Guest guest Posted January 31, 2002 Report Share Posted January 31, 2002 In a message dated 1/31/02 2:05:39 PM Central Standard Time, ctn@... writes: > <<<< They will listen, you're paying 4-5 times the > going rate for milk, trust me, it will get them to listen. >>>> > > Belinda, > > Am I understanding you correctly? The going rate for milk in my area is > roughly $3.00 per gallon. So raw milk would be $12.00 to $15.00 per > gallon?? > > Carmen No, most dairy farmers have a contract with a buyer. They get about 50 cents a gallon. The fellow near us was delighted to be offered $1.50 a gallon by some folks from the city. Belinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2002 Report Share Posted January 31, 2002 In a message dated 1/31/02 3:02:50 PM Central Standard Time, ctn@... writes: > Oh, thank goodness. You had me terrified for a moment. > > Carmen > hehe Folks in the know will charge about $5 for fresh raw milk some even as high as $6. but not the $12 Sorry Carmen, didn't mean to give you palpitations or anything. <G> Belinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2002 Report Share Posted January 31, 2002 Amen Belinda Just one thing. Be careful about the medication issue. Most states regularly check for penicillin type of medications only. There are vets out there that know this and sometimes recommend drugs that aren't detected by the drug screening. Not saying it is a big problem but it does happen. There are also medications that are legal to feed at low levels. Here is where to trust part comes in. The producer needs to know you and trust you enough to answer these type of questions. Remember his livelihood relys on the milk you are trying to buy. And please remember to check out the Somatic Cell count levels and their Bacteria counts. These are a sign of how clean of a job they are doing. Most of the time just looking around the place will tell you alot. As far as the cleaning products sometimes our hands are tied because the state have to approve the products used. However there are Organic products out there and most states recognize them. They are however kind of expensive so paying the producer a little more for a few gallon of milk may not be worth the extra expense. Buying their milk is in my opinion far better than the store bought kind even if the cleaners aren't organic. Being a dairyman myself I would like to think most of us are good people. We need to follow the laws also so please keep this in mind while talking to us. Good Luck in Ne bilherbs@... wrote: > Sitting here thinking about those of you having trouble finding raw milk and > figuring I could share some thoughts. > > Try the local feed stores and pet stores. They will help you find raw milk > for your sick animal...whatever animal you want it to be. Now, the might have > you finding goat's milk but that's a start at least. > > Ride around the countryside and look for places with cows in the pasture. If > they are out there, look like milk cows they are probably pasture fed, right? > Drive up around milking time 3-4 in the afternoon is usually good, sometimes > 5-6 even. Be careful if you live in an area where it is illegal, do the pet > thing first. > > Once you have a farmer with cows you need to, as you know, figure out what > he's feeding his cows. Even if they are on pasture they are probably getting > some grain to keep them standing still to milk. This shouldn't be a problem, > they're not there long enough to matter much. Medication is not something > dairy cows would be getting as it shows up in the milk test. Take a look > around and you'll see all sorts of pipes and hoses, cleaning up is a problem. > They use some nasty things to clean all that. Do some research and as you get > to know the folks make some suggestions for changes. Before you ask or > suggest they change the way they've been doing things get prices, > availability and most of all find out if the health department sanctions the > use of what you are suggesting. They will listen, you're paying 4-5 times the > going rate for milk, trust me, it will get them to listen. But if you sound > like a know-it-all they will stop listening and figure you are a nut. > > When you've got them supplying you milk don't just go prancing in there with > your cooler full of jars to get your milk. That stranger there might be the > health inspector and could ruin everyone's day. > > Don't expect this farmer, even if the cows are on pasture, to have ever heard > of Weston Price, Sally Fallon, CLA.... They do know about good hay, > colostrum, mastitis, and a bookfull of other practical type stuff. Stop to > listen. They might even know who has laying hens running around their yard! > > Belinda > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2002 Report Share Posted January 31, 2002 <<<< They will listen, you're paying 4-5 times the going rate for milk, trust me, it will get them to listen. >>>> Belinda, Am I understanding you correctly? The going rate for milk in my area is roughly $3.00 per gallon. So raw milk would be $12.00 to $15.00 per gallon?? Carmen P.S.- I'd like to add my own recommendation for buying raw milk., The question I always ask is, " Do you and your family drink this milk on a regular basis? " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2002 Report Share Posted January 31, 2002 Oh, thank goodness. You had me terrified for a moment. Carmen -----Original Message----- From: bilherbs@... [mailto:bilherbs@...] