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For the Southern Californians: this is a recent post on the Live Food

group.

Irene

Hi folks:

Here is a reply from Ron at Claravale to the questions which

Aajonus raised in the letter which I forwarded recently to the list!

with care,

--Vinny

>Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:26:08 -0800

>From: Cassidy <dairyqwn@p...>

>Subject: RE: Re: Update on Claravale Farms in

ville

> " 'Vinny Pinto (M)' " <vinny@m...>

>Vinny,

>

>In response to your e-mail below containing Aajonus'

letter:

>

>Yes, basically the information on feed is old

information. Unfortunately,due to our current sales crisis in southern

California, our feed situation is in limbo. The sudden withdrawal of

our milk from southern California has hit us very hard financially.

For example, I have had to send 20 of my cows to slaughter and lay off

two of my three employees. My feed supplier can supply us with organic

hay and grain but these feeds are expensive.

> Because of our current sales situation I have not

been able to pay our feed bill this month. Thus, in the immediate

future I'm not sure what we will be feeding the cows. As long as we

are going out of business, of course, it is irrelevant what we feed

our cows. However, the bottom line is this: When and if we are able to

return to the shelves in southern California we will be entirely

organic!!! End of story.

>

>For general information, here is how our cows will be

fed if we survive:The calves are on organic pastures and receive raw

colostrum and milk for variable periods up to six months. The heifers

are on organic pastures and receive access to organic alfalfa hay

(i.e. dried alfalfa) until they are 13 months old, at which time they

join the milking herd. The milking cows have access to some organic

pasture during the winter months, which is when grass grows in this

part of California, but eat mainly organic alfalfa hay and an organic

grain mixture which does not contain soy products. The dry cows have

access to some organic pasture in the winter time and eat mainly

organic oat hay (i.e. dried oat grass).

>

>A couple of other points: Yes, our milk really is raw.

Raw means notpasteurized. We do not pasteurize or cook or heat treat

our milk in anyway. It is, in fact, more than just raw. It is not

processed or adulterated or altered in any way. From the cow it goes

through a paper filter to get hairs and stuff out and is cooled down

and put in the bottle. Whatever the cows are producing is what you

get. We do not standardize,pasteurize, fortify, or homogenize. We put

nothing into the milk or take anything out.

>

>Also, in all the time that I have run this dairy I

cannot recall any reports of anyone getting nauseous from drinking our

milk. I expect that Aajonus' experience was due to Claravale milk

being richer than other milks(including Stueve's, which was, of

course, Holstein milk), as he theorized.The richness can be

overpowering to some who are used to modern reducedfat dairy products.

>

>I would appreciate your sending this out to your list

if you would. Also to Aajonus.

>

>Any other questions, please contact me.

>

>Thanks,

>

>Ron Garthwaite, owner, Claravale Dairy

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