Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 Marcella: Dr. M's suggestions are right on the money. I'd also suggest cooking your soaked grains in a mix of home-made bone broth and water. This is a way to get two nutrient-dense foods simultaneously that taste good. Also remember that most of the really nutritious vegetables are the cheapest: Onions, zucchini, sweet potatoes, potatoes, cabbage, and carrots. SCB _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2002 Report Share Posted January 27, 2002 I just wanted to thank everyone for all their suggestions. So far I have checked out a local farmers market but for some reason all their meat is corn fed and from the midwest. I found some soup bones from hormone free beef that were $1 a pound. There are some places around here where there are cattle grazing and there is a sign saying something like " campground beefmaster " . I never paid any more attention to them though than all the " Tyson " chicken farm signs. I am going to check them out though. We are going to try a garden this year. I haven't had one in a while due to apt living. We are going to have about $160 a month for food for a few months and it will be better after that. At 30 days a month, 90 meals a month, that gives me $1.77 per meal for three of us. Yikes!! But we do have all the grains and beans we could need for during that time so that is actually $1.77 for animal products and fruits and vegetables per meal. We have some extra money but I am investing that in plants and animals that will give us a higher return. Thank you Dr. for all your suggestions as to what was most important for us nutritionally. I know I am very nutritionally drained right now. I have two little boys that are a 1 yr and 4 days apart and am nursing the youngest full time. I had to cut my nails off this week because they were interfering with me accomplishing things. They are so soft that they kept bending backwards at every little bump into them. Is this a calcium deficiency? My 1yo gets raw goats milk but I can't stand the taste. It is raw and grassfed and what we can't use fresh is frozen right away. It might be the the sense of smell I have had while pregnant and nursing but it just disgusts me. It has to be in minute amounts in cooked foods so I can't tell. I would love raw cows milk but I am allergic to cows milk so I don't know if I could handle it. Anyway, just wondering if you thought the bendy nails might be a lack of calcium. They have always been bad but never like this. Marcella >From: " drmichaelmarasco " <mmarasco@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Which is better? >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:39:28 -0000 > >Dear Marcella, > First let's discuss what you DON'T need to waste you limited >resources on. Expensive cuts of muscle meats are over rated and over >consumed. I could list several reasons as to at the very least limit >your muscle meat consumption. It is true that an occasional really >tender cut of expensive muscle meat steak is fun and delicious, it is >not in any way a staple. So save your money and let the butcher sell >the muscle meats to someone else, if you want and can afford to have >a little that's fine. > The two meat products that you should be most interested in are >organ meats and bones. Fortunately most people don't have the >foggiest idea what to do with these or know that they should and >therefore these are much cheaper. Your best bet on acquiring these >on a budget is NOT at your local grocer or health food store but >instead doing some leg work and locating local farmers and finding >out who has the high quality stuff. They may not be certified >organic but you can actually go to the farm if its local and see >things first hand. Many times they'll just be happy to get rid of >these items as there may be too much for them and nobody else wants >them. > As you may know there are many valuable nutrients in meats >especially organ meats. However in my opinion the most critical is >the amino acids found there (specific proteins). Here is where you >will get the most bang for your buck. Find a source of the leftover >bones. Neck, leg, hoof, spine, rib, tail, etc these you can often >get anywhere from .50 to $2 per pound depending on the farmer. And >they are usually available in abundance as they are not big sellers >hence they're cheap. If I could not afford any other foods I would >get a hold of bones and make broths. As far as meat oriented staples >go I would say there is no more valuable than the bone broth. >Second would be the organ meats. Sally has terrific recipies for >these detalied in her book and I'm certain if you have questions >anyone on this site or the WPF site or email me and you can get any >answers you may need with preparation instructions. I can not stress >the value of making cheap easy bone broth for you and your family >enough. > Eggs are another excellent cheap food for you. Also you need to >find local people selling them. We get eggs from roaming chickens >who eat lots of bugs and have lots of sex for $1 for a dozen. The >quality doesn't get any better. Don't waste your money on " omega " >type eggs as they are more expensive often times and the nutrient >profile I feel is better in the non grain fed egg. > As for your fruits and vegetables I suggest driving around your >neighborhood and find out who has a garden and befriend them. They >will have extra for sure, there always is and they will give you >some. Even if its not organic it will certainly be better than the >oversprayed aged deficient stuff at the grocery. This is kind of >tongue and cheek however it will work. Also again look for local >farmers who let you pick your own fruits or veggies for a small fee. >You can eat much of the fresh picks and freeze the rest for later. >We have done that here in Ohio at times and got over $250 worth of >fruit for less than $50. Another option is find a local cooperative, >csa or farmer and offer to trade a few hours of work each week for >food, especially in Georgia those