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: Re: Finding raw milk In a message dated 1/31/02 2:05:39 PM Central Standard Time, ctn@... writes: > <<<< They will listen, you're paying 4-5 times the > going rate for milk, trust me, it will get them to listen. >>>> > > Belinda, > > Am I understanding you correctly? The going rate for milk in my area is > roughly $3.00 per gallon. So raw milk would be $12.00 to $15.00 per > gallon?? > > Carmen No, most dairy farmers have a contract with a buyer. They get about 50 cents a gallon. The fellow near us was delighted to be offered $1.50 a gallon by some folks from the city. Belinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 > <<<< They will listen, you're paying 4-5 times the > going rate for milk, trust me, it will get them to listen. >>>> > > Belinda, > > Am I understanding you correctly? The going rate for milk in my area is > roughly $3.00 per gallon. So raw milk would be $12.00 to $15.00 per gallon?? > > Carmen > Hi, I just bought a gallon of organic raw Guernsey milk here in northwestern Vermont for $3.00. The dairyman sells his milk to a local organic cooperative. Other local organic dairies sell their milk for $4.00. Did you know that a cup of cream will make about 1 tablespoon of butter? Need more cream.... Sharon in Vermont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 > >I just bought a gallon of organic raw Guernsey milk here in >northwestern Vermont for $3.00. The dairyman sells his milk to a >local organic cooperative. Other local organic dairies sell their >milk for $4.00. > >Did you know that a cup of cream will make about 1 tablespoon of >butter? Need more cream.... > >Sharon in Vermont > Hi Sharon - how far north are you?! -- Warm Regards, Bethanne Elion Volhard Nutrition List Owner Poultney, Vermont http://www.barkingbear.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 > > Hi Sharon - how far north are you?! > -- > Warm Regards, > > Bethanne Elion > Volhard Nutrition List Owner > Poultney, Vermont > http://www.barkingbear.com I'm in East Enosburg. To get that milk, though, I had to drive over to . There are a few raw milk sources over here, too, but not all of the dairyman milk their cows in the winter. I can see that after May (when milking begins anew) there will be more than a few farms to get milk from. No one charges more than $4 a gallon. Such a deal! Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 --- In @y..., " vermont_gardening " <red_1096@y...> wrote: > > > I'm in East Enosburg. To get that milk, though, I had to drive over > to . There are a few raw milk sources over here, too, but not > all of the dairyman milk their cows in the winter. I can see that > after May (when milking begins anew) there will be more than a few > farms to get milk from. No one charges more than $4 a gallon. Such a > deal! Hey, I just picked up a bunch of organ meats from the Flack Family Farm in Enosburg Falls. I could have found something a bit closer, but they had a website that linked to weston price's and they do nutrition seminars in which they pass out WAP brochures and whatnot. It was great to have someone to talk about Weston Price and nutrition with, I don't get many oppourtunities! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 > > Hey, I just picked up a bunch of organ meats from the Flack Family > Farm in Enosburg Falls. I could have found something a bit closer, > but they had a website that linked to weston price's and they do > nutrition seminars in which they pass out WAP brochures and whatnot. > It was great to have someone to talk about Weston Price and nutrition > with, I don't get many oppourtunities! > > Hey! I'm going to their next seminar in March. We went to the Flack Family Farm two weeks ago to get some kimchi and saurkraut, and some meat. Just fell in love with their farm. Doug gave us a super tour of the barn, met the animals, what a wonderful setup. And so clean. Incredible. So, basically, you were just around the corner from us, . Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 Well us folks buying milk from Whole Foods and Henry's in So. Cal are paying about $16.00 a Gallon. ($3.99 a quart) And boy I'm tired of it. Kareemah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 In a message dated 2/2/02 6:29:33 PM Central Standard Time, umbasheer@... writes: > Well us folks buying milk from Whole Foods and Henry's in So. Cal are paying > > about $16.00 a Gallon. ($3.99 a quart) And boy I'm tired of it. > > > Kareemah Gotta wonder if being legal pays, anyone but the middle man that is. Belinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 I can't get my hands on any cream or butter, but I wish that I could. (Reasonably priced that is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 > > Well us folks buying milk from Whole Foods and Henry's in So. Cal are paying > > > > about $16.00 a Gallon. ($3.99 a quart) And boy I'm tired of it. > Gotta wonder if being legal pays, anyone but the middle man that is. Considering I pay $1.50 a quart at the dairy itself--what DOES transportation cost to So CA? And what do you guys have to pay for the cream?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 --- Brenneman > Considering I pay $1.50 a quart at the dairy > itself--what DOES > transportation cost to So CA? And what do you guys > have to pay for the > cream?? In the Sacramento area I pay $2.99/quart for Claravale milk. The cream just became available and is $6.99/pint (not kidding - I won't be buying it very often at that price). Aubin __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 You;re lucky, At my local store the milk is 4.00 a quart and the cream was 9.00 a pint. Wow. -----Original Message----- From: Aubin Parrish [mailto:aubinparrish@...] Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 8:35 PM Subject: Re: Finding raw milk --- Brenneman > Considering I pay $1.50 a quart at the dairy > itself--what DOES > transportation cost to So CA? And what do you guys > have to pay for the > cream?? In the Sacramento area I pay $2.99/quart for Claravale milk. The cream just became available and is $6.99/pint (not kidding - I won't be buying it very often at that price). Aubin __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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