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I assume you live in the US.

From my experience, it is incorrect to assume that all

meat sold in a regular grocery store is grown on

hormones. All brands of chickens I've seen in stores

and obtained information about is are hormone free.

One brand is Farms, and another one is

Pilgrim's Pride.

Chicken is not much more expensive than fruits and

vegetables. Quite often it is as cheap or cheaper than

fruits and vegs. You could buy chicken on sale and

freeze it. While, you won't get the best chicken for

less than $1/lb, but according to Dr. Byrnes, it's

still better to buy non grass fed, organic meat than

none at all.

Sometimes, fish is pretty cheap on sale. At least you

could take cod liver oil for some benefits of fish.

Carlson's Labs is a brand of preference for many.

While a bottle is quite expensive ($17 - $20), if you

recalculate its price per dose, it will come out quite

cheap.

If you don't get foodstamps, you probably could.

Hope this helps

Roman

--- Marcella Mathewes <honoraholmes@...>

wrote:

> We are basically poor. My husband is a full time

> student and we have two

> baby boys and I am nursing the youngest full time.

> We are on a budget. Meat

> is just really expensive and that is the grain fed

> hormone laced stuff.

> Would it be better to increase the animal products

> in our diet using the

> grain fed stuff or to just have more fruits and

> vegetables? I am just not

> sure where to spend the money at the grocery store.

> As far as good foods go,

> what is most important for us? What should I buy

> first? I actually have

> loads of organic grains but I don't want to fill my

> son up on that when

> meats and vegetables are more nutritious. I am

> working on a sourdour starter

> so I can make sourdough bread. I have a mill so we

> can have fresh bread. I

> personally am allergic to wheat and need something

> else to fill up on and we

> can't afford to fill up on meat. I plan to get some

> chickens soon but it

> will be awhile before we get anything from them. Any

> advice? At this point

> we are going to be foraging snails at dusk when it

> warms up. lol!

>

> Marcella

>

>

>

>

>

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>If you don't get foodstamps, you probably could

When I was a single mother and struggling I got help from the government with

food stamps program. They gave me so many of these I couldn't use them all and

only stayed on for three months, yet had enough for six. My local food coop

accpeted these too! So I could get organic foods. I hate being on these, but at

least I could feed my son and myself well.

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I wish you enough rain to appreciate the sun more.

I wish you enough happiness to keep your spirit alive.

I wish you enough pain so that the smallest joys in life appear much bigger.

I wish you enough gain to satisfy your wanting.

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Marcella,

My recommendation would be this:

I think the rustic leafy greens like collards, kale, spinach etc are often

some of the cheaper vegetables for the nutritional punch that they provide.

Don't eliminate the veggies by any means, but for the protein...

eggs, eggs, EGGS, and more eggs

Seriously, while I don't recommend you have a diet composed strictly of

eggs, they are the cheapest and best protein source on the planet. If you

can spend a little more for pastured or even one of the high omega brands

(Gold Circle farms, Eggland's Best, or a local farm that uses fish meal,

algae, or flax meal as part of the ration) so much the better. There is the

side benefit of the high choline content being very good for the baby's

brain (recent research suggests that choline not only increases intelligence

during gestation but also during the first several months of

lactation...although the lactation benefit appears to possibly be limited to

males). Milk and yogurt are also relatively inexpensive, and very

nutritionally valuable.

After eggs and dairy, I'd head for the fish case. First, buy what you can

afford. Second, stick to ocean fish. Third, select wild caught over

farmed. Then choose the smallest fish from the coldest waters first

(small=lower mercury; cold water=higher omega 3 fats).

After fish, I'd head for the meats. You can save a ton of money (even with

grass-fed and organics) by opting for stew meats and ground meats. Liver

and other organ meats are also usually fairly cheap. I can usually buy

about 1/3-1/2 lb of free-range, antibiotic-free chicken liver for less than

a dollar.

Hope this helps!

Minneapolis, MN

-----Original Message-----

From: Marcella Mathewes [mailto:honoraholmes@...]

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 12:27 AM

Subject: Which is better?

We are basically poor. My husband is a full time student and we have two

baby boys and I am nursing the youngest full time. We are on a budget. Meat

is just really expensive and that is the grain fed hormone laced stuff.

Would it be better to increase the animal products in our diet using the

grain fed stuff or to just have more fruits and vegetables? I am just not

sure where to spend the money at the grocery store. As far as good foods go,

what is most important for us? What should I buy first? I actually have

loads of organic grains but I don't want to fill my son up on that when

meats and vegetables are more nutritious. I am working on a sourdour starter

so I can make sourdough bread. I have a mill so we can have fresh bread. I

personally am allergic to wheat and need something else to fill up on and we

can't afford to fill up on meat. I plan to get some chickens soon but it

will be awhile before we get anything from them. Any advice? At this point

we are going to be foraging snails at dusk when it warms up. lol!

