Re: Who has tried SSRIs to treat 4S?

[Guest guest]

Kate, I too wonder why meds don't work for 4S like they do OCD

because it's so similar. I was on Paxil but only 30mg daily. My OCD

was mild and I found that it completely went away while on that dose

however my 4S remained. I too wonder if anyone has tried higher

doses. I hate to get back on meds again unless there is a good shot

of it working. My OCD is annoying but not debilitating... I check my

stove all the time. But if it would work, I'd take them in a

heartbeat!!

>

> I'm wondering how many of us have tried an SSRI medication to treat

the symptoms of 4S. I

> took 50mg of Zoloft and my OCD symptoms disappeared (though the

meds took about 6

> weeks to start working, and it did get a bit worse before it got

better). I am not currently

> taking it, and my symptoms have remained at bay. But 50mg is not a

very big dose - I know

> the Rx for Zoloft can go up to 100mg. Have any of you tried this

high a dose and still

> received no relief? 4S seems so close to OCD, it's hard for me to

understand why the

> medication wouldn't work at all. Just curious . . .

>

> Wishing everyone a peaceful Thanksgiving Day . . .

>

> Kate in NY

>

[Guest guest]

Stove-checking! Aaack! I hear you on that one - it takes me about 15 minutes

to go to

bed at night because I have to stare at my stove to make sure - over and over

and over

again - that everything is off. The French call OCD the " doubting disease "

(well, they call

it that in French, of course, so it probably sounds better) - but that's such a

good name. I

can stare at each little dial and repeat " off, off, off " and then two seconds

later I'm thinking

- did I really check that third dial? is it really all the way off? The worst

is when I am all

cozy and tucked in bed and I start doubting whether or not I really checked

everything,

and I feel absolutely compelled to go check again! But as you say, it's more

annoying than

debilitating. The 4S is so much worse, because that affects the people I love

and alienates

me from them. I wonder how many of us on this list are stove-checkers (or

something

similar).

Kate in NY, who made it through a very pleasant Thanksgiving dinner with the

entire

family! Hurrah!

> >

> > I'm wondering how many of us have tried an SSRI medication to treat

> the symptoms of 4S. I

> > took 50mg of Zoloft and my OCD symptoms disappeared (though the

> meds took about 6

> > weeks to start working, and it did get a bit worse before it got

> better). I am not currently

> > taking it, and my symptoms have remained at bay. But 50mg is not a

> very big dose - I know

> > the Rx for Zoloft can go up to 100mg. Have any of you tried this

> high a dose and still

> > received no relief? 4S seems so close to OCD, it's hard for me to

> understand why the

> > medication wouldn't work at all. Just curious . . .

> >

> > Wishing everyone a peaceful Thanksgiving Day . . .

> >

> > Kate in NY

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'm on 20 mg Celexa for unrelated depression. Been on it for almost 5

months now. I haven't noticed any positive effect on my 4s... in fact,

it continues to get worse as I discover new trigger sounds (brushing

teeth is the newest).

This might not be the case with a higher dosage, but I'm currently

trying to get back off the med now that I think my need for it has passed.

[Guest guest]

Aaaahhh, yes, checking if I turned off the stove, iron, locked the doors. I'm also TERRIFIED of the dark so when I find myself, in bed, at night, doubting whether I turned off the stove, it can be a real challenge to get downstairs and check.I also have recurring bouts of nausea and exhaustion. I was reading the other day that nausea can be caused by the central nervous system and by psychiatric disorders. I was wondering whether any of you also experience this?I feel the same way Kate, you said it best, I can tolerate all of my other OCD tendencies and fears but the 4s really is tormenting. It's stops being about you and struggling to control your environment/inanimate objects and becomes more about putting you against the people that you care

about. You yourself are tormented, then you torment others and then you feel horribly guilty and hate yourself for it. It appears to be a vicious cycle that only seems to get worse. Well, we have to have faith and work together to find a cure. I'm hopeful that together we can!Best,andraTo: Soundsensitivity Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 11:12:00 PMSubject: Re: Who has tried SSRIs to treat 4S?

