Re: Is High fewer could be die-off symptom of Borreliosis ?

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Ivan, Muge and those of you whose kids are on antibiotics- we have been on antibiotics for our 8 year old twin

boys now for about 7 weeks. We have not seen big improvements yet. I know some people say it takes up to 6 months

before you see much, but lately I've been reading posts where people say they are seeing lots of improvement in a few weeks. We are on

zithromax and Rifampin. We did do Mepron and Malarone, but the Malarone gave one of my sons major brain inflammation, crazy behavior and

seizure type behavior. The doctor felt due to his symptoms, this was the right drug for him, however, he was so sick psychologically we had to

take him off.

Can anyone else chime in on their experiences with antibiotics and timeframes you began seeing improvement? I don't want to stay on the wrong antibiotic

for too long.

Thanks, Darci

-----Original Message-----From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of roshkovSent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:45 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Is High fewer could be die-off symptom of Borreliosis ?

MugeMy son (Borellia, Bartonella, Mercury…) is responding to Antibiotics similar way. His immune system just picking up with help of ABx, which usually results to fever. He is on Zithromax, IM Bicillin LA, was on Rifampin and recently started with Malarone (for Babesia). With last we got fever after only three days and was lasting for whole week, no additional side effects –he bounce back with improvements. Hope this help Ivan >> Muge,> > How high is your son's temperature? It could be anything, but first I would make sure it has nothing to do with non-Lyme sickness, bacteria or virus. It could be something seriuos, that requires urgent doctor's help and/or even visit to the ER and if it is and you are thinking it's just a die-off, it could be dangerous. > > Keep us posted, please!> Dina.> > > > Is High fewer could be die-off symptom of Borreliosis ?> > > > Hi, > My 9,5 years old son has lyme and he's on azythromycin since 1 month.> He has significant positive behavioral changes since 2 week.> But since yesterday he has high fewer, really high .> He hasnt any other symptom of flu or other viral infection. > As we dont have an experienced lyme dr , > (his DAN dr prescribed the antibiotic via phone consultation, I cant reach him urgently) > I'm curius now, this could be a die-off symptom, or a viral infection, or something else?> Thanks for help.> > Muge > > ----------------------------------------------------------------> Bu e-posta mesaji, mesajin alici kisminda belirtilmis olan kullanici icindir. Mesajin alicisi siz degilseniz -dogrudan veya dolayli olarak- mesaji kullanmayiniz, acmayiniz, dagitmayiniz, yazicidan dokumunu almayiniz veya herhangi bir kismini kopyalamayiniz. Yanlislikla bu mesaj size ulasmissa lutfen, siliniz ve tüm kopyalarini yok ederek mesaji gonderene acilen haber veriniz. Bu mesaj icerisinde belirtilenler sadece gondericinin kisisel gorusleridir. Bu gorusler IMKB'nin goruslerini yansitmadigi gibi, IMKB'yi baglayici da degildir.> This email is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended addressee of this message, you should not use, open, disseminate, distribute, print or copy this e-mail. If you have received this email in error, please delete it from your system and notify the sender immediately. The Istanbul Stock Exchange does not accept any legal responsibility whatsoever for the contents of this message. Any opinions contained in this message are those of the author and are not given or endorsed by the Istanbul Stock Exchange. > ---------------------------------------------------------------->

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Darci

My almost 6 years old son (50 lbs weight) being on Lyme pathway for

about six months: start with Alinia (6 weeks only), Zithomax

125mg/day and IM Bicillin 300-600K/week; two months after added

Rifampin 75-125mg/day. Recently Rifampin canceled to start with

Malarone 125/50. He is as well on herbals such as Teasel Root,

Resveratrol, Viragraphis, Pekana Homeopatics, Takuna and recently

added Rizol My. All dosages were pushed up gently without any big

side-effects so far, except fevers with temporary regression to

follows with gains. After reached gains sometimes levels off, where

usually new dosage or remedy was/is required.

First noticeable improvements were after 8 weeks – since started on

higher dose of IM Bicillin (600K), and few weeks after that when

Rifampin being introduced – gains in behavior, toilet training and

receptive language. Last few months we notice that he is very happy

child and smiling most of the time.

Beside this he is on IV-DMPS/GHS/VitC (100mg/1000mg/6g) Chelation

every second week - done over 50 so far. Since he started with

antimicrobials we have done four UTM and on all of them Mercury is

sky high - out of the chart.

Ivan

> >

> > Muge,

> >

> > How high is your son's temperature? It could be anything, but

first

> I would make sure it has nothing to do with non-Lyme sickness,

> bacteria or virus. It could be something seriuos, that requires

> urgent doctor's help and/or even visit to the ER and if it is and

you

> are thinking it's just a die-off, it could be dangerous.