Marcella

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Marcella,

Possibly telling us where you live might help. Then we can make suggestions

as to farms that sell meats directly to the customer. It might be less

expensive for you to purchase a quarter or a side of beef.

Deanna

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From: " Marcella Mathewes " <honoraholmes@...>

< >

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 1:26 AM

Subject: Which is better?

We are basically poor. My husband is a full time student and we have two

baby boys and I am nursing the youngest full time. We are on a budget. Meat

is just really expensive and that is the grain fed hormone laced stuff.

Would it be better to increase the animal products in our diet using the

grain fed stuff or to just have more fruits and vegetables? I am just not

sure where to spend the money at the grocery store. As far as good foods go,

what is most important for us? What should I buy first? I actually have

loads of organic grains but I don't want to fill my son up on that when

meats and vegetables are more nutritious. I am working on a sourdour starter

so I can make sourdough bread. I have a mill so we can have fresh bread. I

personally am allergic to wheat and need something else to fill up on and we

can't afford to fill up on meat. I plan to get some chickens soon but it

will be awhile before we get anything from them. Any advice? At this point

we are going to be foraging snails at dusk when it warms up. lol!

Marcella

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We live in Cumming, GA about an hour north of Atlanta.

Marcella

>From: " Deanna Buck " <dbuck@...>

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>Subject: Re: Which is better?

>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:36:50 -0500

>

>Marcella,

>

>Possibly telling us where you live might help. Then we can make

>suggestions

>as to farms that sell meats directly to the customer. It might be less

>expensive for you to purchase a quarter or a side of beef.

>

>Deanna

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: " Marcella Mathewes " <honoraholmes@...>

>< >

>Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 1:26 AM

>Subject: Which is better?

>

>

>We are basically poor. My husband is a full time student and we have two

>baby boys and I am nursing the youngest full time. We are on a budget. Meat

>is just really expensive and that is the grain fed hormone laced stuff.

>Would it be better to increase the animal products in our diet using the

>grain fed stuff or to just have more fruits and vegetables? I am just not

>sure where to spend the money at the grocery store. As far as good foods

>go,

>what is most important for us? What should I buy first? I actually have

>loads of organic grains but I don't want to fill my son up on that when

>meats and vegetables are more nutritious. I am working on a sourdour

>starter

>so I can make sourdough bread. I have a mill so we can have fresh bread. I

>personally am allergic to wheat and need something else to fill up on and

>we

>can't afford to fill up on meat. I plan to get some chickens soon but it

>will be awhile before we get anything from them. Any advice? At this point

>we are going to be foraging snails at dusk when it warms up. lol!

>

>Marcella

>

>

>

>

>_________________________________________________________________

>Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

>

>

>

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Dear Marcella,

First let's discuss what you DON'T need to waste you limited

resources on. Expensive cuts of muscle meats are over rated and over

consumed. I could list several reasons as to at the very least limit

your muscle meat consumption. It is true that an occasional really

tender cut of expensive muscle meat steak is fun and delicious, it is

not in any way a staple. So save your money and let the butcher sell

the muscle meats to someone else, if you want and can afford to have

a little that's fine.

The two meat products that you should be most interested in are

organ meats and bones. Fortunately most people don't have the

foggiest idea what to do with these or know that they should and

therefore these are much cheaper. Your best bet on acquiring these

on a budget is NOT at your local grocer or health food store but

instead doing some leg work and locating local farmers and finding

out who has the high quality stuff. They may not be certified

organic but you can actually go to the farm if its local and see

things first hand. Many times they'll just be happy to get rid of

these items as there may be too much for them and nobody else wants

them.

As you may know there are many valuable nutrients in meats

especially organ meats. However in my opinion the most critical is

the amino acids found there (specific proteins). Here is where you

will get the most bang for your buck. Find a source of the leftover

bones. Neck, leg, hoof, spine, rib, tail, etc these you can often

get anywhere from .50 to $2 per pound depending on the farmer. And

they are usually available in abundance as they are not big sellers

hence they're cheap. If I could not afford any other foods I would

get a hold of bones and make broths. As far as meat oriented staples

go I would say there is no more valuable than the bone broth.

Second would be the organ meats. Sally has terrific recipies for

these detalied in her book and I'm certain if you have questions

anyone on this site or the WPF site or email me and you can get any

answers you may need with preparation instructions. I can not stress

the value of making cheap easy bone broth for you and your family

enough.

Eggs are another excellent cheap food for you. Also you need to

find local people selling them. We get eggs from roaming chickens

who eat lots of bugs and have lots of sex for $1 for a dozen. The

quality doesn't get any better. Don't waste your money on " omega "

type eggs as they are more expensive often times and the nutrient

profile I feel is better in the non grain fed egg.