opportunities should abound. >Another option which I'm sure has occurred to you is you could grow >your own garden. If you cannot afford to buy seeds my wife and I >keep a very nice garden and I would be happy to give you our seeds. >You can have a garden on your own land, in a large pot on an >apartment balcony or patio, or even approach a farmer or land owner >who might let you use their land to grow a garden if you shared some >of the harvest. > As you know you can make your own soaked grain and sourdough >grain foods dirt cheap and provided you tolerate them well and you >prepare them properly, by all means eat them. > The one place where if at all possible I would do my very best >not to skimp would be on butter and or coconut oil. There are no >substitutes for these and they are essential in your diet so if I had >to spend my extra money in any one place it would be on the best >grassfed butter I could find. > Marcella I don't know how short your resources are, however I am >confident at the very least you can produce daily meals based in bone >broth, eggs/organs, veggies and butter along with some of the yummy >fresh properly prepared grains you'll grind and make on a really >tight budget. And on that you'll be the healthiest people in the >neighborhood. > >Should you have any questions please feel free to email me at >mmarasco@... I'll be happy to help. > >Also look at the website www.eatwild.com as they will list for you >some of the high quality farmers in your state. > >All My Best, >Dr. Marasco >Cincinnati, OH > > > > > >--- In @y..., " Marcella Mathewes " <honoraholmes@h...> >wrote: > > We are basically poor. My husband is a full time student and we >have two > > baby boys and I am nursing the youngest full time. We are on a >budget. Meat > > is just really expensive and that is the grain fed hormone laced >stuff. > > Would it be better to increase the animal products in our diet >using the > > grain fed stuff or to just have more fruits and vegetables? I am >just not > > sure where to spend the money at the grocery store. As far as good >foods go, > > what is most important for us? What should I buy first? I actually >have > > loads of organic grains but I don't want to fill my son up on that >when > > meats and vegetables are more nutritious. I am working on a >sourdour starter > > so I can make sourdough bread. I have a mill so we can have fresh >bread. I > > personally am allergic to wheat and need something else to fill up >on and we > > can't afford to fill up on meat. I plan to get some chickens soon >but it > > will be awhile before we get anything from them. Any advice? At >this point > > we are going to be foraging snails at dusk when it warms up. lol! > > > > Marcella > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: >http://mobile.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2002 Report Share Posted January 27, 2002 Marcella, I'm glad you've gotten some help here that's what this is all about. And I'm glad you found my post helpful also. In regard to your nails and your $1.79 per meal ... can you say " Bone Broth " ? If you need any further help. Or if you'd like me to elaborate on that a little more just email me or post here and I'll chat with you about it. All My Best, Dr. Marasco --- In @y..., " Marcella Mathewes " <honoraholmes@h...> wrote: > > I just wanted to thank everyone for all their suggestions. So far I have > checked out a local farmers market but for some reason all their meat is > corn fed and from the midwest. I found some soup bones from hormone free > beef that were $1 a pound. There are some places around here where there are > cattle grazing and there is a sign saying something like " campground > beefmaster " . I never paid any more attention to them though than all the > " Tyson " chicken farm signs. I am going to check them out though. We are > going to try a garden this year. I haven't had one in a while due to apt > living. We are going to have about $160 a month for food for a few months > and it will be better after that. At 30 days a month, 90 meals a month, that > gives me $1.77 per meal for three of us. Yikes!! But we do have all the > grains and beans we could need for during that time so that is actually > $1.77 for animal products and fruits and vegetables per meal. We have some > extra money but I am investing that in plants and animals that will give us > a higher return. > > Thank you Dr. for all your suggestions as to what was most important > for us nutritionally. I know I am very nutritionally drained right now. I > have two little boys that are a 1 yr and 4 days apart and am nursing the > youngest full time. I had to cut my nails off this week because they were > interfering with me accomplishing things. They are so soft that they kept > bending backwards at every little bump into them. Is this a calcium > deficiency? My 1yo gets raw goats milk but I can't stand the taste. It is > raw and grassfed and what we can't use fresh is frozen right away. It might > be the the sense of smell I have had while pregnant and nursing but it just > disgusts me. It has to be in minute amounts in cooked foods so I can't tell. > I would love raw cows milk but I am allergic to cows milk so I don't know if > I could handle it. Anyway, just wondering if you thought the bendy nails > might be a lack of calcium. They have always been bad but never like this. > > Marcella > > >From: " drmichaelmarasco " <mmarasco@c...