Re: Die off

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Yes, I think I felt pretty bad as well, but the exremeness only

lasted a few days, and then I slowly came out of it. We got to where

we could take lots of Resveratrol and Cat's Claw with no side

effects, but that first few weeks, one pill was wiping us out. Thus,

its weird to remember that as I read your post. I can't beleive we

used to be so sensitive as compared to now. I, too, can't go off of

these herbs though, or things return. I guess the pathogens re-

grow. I have faith that one day, we won't be so dependent. I just

added in Modifilan to hopefully reduce out toxin load to assist our

immune system in re-setting. I think your monolaurin, Virastop and

Natto could be increasing the effectiveness of the Resveratrol and

Cat's Claw, enabling them to kill more, faster. Also, I would

consider some more things for lymph or liver support. I love Burbur,

Unda 243, and artichoke. You may benefit from increasing your kelp

or Curcumin. I don't know how strong Curcumin 95 is since I use

Turmeric, but it is an anti-inflammatory. Only problem is that it

also kills pathogens, so sometimes it can add to the die-off. It's

one of those trial and error things. Sometimes I up my milk thistle

during the tough times as well. I take lithium orotate daily to

protect me from die-off. It makes all the difference. Without it, I

can barely take pathogen killers. With it, I can take 4 or more

times as much to kill pathogens. It has some type of nerve-

protection properties to it. Mellatonin really takes those toxins

out of my brain at night as well. I use a lot of things. I guess I

am just a mess inside. I need so much. But, on all these things,

people don't believe I am sick.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

>

> So far on the revisatrol and cod liver oil our die off symptoms

are

> extreme agressiveness and wanting to hit somebody.

>

> I noticed that it gets under control after you have been on it for a

> while but if you miss a day, the first few days back on revisatrol

you

> have this real agressive feeling. All of us are having more

agression

> on it, unless you don't miss a dose.

>

> On another note I will put what I am taking here, but I feel like

> absolute crap. Mentally and physically exausted. Mentally having a

> hard time keeping it together. Is this treatment supposed to be the

> most grueling thing ever to be endured? Maybe I am not mopping up

die

> off correctly.

>

> Here is what I and my daughter are taking....the rest are taking

> revisatrol and cod liver oil.

>

> Castor oil pack: place on right side, place trash bag over pack to

> keep clothes and bed from getting messy, place heating pad covered

in

> cloth over pack. Sit for 45 min-1 hour. Save pack to reuse.

>

> Milk thistle 1 cap 1 time a day (liver support)

>

> Uva Ursi 1 cap 1 or 2 times a day for yeast control

>

> Optive Eye drops- dry eye as needed

>

> Bach flower remedy, 1 or 2 drops as needed away from food (for

> mood/stress)

>

> Cod liver oil 1 cap 3x a day starting with one a day build up slowly

> (for bartonella)

>

> Vitamin C 2 caps 2 x a day or to bowel tolerence

>

> Curcumin 95 1 cap 1x a day for inflammation

>

> Kelp 1 cap 1x a day for adrenals

>

> Cat's Claw 1 cap 2 x a day for lymes (samento)

>

> Resveratrol 1 cap 1 time a day ramping up to more or skipping a day

as

> die off increases or decreases. Day one on this after missing more

> than two days causes agression, and die off symptoms of

irritability.

> (for bartonella)

>

> Panothenic Acid 500mg 1 cap 1 x a day

> for adrenals

>

> I am also taking in addition Natto K, monolaurin, and virastop.

Away

> from supplements. Then I am also taking calcium and selenium. I

have

> an adrenal problem. I have lost what I am supposed to do for that,

> someone emailed me and I can't find that now and I know that is my

> missing link at least. Honestly, I just have no energy at all and i

> can't handle any stress. I feel so absolutely horrible I feel like I

> am going to die. Is this normal? What am I doing wrong? Is this

just

> the way this treatment is?

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