Stove-checking! Aaack! I hear you on that one - it takes me about 15 minutes to go to bed at night because I have to stare at my stove to make sure - over and over and over again - that everything is off. The French call OCD the "doubting disease" (well, they call it that in French, of course, so it probably sounds better) - but that's such a good name. I can stare at each little dial and repeat "off, off, off" and then two seconds later I'm thinking - did I really check that third dial? is it really all the way off? The worst is when I am all cozy and tucked in bed and I start doubting whether or not I really checked everything, and I feel absolutely compelled to go check again! But as you say, it's more annoying than debilitating. The 4S is so much worse, because that affects the people I love and alienates me from them. I wonder how many of us on this list

are stove-checkers (or something similar).Kate in NY, who made it through a very pleasant Thanksgiving dinner with the entire family! Hurrah!> >> > I'm wondering how many of us have tried an SSRI medication to treat > the symptoms of 4S. I > > took 50mg of Zoloft and my OCD symptoms disappeared (though the > meds took about 6 > > weeks to start working, and it did get a bit worse before it got > better). I am not currently > > taking it, and my symptoms have remained at bay. But 50mg is not a > very big dose - I know > > the Rx for Zoloft can go up to 100mg. Have any of you tried this > high a dose and still > > received no relief? 4S seems so close to OCD, it's hard for me to > understand why the > > medication wouldn't work at all.

Just curious . . . > > > > Wishing everyone a peaceful Thanksgiving Day . . . > > > > Kate in NY> >>------------------------------------PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL GROUP AND NO MESSAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE OUTSIDE OF THE YAHOO GROUP MEMBERSHIP SITE OR REPRODUCED OR COPIED AND MAILED FOR ANY PURPOSE. ALSO DO NOT SHARE MEMBER EMAIL ADDRESSES OR NAMES WITH ANYONE.Thank you. MJ

[Guest guest]

I have taken SSRI's and other types of anti-depressants (one's that

work on Norepinephrine and Dopamine as well as serotonin). I was on

them and changing every so often for 13 years. They did not help my 4S.

Once I found out I was bipolar I spent six years changing meds to find

the right ones. I have taken every mood stabilizer and anti psychotic

combo possible and none of them touched my 4S. I have been on my

current meds for three years now (Depakote, Seroquel, Klonopin, and

Busbar) and my bipolar is so much better it is a miracle, my 4S is just

easier to deal with, but I also stopped working. I just seem to be able

to handle the 4S better it does not wreck me the way it used to (every

once in a while it will be the last straw for me and I totally

crumble). I am not cured but I am better and life is better but I think

that it is hard to say exactly what made it better, def a combo of

lifestyle, meds, proactive earplugging and being able to be supported

in my home by an understanding partner.

Best of luck!

[Guest guest]

Holy Cow Kate you described myself on the stove checking to the " T " !

I stare at it myself and repeat " It's off " multiple times, turn away

and go back and do it again. It's so frustrating because you know

it's off and you know that what you are doing is ridiculous but you

MUST do it! If I happen to leave my house without checking, I

literally turn the car around and go back and check. I do the same

thing with my alarm clock before I go to bed. I must check and re-

check to make sure the alarm button is on. As annoying as OCD is,

I'd much rather deal with that than 4S. There is so much less

anxiety, stress and rage involved! Although I don't wish anyone to

have to go through OCD, it is re-assuring that I am not alone in

doing these things as well! Congratulations on surviving

Thanksgiving dinner!

>

> Stove-checking! Aaack! I hear you on that one - it takes me about

15 minutes to go to

> bed at night because I have to stare at my stove to make sure -

over and over and over

> again - that everything is off. The French call OCD the " doubting

disease " (well, they call

> it that in French, of course, so it probably sounds better) - but

that's such a good name. I

> can stare at each little dial and repeat " off, off, off " and then

two seconds later I'm thinking

> - did I really check that third dial? is it really all the way

off? The worst is when I am all

> cozy and tucked in bed and I start doubting whether or not I really

checked everything,

> and I feel absolutely compelled to go check again! But as you say,

it's more annoying than

> debilitating. The 4S is so much worse, because that affects the

people I love and alienates

> me from them. I wonder how many of us on this list are stove-

checkers (or something

> similar).

>

> Kate in NY, who made it through a very pleasant Thanksgiving dinner

with the entire

> family! Hurrah!

>