> > >Reply- @y... > > @y... > >Subject: Re: Which is better? > >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:39:28 -0000 > > > >Dear Marcella, > > First let's discuss what you DON'T need to waste you limited > >resources on. Expensive cuts of muscle meats are over rated and over > >consumed. I could list several reasons as to at the very least limit > >your muscle meat consumption. It is true that an occasional really > >tender cut of expensive muscle meat steak is fun and delicious, it is > >not in any way a staple. So save your money and let the butcher sell > >the muscle meats to someone else, if you want and can afford to have > >a little that's fine. > > The two meat products that you should be most interested in are > >organ meats and bones. Fortunately most people don't have the > >foggiest idea what to do with these or know that they should and > >therefore these are much cheaper. Your best bet on acquiring these > >on a budget is NOT at your local grocer or health food store but > >instead doing some leg work and locating local farmers and finding > >out who has the high quality stuff. They may not be certified > >organic but you can actually go to the farm if its local and see > >things first hand. Many times they'll just be happy to get rid of > >these items as there may be too much for them and nobody else wants > >them. > > As you may know there are many valuable nutrients in meats > >especially organ meats. However in my opinion the most critical is > >the amino acids found there (specific proteins). Here is where you > >will get the most bang for your buck. Find a source of the leftover > >bones. Neck, leg, hoof, spine, rib, tail, etc these you can often > >get anywhere from .50 to $2 per pound depending on the farmer. And > >they are usually available in abundance as they are not big sellers > >hence they're cheap. If I could not afford any other foods I would > >get a hold of bones and make broths. As far as meat oriented staples > >go I would say there is no more valuable than the bone broth. > >Second would be the organ meats. Sally has terrific recipies for > >these detalied in her book and I'm certain if you have questions > >anyone on this site or the WPF site or email me and you can get any > >answers you may need with preparation instructions. I can not stress > >the value of making cheap easy bone broth for you and your family > >enough. > > Eggs are another excellent cheap food for you. Also you need to > >find local people selling them. We get eggs from roaming chickens > >who eat lots of bugs and have lots of sex for $1 for a dozen. The > >quality doesn't get any better. Don't waste your money on " omega " > >type eggs as they are more expensive often times and the nutrient > >profile I feel is better in the non grain fed egg. > > As for your fruits and vegetables I suggest driving around your > >neighborhood and find out who has a garden and befriend them. They > >will have extra for sure, there always is and they will give you > >some. Even if its not organic it will certainly be better than the > >oversprayed aged deficient stuff at the grocery. This is kind of > >tongue and cheek however it will work. Also again look for local > >farmers who let you pick your own fruits or veggies for a small fee. > >You can eat much of the fresh picks and freeze the rest for later. > >We have done that here in Ohio at times and got over $250 worth of > >fruit for less than $50. Another option is find a local cooperative, > >csa or farmer and offer to trade a few hours of work each week for > >food, especially in Georgia those opportunities should abound. > >Another option which I'm sure has occurred to you is you could grow > >your own garden. If you cannot afford to buy seeds my wife and I > >keep a very nice garden and I would be happy to give you our seeds. > >You can have a garden on your own land, in a large pot on an > >apartment balcony or patio, or even approach a farmer or land owner > >who might let you use their land to grow a garden if you shared some > >of the harvest. > > As you know you can make your own soaked grain and sourdough > >grain foods dirt cheap and provided you tolerate them well and you > >prepare them properly, by all means eat them. > > The one place where if at all possible I would do my very best > >not to skimp would be on butter and or coconut oil. There are no > >substitutes for these and they are essential in your diet so if I had > >to spend my extra money in any one place it would be on the best > >grassfed butter I could find. > > Marcella I don't know how short your resources are, however I am > >confident at the very least you can produce daily meals based in bone > >broth, eggs/organs, veggies and butter along with some of the yummy > >fresh properly prepared grains you'll grind and make on a really > >tight budget. And on that you'll be the healthiest people in the > >neighborhood. > > > >Should you have any questions please feel free to email me at > >mmarasco@c... I'll be happy to help. > > > >Also look at the website www.eatwild.com as they will list for you > >some of the high quality farmers in your state. > > > >All My Best, > >Dr. Marasco > >Cincinnati, OH > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In @y..., " Marcella Mathewes " <honoraholmes@h...> > >wrote: > > > We are basically poor. My husband is a full time student and we > >have two > > > baby boys and I am nursing the youngest full time. We are on a > >budget. Meat > > > is just really expensive and that is the grain fed hormone laced > >stuff. > > > Would it be better to increase the animal products in our diet > >using the > > > grain fed stuff or to just have more fruits and vegetables? I am > >just not > > > sure where to spend the money at the grocery store. As far as good > >foods go, > > > what is most important for us? What should I buy first? I actually > >have > > > loads of organic grains but I don't want to fill my son up on that > >when > > > meats and vegetables are more nutritious. I am working on a > >sourdour starter > > > so I can make sourdough bread. I have a mill so we can have fresh > >bread. I > > > personally am allergic to wheat and need something else to fill up > >on and we > > > can't afford to fill up on meat. I plan to get some chickens soon > >but it > > > will be awhile before we get anything from them. Any advice? At > >this point > > > we are going to be foraging snails at dusk when it warms up. lol! > > > > > > Marcella > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: > >http://mobile.msn.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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