As for your fruits and vegetables I suggest driving around your

neighborhood and find out who has a garden and befriend them. They

will have extra for sure, there always is and they will give you

some. Even if its not organic it will certainly be better than the

oversprayed aged deficient stuff at the grocery. This is kind of

tongue and cheek however it will work. Also again look for local

farmers who let you pick your own fruits or veggies for a small fee.

You can eat much of the fresh picks and freeze the rest for later.

We have done that here in Ohio at times and got over $250 worth of

fruit for less than $50. Another option is find a local cooperative,

csa or farmer and offer to trade a few hours of work each week for

food, especially in Georgia those opportunities should abound.

Another option which I'm sure has occurred to you is you could grow

your own garden. If you cannot afford to buy seeds my wife and I

keep a very nice garden and I would be happy to give you our seeds.

You can have a garden on your own land, in a large pot on an

apartment balcony or patio, or even approach a farmer or land owner

who might let you use their land to grow a garden if you shared some

of the harvest.

As you know you can make your own soaked grain and sourdough

grain foods dirt cheap and provided you tolerate them well and you

prepare them properly, by all means eat them.

The one place where if at all possible I would do my very best

not to skimp would be on butter and or coconut oil. There are no

substitutes for these and they are essential in your diet so if I had

to spend my extra money in any one place it would be on the best

grassfed butter I could find.

Marcella I don't know how short your resources are, however I am

confident at the very least you can produce daily meals based in bone

broth, eggs/organs, veggies and butter along with some of the yummy

fresh properly prepared grains you'll grind and make on a really

tight budget. And on that you'll be the healthiest people in the

neighborhood.

Should you have any questions please feel free to email me at

mmarasco@... I'll be happy to help.

Also look at the website www.eatwild.com as they will list for you

some of the high quality farmers in your state.

All My Best,

Dr. Marasco

Cincinnati, OH

--- In @y..., " Marcella Mathewes " <honoraholmes@h...>

wrote:

> We are basically poor. My husband is a full time student and we

have two

> baby boys and I am nursing the youngest full time. We are on a

budget. Meat

> is just really expensive and that is the grain fed hormone laced

stuff.

> Would it be better to increase the animal products in our diet

using the

> grain fed stuff or to just have more fruits and vegetables? I am

just not

> sure where to spend the money at the grocery store. As far as good

foods go,

> what is most important for us? What should I buy first? I actually

have

> loads of organic grains but I don't want to fill my son up on that

when

> meats and vegetables are more nutritious. I am working on a

sourdour starter

> so I can make sourdough bread. I have a mill so we can have fresh

bread. I

> personally am allergic to wheat and need something else to fill up

on and we

> can't afford to fill up on meat. I plan to get some chickens soon

but it

> will be awhile before we get anything from them. Any advice? At

this point

> we are going to be foraging snails at dusk when it warms up. lol!

>

> Marcella

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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Also, I find that some WholeFoods stores carry New Zealand Grass-fed beef

and lamb. The lamb often is available as " stew cuts " which are the

left-over pieces from other, more expensive cuts. The stew cuts are fairly

inexpensive by comparison and you can hand-grind it (try the old type of

grinder) or just have it as is. Also, beef is an acceptable brand

and isn't that expensive (but I think at least some grain feeding).

-=mark=-

>--- Marcella Mathewes <honoraholmes@...>

>wrote:

> > We are basically poor. My husband is a full time

> > student and we have two

> > baby boys and I am nursing the youngest full time.

> > We are on a budget. Meat

> > is just really expensive and that is the grain fed

> > hormone laced stuff.

> > Would it be better to increase the animal products

> > in our diet using the

> > grain fed stuff or to just have more fruits and

> > vegetables? I am just not

> > sure where to spend the money at the grocery store.

> > As far as good foods go,

> > what is most important for us? What should I buy

> > first? I actually have

> > loads of organic grains but I don't want to fill my

> > son up on that when

> > meats and vegetables are more nutritious. I am

> > working on a sourdour starter

> > so I can make sourdough bread. I have a mill so we

> > can have fresh bread. I

> > personally am allergic to wheat and need something

> > else to fill up on and we

> > can't afford to fill up on meat. I plan to get some

> > chickens soon but it

> > will be awhile before we get anything from them. Any

> > advice? At this point

> > we are going to be foraging snails at dusk when it

> > warms up. lol!

> >

> > Marcella

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>_________________________________________________________________

> > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device:

> > http://mobile.msn.com

> >

> >

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Luckily, most of the grocery stores here on Oahu carry New Zealand lamb and

it is one of the cheapest meats available at about $2 a pound.

