Re:Cysts Busters and Children

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So a flare is really cysts coming out? Robin

>

> Robin:

>

> When I first started learning about lyme and cysts, I was freaking

out

> trying to understand if I have to do things a certain way or I will

make it worse

> or what. Here are some things I have come across. Lyme can turn

into cyst

> form in seconds. Large numbers of lyme convert back from cyst to

spirochete in

> hours. Things the lyme likes to eat will make it come out of cyst

form

> (sugar, gelatin, grains, and possibly magnesium, glutathione, B

vitamins, and I

> can't remember what else right now) . Removing things one is on

will make the

> lyme come out of cyst form.

>

> People usually report a decrease in symptoms than an increase in

symptoms

> when on things that make it go into cyst form, like antibiotics.

But, since

> the are getting these bad herxes about 2 months after starting

antibiotics, one

> might assume the lyme gets tired of hiding out or comes out to eat

or

> something to cause the herx. I don't have so much fear any more,

since I now feel

> the lyme can readily come out of cyst form. The situation is

still

> complicated though. I feel feeding and killing are good ideas.

Only feeding the lyme

> without having a good immune system or something to kill them, is

likely a

> bad idea.

>

> I am seeing that boosting the immune system may work better than

taking

> things to directly kill it. It could be that our white blood cells

may be able

> to conquer all forms of lyme. Well, maybe not, I have seen video

of

> spirochete lyme entering a white blood cell and then exiting it

with contents of the

> white blood cell on it, thus camouflaging itself. That thing is

so

> intelligent; that is why its such a struggle to conquer. I think

science aside, go

> with what people and doctors say works. We can only try and see

what happens

> and then make changes as needed. Since there are variances in us,

and we all

> have different strains, pathogens, insurance, access to things,

etc., I say

> just pick what one believes in, has access to, can afford, etc.

and make

> changes as needed. I have seen a lot of different things work and

those same things

> fail. Thus, the situation is very grey.

>

> I think the detoxers you are using are great. I would try to add

in some

> probiotics. Likely, giving them with the meal would be good, so

they can be

> present to help digest the food. Your doc may have an opinion on

that. I do

> have neurolyme symptoms, but my supplements and diet keep symptoms

away.

> Without them, I can not function at all. I don't know a lot about

the antibiotic

> route. It scares me, this is why I chose herbs. But I am not

against them.

> Many have had success with them.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

>

> My daughter is on abx. I know that the cyst form is probably

forming.

> From what I understand all antimicrobials will put lyme into cyst

> form. How do you all address that? Our doctor told me that it is

> difficult to treat children with lyme because the drugs are hard

on

> them and really meant for adults... the ones that get teh cell

wall

> deficient forms as well as the ones that get the cyst forms..

>

> DD has been on doxy 6 weeks, now on ceftin 3 weeks then doxy 3

weeks.

> I am starting to fear I have started the a future cyst explosion

that

> we cant deal with.

>

> She has had simple die offs. Shaky legs a few days, tremoring

fingers

> on and off that cause no pain, fatigue on and off, headaches, but

> thats about it. She's 11.

>

> She is on Unda drops and modifilin.

>

> How do you all address this with your kids? I think I remember

grape

> seed extract? Is that it and what others then how with a child?

Can

> homeopathics take care of it? Can you just wait for the next round

> and then how do you stay ahead of the game IF they multiply in

cyst

> form? Does the KMT help or Valkion? Does the KMT put into cyst

form?

> I think Rife is not supposed to. Would valkion?

>

> Thank you. You all are amazing and amazingly smart, and I am

> overwhelmed again. Cant keep up. I cannot imagine dealing with

what

> you all deal with.

>

> Do any of you have neurolyme and how do you handle that and taking

> such good care of your children staying on top of things like you

do?

> I go in spurts where I process the info, then poof.. I cant think

or

> handle stress very well.

>

> Robin

>

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