I am just

> > > disgusted. Kathy

> > >

> >

>

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My daughter is mainstreamed in science and social studies. But in her

IEP it is stated that in these two classes she is graded as pass/fail

not with an actual grade and that her work is to be modified, that

includes test. Her spec. ed teacher is given her test about four days

in advance then that teacher (and me, sometimes) modifies the test.

She is only given half as many questions as the other children and it

is only the questions with the main concepts not hypothetical

questions. When we study at home I modify the answers so they are

short and simple and then I make everything into flashcards. Then I

send the flashcards to school so when she studies she is studying the

same answers.

EVERYTHING can be modified!!

> > > >

> > > > From: kathytrilla <kathytrilla@ ...>

> > > > Subject: 2 nd grade work

> > > > To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:03 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi its me again!! Another thing that happened today with my

son

> > at

> > > > school was that he went into a regular classroom today (he is

in

> > a

> > > self

> > > > contained with opportunity to go into a main stream class on

> > > occasion)

> > > > he came home with the paper that they did in that room. ITS

> > ANOTHER

> > > > DISNEY CHARACTER THAT HE COLORED. Is this what second grade

main

> > > > stream classes do? I cant believe this. When are they going

to

> > > > actually teach my son instead of preschool work? Sorry I am

just

> > > > disgusted. Kathy

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Yes, my son is NOW getting the help he needs in school, now that he's

in High School. But in Elementary school he wasn't, even though I kept

telling the teachers and the Principal (who also tried to EXPEL him a

few times) that he was Autistic. She(Principal) acted like she didn't

believe me, and wanted to know what his diagnosis was and how to get

in touch with his doctor, etc... All she (Principal) wanted to do was

paddle Bronson even though I clearly stated NOT to paddle on his

enrollment card every year. I had more arguments with that crazy lady

than I care to remember... :-( DIANE

> > > > >

> > > > > From: kathytrilla <kathytrilla@ ...>

> > > > > Subject: 2 nd grade work

> > > > > To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:03 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi its me again!! Another thing that happened today with my

> son

> > > at

> > > > > school was that he went into a regular classroom today (he is

> in

> > > a

> > > > self

> > > > > contained with opportunity to go into a main stream class on

> > > > occasion)

> > > > > he came home with the paper that they did in that room. ITS

> > > ANOTHER

> > > > > DISNEY CHARACTER THAT HE COLORED. Is this what second grade

> main

> > > > > stream classes do? I cant believe this. When are they going

> to

> > > > > actually teach my son instead of preschool work? Sorry I am

> just

> > > > > disgusted. Kathy

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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