Re: Re: Standard Process vitamins & synthetics

[Guest guest]

and Everyone:

There is no need to apologize. Synthetic isolates have their place in

treatments and you're right that food is preferred and that supplements are

cheating. I was mostly criticizing SP for constantly advertising that their

supplements are " natural " and " food based, " when, in many instances, they

are not. This does not mean that their supplements are worthless, only that

they are not always what they are claimed to be.

SCB

>From: " drmichaelmarasco " <mmarasco@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Standard Process vitamins & synthetics

>Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 23:33:13 -0000

>

>I apologize for posting this opinion a second time as I posted on

>this topic earlier but am unsure if I posted it properly.

>

>Firstly I want to apologize for taking such a contrary position to

> on this one. I have great respect for you as a

>professional and have admired your work from afar and will continue

>to do so, however we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

>

>To say that Standard Process is " anything but whole food " is at the

>very least extremely overstated. Yes it is true that they produce

>some products with synthetic vitamins added however there is more to

>it than the above blanket statement.

>

>#1 We'll use their vitamin C product Cataplex C. It is a 500mg

>tablet with 5mg of ascorbic acid added. I am in complete agreement

>that this does not belong in a whole food vit c supplement however

>the FDA as you may know determines a vit c supplement to be vit c

>based on how much ascorbic acid is in the supplement. It is similar

>to the fact that " natural " thyroid prescription medication is now

>considered suppplemntal thyroid by the FDA if it has a prescribed

>amount of Iodine in it. The amount of actual thyroid and vitamin c

>in the product is not relavent to the FDA. So in spite of the fact

>that ascorbic acid has nothing to do with vit c and Iodine has

>nothing to do with glandular thyroid these are the issues of the FDA.

>

>The Standard Process track record speaks for itself. You will find

>no more immaculate and cared for farmland in this country or any

>other for that matter. The supplements have superior food sources

>that no other company can even approach.

>

>#2 Let's be clear about one thing. Supplements are cheating.

>Nutrition is to be gotten from food not bottles or pills. So the

>discusion of potency is nearly silly in my opinion. The idea is not

>to concentrate Massive amounts of a particular vitamin or mineral

>synthetic or not and ingest as much of that nutrient as possible.

>The idea is that you supplement to simply fill in any gaps that are

>unfilled in the diet. No more and no less. So the " potency " issue

>is a non issue.

>

>Does Standard Process produce some items in their line that stink and

>have more than miniscule amounts of synthetic vitamins in them? Yes.

>Do I recommend that patients use those particular supplements? No.

>Is there any Company using the quality of food sources that SP uses?

>No.

>Is there any other supplement company in the US that has a 70 plus

>year track record of quality supplements made from food? No.

>

>The bottom line is this, there are things that SP does that I don't

>agree with, however whenever I find myself saying silly things like I

>don't agree with EVERYTHING so and so does I realize that there is

>nobody and no company that I can actually say I agree with EVERYTHING

>they do. So its ridiculous to expect that we should. I have used SP

>personally as has my family, colleagues, patients and clients for

>many years with nothing short of stellar results. I have used " whole

>food " supplements at times from other companies such as Doctor's

>Research and one or two others however when the big picture is taken

>into account and the benefits of using the whole food based aspects

>of the SP product line are analyzed SP is clearly in a class by

>itself. When other companies can put the pristine food products that

>are put into SP products into their own products then there may be

>some room for debate, but until then it's SP. Hands down.

>

>Again I want to apologize to for my dissonance and just say

>that we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. And

>considering that we are in full agreement on where the real nutrition

>comes from, there's not much disagreement at all.

>

>Sincerely,

>Dr. Marasco

>

>

All the best,

Byrnes, PhD, RNCP

http://www.PowerHealth.net

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[Guest guest]

I must agree with you. We have had time and time again used these products and

they work wonderfully! They also have a great trace mineral product we have

started to use since we use reverse osmosis water. It is Allorganic Trace

Minerals-B12. We have eaten well for many years but our children have continued

to have tooth decay. We are beginning to think this was part of the problem.

Shari

----- Original Message -----

From: drmichaelmarasco

Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 5:33 PM

Subject: Re: Standard Process vitamins & synthetics

I apologize for posting this opinion a second time as I posted on

this topic earlier but am unsure if I posted it properly.

Firstly I want to apologize for taking such a contrary position to

on this one. I have great respect for you as a

professional and have admired your work from afar and will continue

to do so, however we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

To say that Standard Process is " anything but whole food " is at the

very least extremely overstated. Yes it is true that they produce

some products with synthetic vitamins added however there is more to

it than the above blanket statement.

#1 We'll use their vitamin C product Cataplex C. It is a 500mg

tablet with 5mg of ascorbic acid added. I am in complete agreement

that this does not belong in a whole food vit c supplement however

the FDA as you may know determines a vit c supplement to be vit c

based on how much ascorbic acid is in the supplement. It is similar

to the fact that " natural " thyroid prescription medication is now

considered suppplemntal thyroid by the FDA if it has a prescribed

amount of Iodine in it. The amount of actual thyroid and vitamin c

in the product is not relavent to the FDA. So in spite of the fact

that ascorbic acid has nothing to do with vit c and Iodine has

nothing to do with glandular thyroid these are the issues of the FDA.

The Standard Process track record speaks for itself. You will find

no more immaculate and cared for farmland in this country or any

other for that matter. The supplements have superior food sources

that no other company can even approach.

#2 Let's be clear about one thing. Supplements are cheating.

Nutrition is to be gotten from food not bottles or pills. So the

discusion of potency is nearly silly in my opinion. The idea is not

to concentrate Massive amounts of a particular vitamin or mineral

synthetic or not and ingest as much of that nutrient as possible.

The idea is that you supplement to simply fill in any gaps that are

unfilled in the diet. No more and no less. So the " potency " issue

is a non issue.

Does Standard Process produce some items in their line that stink and

have more than miniscule amounts of synthetic vitamins in them? Yes.

Do I recommend that patients use those particular supplements? No.

Is there any Company using the quality of food sources that SP uses?

No.

Is there any other supplement company in the US that has a 70 plus

year track record of quality supplements made from food? No.

The bottom line is this, there are things that SP does that I don't

agree with, however whenever I find myself saying silly things like I

don't agree with EVERYTHING so and so does I realize that there is

nobody and no company that I can actually say I agree with EVERYTHING

they do. So its ridiculous to expect that we should. I have used SP

personally as has my family, colleagues, patients and clients for

many years with nothing short of stellar results. I have used " whole

food " supplements at times from other companies such as Doctor's

Research and one or two others however when the big picture is taken

into account and the benefits of using the whole food based aspects

of the SP product line are analyzed SP is clearly in a class by

itself. When other companies can put the pristine food products that

are put into SP products into their own products then there may be

some room for debate, but until then it's SP. Hands down.

Again I want to apologize to for my dissonance and just say

that we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. And

considering that we are in full agreement on where the real nutrition

comes from, there's not much disagreement at all.

Sincerely,

Dr. Marasco