[sickbuildings] Update with dr's here making comments.Re:Mysterious Death After Gardening

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" robert christ " wrote:

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> ,

> Despite our differences, I just want to say you are my inspiration

as far as avoidance goes and your message that " you can get better " .

After I moved out of my house in early 03 and was still sick I pretty

much figured this is the way it's going to be. (this is what I mean

by fooling ourselves I didn't want to face the truth that just moving

wasn't going to do it.)

>

I think I even read a post or two of yours on SB talking about how

you were climbing mountains in 01 or 02. My thoughts than were " what

a blow hard " .

> When if I had any brains I would of been picking your brain clean

on every last detail of how you did it.

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, thanks for helping my understand the strange conundrum I'm

in.

When I try to explain the full dramatic nature of my experience,

people are revolted at how audacious it sounds.

But if I express it in lesser terms, it's then seen as a lesser

experience not warranting of interest.

I adapted my training in biological warfare protocols from the Army

to develope this strategy.

I was forced into a more concerted method because doing less simply

wasn't helping me control my symptoms or recover.

It's not like I wanted to do this, but I have nothing else in the

way of viable alternate options.

I looked around in various groups because I wondered how many others

are out there who are stuck in a similar situation, but don't have

this type of training to resort to.

Just as I feared, it looks like there might be quite a few.

-MW

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You described the conundrum very well:

When I try to explain the full dramatic nature of my experience, people are revolted at how audacious it sounds. But if I express it in lesser terms, it's then seen as a lesser experience not warranting of interest.

My experience in trying to train people to do what I do is similar. If they haven't experienced a strong, persistent impact themselves they automatically doubt what they hear from clients. Nothing productive comes from that, only the clash of polar opposite belief systems - scientific (truth) vs anecdotal (fraud).

Those affected but quickly solved have no desire to be associated with " sickies " and move on with blinders.

Those who understand the experience and want to help are usually too sick to work. A few volunteer their time as they are able.

The climate is changing, as more members of this group recognize, but oh so slowly!

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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>

> , thanks for helping my understand the strange conundrum I'm

> in.

> When I try to explain the full dramatic nature of my experience,

> people are revolted at how audacious it sounds.

> But if I express it in lesser terms, it's then seen as a lesser

> experience not warranting of interest.

>

> I adapted my training in biological warfare protocols from the Army

> to develope this strategy.

> I was forced into a more concerted method because doing less simply

> wasn't helping me control my symptoms or recover.

> It's not like I wanted to do this, but I have nothing else in the

> way of viable alternate options.

> I looked around in various groups because I wondered how many others

> are out there who are stuck in a similar situation, but don't have

> this type of training to resort to.

> Just as I feared, it looks like there might be quite a few.

> -MW

>

>

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