For the lady on the budget, see Appendix A in Sally's book " Nourishing

Traditions, " as it has tips for people like you who are on a budget. Also,

the regular use of bone broths in the diet has a protein-sparing effect,

making them ideal for people who cannot afford meat. Soup bones can be

bought very cheaply at markets. Check the section on broth at

www.westonaprice.org for more on this.

Other cheap animal foods, besides eggs, would be organ meats as they are not

popular food items with the public anymore.

SCB

>From: Theta Sigma <thetasig@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Which is better?

>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:59:07 -0800

>

>Also, I find that some WholeFoods stores carry New Zealand Grass-fed beef

>and lamb. The lamb often is available as " stew cuts " which are the

>left-over pieces from other, more expensive cuts. The stew cuts are fairly

>inexpensive by comparison and you can hand-grind it (try the old type of

>grinder) or just have it as is. Also, beef is an acceptable brand

>and isn't that expensive (but I think at least some grain feeding).

>

>-=mark=-

>

>

> >--- Marcella Mathewes <honoraholmes@...>

> >wrote:

> > > We are basically poor. My husband is a full time

> > > student and we have two

> > > baby boys and I am nursing the youngest full time.

> > > We are on a budget. Meat

> > > is just really expensive and that is the grain fed

> > > hormone laced stuff.

> > > Would it be better to increase the animal products

> > > in our diet using the

> > > grain fed stuff or to just have more fruits and

> > > vegetables? I am just not

> > > sure where to spend the money at the grocery store.

> > > As far as good foods go,

> > > what is most important for us? What should I buy

> > > first? I actually have

> > > loads of organic grains but I don't want to fill my

> > > son up on that when

> > > meats and vegetables are more nutritious. I am

> > > working on a sourdour starter

> > > so I can make sourdough bread. I have a mill so we

> > > can have fresh bread. I

> > > personally am allergic to wheat and need something

> > > else to fill up on and we

> > > can't afford to fill up on meat. I plan to get some

> > > chickens soon but it

> > > will be awhile before we get anything from them. Any

> > > advice? At this point

> > > we are going to be foraging snails at dusk when it

> > > warms up. lol!

> > >

> > > Marcella

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >_________________________________________________________________

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Wow!! A fellow Georgian!! Woo-hoo!! :)

I'm in ville, 40 minutes west of Atlanta. I have some friends

in Cumming, so I go there every so often. I'm still pretty new to

this way of eating, but since we are on a budget also, I hope I can

help you. We just purchased part of a grass fed cow this winter from

a guy in Newnan. I know of a person in Northeast Cobb co. who has a

few chickens that are eating rye grass and have BRIGHT orange yolks.

There is a guy in Jasper with Jersey cows that we get milk from.

There is a CSA in north georgia that I can find details for you... I

live 15 minutes from an organic farm and I go there and volunteer my

labor once a week in exchange for produce. It is a great situation

to be able to learn from them also. I'm sure if you wanted to drive

this far, they could certainly use the help.

I'd love to meet you sometime...If you email me personally, I'll give

you my phone number so I can give you more details...

Glad to find someone so close by,

Becky

--- In @y..., " Marcella Mathewes " <honoraholmes@h...>

wrote:

> We live in Cumming, GA about an hour north of Atlanta.

>

> Marcella

>

>

> >From: " Deanna Buck " <dbuck@e...>

> >Reply- @y...

> >< @y...>

> >Subject: Re: Which is better?

> >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:36:50 -0500

> >

> >Marcella,

> >

> >Possibly telling us where you live might help. Then we can make

> >suggestions

> >as to farms that sell meats directly to the customer. It might be

less

> >expensive for you to purchase a quarter or a side of beef.

> >

> >Deanna

> >

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: " Marcella Mathewes " <honoraholmes@h...>

> >< @y...>

> >Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 1:26 AM

> >Subject: Which is better?

> >

> >

> >We are basically poor. My husband is a full time student and we

have two

> >baby boys and I am nursing the youngest full time. We are on a

budget. Meat

> >is just really expensive and that is the grain fed hormone laced

stuff.

> >Would it be better to increase the animal products in our diet

using the

> >grain fed stuff or to just have more fruits and vegetables? I am

just not

> >sure where to spend the money at the grocery store. As far as good

foods

> >go,

> >what is most important for us? What should I buy first? I actually

have

> >loads of organic grains but I don't want to fill my son up on that

when

> >meats and vegetables are more nutritious. I am working on a

sourdour

> >starter

> >so I can make sourdough bread. I have a mill so we can have fresh

bread. I

> >personally am allergic to wheat and need something else to fill up

on and

> >we

> >can't afford to fill up on meat. I plan to get some chickens soon

but it

> >will be awhile before we get anything from them. Any advice? At

this point

> >we are going to be foraging snails at dusk when it warms up. lol!

> >

> >Marcella

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >_________________________________________________________________

> >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device:

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> >

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