> >

> > Keep us posted, please!

> > Dina.

> >

> >

> >

> > Is High fewer

> could be die-off symptom of Borreliosis ?

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> > My 9,5 years old son has lyme and he's on azythromycin since 1

> month.

> > He has significant positive behavioral changes since 2 week.

> > But since yesterday he has high fewer, really high .

> > He hasnt any other symptom of flu or other viral infection.

> > As we dont have an experienced lyme dr ,

> > (his DAN dr prescribed the antibiotic via phone consultation, I

> cant reach him urgently)

> > I'm curius now, this could be a die-off symptom, or a viral

> infection, or something else?

> > Thanks for help.

> >

> > Muge

> >

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for high fever, I wash the child down with a cool washcloth, and or put the child in a tepid or slightly cool bath. I like fevers. I believe it is the body's way of fighting off infection. I usually try to let them go up to about 102-103 and if they get higher than that I try to use cool cloths to keep them about 102-103 so we can sustain the fever which we believe is a good thing the body is doing killing off infection/pathogens. We would only use a fever reducer if the cool cloth, bath did not reduce and if the fever continued to climb higher than 103. If the child at any time screams in pain during the fever and it does not respond, take them to the Emergency room, even if the fever brakes. We had a child with undiagnosed uveitis and the chicken pox virus caused a high fever and extreme pain.

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Thanks for warnings,

his pediatrician already saw him , she doesnt think that it's

something dangeourus she thinks that it's something viral but she

doesnt know anything about lyme. His fewer is variable but was pretty

high at nights ,103 and still increasing so I had to give some

iboprufen.

Muge

- In BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism , " Dina

Fedosenko " wrote:

>

> Muge,

>

> How high is your son's temperature? It could be anything, but first

I would make sure it has nothing to do with non-Lyme sickness,

bacteria or virus. It could be something seriuos, that requires urgent

doctor's help and/or even visit to the ER and if it is and you are

thinking it's just a die-off, it could be dangerous.

>

> Keep us posted, please!

> Dina.

>

>

>

> Is High fewer could

be die-off symptom of Borreliosis ?

>

>

>

> Hi,

> My 9,5 years old son has lyme and he's on azythromycin since 1 month.

> He has significant positive behavioral changes since 2 week.

> But since yesterday he has high fewer, really high .

> He hasnt any other symptom of flu or other viral infection.

> As we dont have an experienced lyme dr ,

> (his DAN dr prescribed the antibiotic via phone consultation, I

cant reach him urgently)

> I'm curius now, this could be a die-off symptom, or a viral

infection, or something else?

> Thanks for help.

>

> Muge

>

>

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Thank you! It can also be found online for those who need a link like

I do:

http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med.diseases.lyme/2007-

04/msg00280.html

http://www.lymecommunity.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?

ubb=showflat & Number=3412

Robin

> > > >

> > > > Muge,

> > > >

> > > > How high is your son's temperature? It could be anything, but

> first

> > > I would make sure it has nothing to do with non-Lyme sickness,

> > > bacteria or virus. It could be something seriuos, that requires

> > > urgent doctor's help and/or even visit to the ER and if it is

and

> you

> > > are thinking it's just a die-off, it could be dangerous.

> > > >

> > > > Keep us posted, please!

> > > > Dina.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Is High

fewer

> > > could be die-off symptom of Borreliosis ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > My 9,5 years old son has lyme and he's on azythromycin

since

> 1

> > > month.

> > > > He has significant positive behavioral changes since 2

week.

> > > > But since yesterday he has high fewer, really high .

> > > > He hasnt any other symptom of flu or other viral infection.

> > > > As we dont have an experienced lyme dr ,

> > > > (his DAN dr prescribed the antibiotic via phone

consultation,

> I

> > > cant reach him urgently)

> > > > I'm curius now, this could be a die-off symptom, or a viral

> > > infection, or something else?

> > > > Thanks for help.

> > > >

> > > > Muge

> > > >

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> > > > Bu e-posta mesaji, mesajin alici kisminda belirtilmis olan

> > > kullanici icindir. Mesajin alicisi siz degilseniz -dogrudan

veya

> > > dolayli olarak- mesaji kullanmayiniz, acmayiniz, dagitmayiniz,

> > > yazicidan dokumunu almayiniz veya herhangi bir kismini

> > > kopyalamayiniz. Yanlislikla bu mesaj size ulasmissa lutfen,

> siliniz

> > > ve tüm kopyalarini yok ederek mesaji gonderene acilen haber

> veriniz.

> > > Bu mesaj icerisinde belirtilenler sadece gondericinin kisisel

> > > gorusleridir. Bu gorusler IMKB'nin goruslerini yansitmadigi

gibi,

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