Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 Hi Kinsey... my incision drained for about 7 weeks. 2 staples were removed while I was in the hospital so the fat could drain and not collect. It was a nusiance that finally went away. I'm hoping yours will close up soon. Betsy questions Is the pannelectomy or whatever it is called and the tummy tuck the same procedure? And, may I dare ask, do they put drain tubes in after that surgery? I tremble at that thought and many of you know why. Can anyone tell me if they had an infection and how long they had drainage? I am still draining, 86 days of draining fat. Wah.... ok I am better now... but can anyone enlighten me on these things? Kind regards, Kinsey (fat drainer from Sacramento) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 Hi Betsy Thank you for your response. I have been worried about my incision. It has been draining and then a new site opened and now another site looks like it may open. I didn't have staples so I don't know what can be done for me. I know it will go away some day but it still worries me. Thanks for the reassurance. I needed that. Kind regards, Kinsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 > Is the pannelectomy or whatever it is called and the tummy tuck the > same procedure? And, may I dare ask, do they put drain tubes in after > that surgery? I tremble at that thought and many of you know why. > Can anyone tell me if they had an infection and how long they had > drainage? I am still draining, 86 days of draining fat. Wah.... ok > I am better now... but can anyone enlighten me on these things? > Kind regards, > Kinsey (fat drainer from Sacramento) ~~~~~~~~~` Kinsey, My drainage from my ds surgery went on for 92 days before it finally quit.I think from [?]can't spell the name..lol and I were in a contest,it took us so long to finally close up,but it finally did. I can honestly say that when dr.k pulled the drains from the hernia and tt it was nothing like pulling from the ds.I didn't hurt at all.I don't know about other people.I had 4 drains with the hernia and tt. I can also say that before the hernia surgery I ate like a horse, but now that dr.k fixed that I only eat like a pony..lol You can tell the difference in your eating,anyone else out there feel like that??? Take care and God bless, Pat in Taft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 > Is the pannelectomy or whatever it is called and the tummy tuck the > same procedure? And, may I dare ask, do they put drain tubes in after > that surgery? I tremble at that thought and many of you know why. > Can anyone tell me if they had an infection and how long they had > drainage? I am still draining, 86 days of draining fat. Wah.... ok > I am better now... but can anyone enlighten me on these things? > Kind regards, > Kinsey (fat drainer from Sacramento) Kinsey From what I understand a panni is just the removal of skin. The tt is the removal of skin and the tightening of the muscles. And yes, there are drains, however from what I have been told they do not hurt when they are removed, as they are shallow and not wrapped around any internal organs. Hope that helps, cant help you on the drainage issue. I never experienced it or the famous Dr K q- tip thing either.... I am so glad things are going better for you now. Take good care, Sharon in Onyx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 Kinsey, my friend, I wish that I were still draining fat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Doc told me that I'd loose the apron AND the bulges above the apron. Basically, he said I'd be more or less FLAT in the stomach. I'll need to be in the CCU when I wake up because the shock (after 42 years of an apron) will give me a heart attack. Jim > Is the pannelectomy or whatever it is called and the tummy tuck the > same procedure? And, may I dare ask, do they put drain tubes in after > that surgery? I tremble at that thought and many of you know why. > Can anyone tell me if they had an infection and how long they had > drainage? I am still draining, 86 days of draining fat. Wah.... ok > I am better now... but can anyone enlighten me on these things? Kind > regards, Kinsey (fat drainer from Sacramento) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 > Kinsey, my friend, > > I wish that I were still draining fat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Doc > told me that I'd loose the apron AND the bulges above the apron. > Basically, he said I'd be more or less FLAT in the stomach. I'll need to > be in the CCU when I wake up because the shock (after 42 years of an > apron) will give me a heart attack. > > Jim Dear Jim, Please prepare yourself then, You do not want to go through all this just to have a heart attack! LOL Besides you will be seeing things way differently when you are able to stand up straight..... S in O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 Hi Pat, Thank you for telling me about your experience. I was kind of getting worried about the on going drainage. I feel better about it now. I might catch up on that record though. 87 days and counting. Bless you Pat. Kinsey in Sacramento - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 Hi Sharon, Thank you for the information and the well wishes... I needed them. I send you my best also. Take care. Kinsey in Sacramento - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 Kinsey, I live in Roseville if you ever need cheering up! Just call...or should I say, ASK and I'll email you my #! C -55lbs switched 12/05/02 > Hi Sharon, > > Thank you for the information and the well wishes... I needed > them. I send you my best also. Take care. > Kinsey in Sacramento > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 Hi , I'm in Orangevale but consider myself in Sacramento. Nice to know you are close by. I would love to connect with you. If you need cheering up I extend the same to you. Take care. Kinsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2003 Report Share Posted April 29, 2003 > I have been lurking and not posting for quite a while, not much new > happening. I thought my weight loss was very slow for me, but I > realize that everyone loses differently (as Dr. K told me twice!) and > that I'm not really losing too slowly. I have lost about 55 pounds > in the last 3 1/2 months so I'm happy. My PCP is still adjusting my > thyroid meds as they don't seem to be within range, but I guess that > shouldn't affect my weight loss (as Dr. K has also told me!). I was > having a little bit of depression and being emotional about > everything until about 10 weeks out from surgery when my PCP put me > back on my hormones, and that really made a world of difference! > > I have heard that no one can absorb more than about 30 grams of > protein at a time, but I was wondering how much calcium gets absorbed > at a time? I take a 500 mg Viactiv, is that too much at one time? > And should I take it with the multi vitamin at the same time? Or is > that too much for our systems to absorb? > > Any help is appreciated. > > Thanks, Judy E in Eureka @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@2 Judy, You should be taking 3 of those 500mg Viactiv a day,but not all at once morning,noon and nite is what I would do as you need atleast 1500mg calcium a day. Hope this helps God bless and the weight is really coming off,good for you!! Pat in Taft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2003 Report Share Posted April 29, 2003 Judy, First of all, 55lbs in 3 1/2 months is great! Don't let the accomplishments of anyone make you feel like you're a failure! I've always called myself a slow loser and when I started, I didn't think I'd ever actually even see size 14 as I started at a size 28..here I am, over a year later, wearing size 14! Yeah, there are people that lose until they're size 8 or size 4, etc, which is wonderful, but given that size 14 is the size of the average American woman, realistically, anything else is just gravy! Now, of course, most of us like gravy *grins*, but it's just not the end of the world if we don't have it Also, 500mg of Viactiv should be fine..I take 500mg of calcium citrate 3x a day, so I get 1500mg total. How you absorb it can vary though..my slacker friend, whose a Dr J patient, takes 1 calcium supplement a day and her calcium is normal and my calcium is low and my PTH is high! She does drink milk and I don't, but obviously, I'm going to need to be more diligent with my calcium! *hugs* Anita in Denver 11/08/01 Dr Keshishian 327lbs -> 185lbs Size 28 -> Size 14 > I have been lurking and not posting for quite a while, not much new > happening. I thought my weight loss was very slow for me, but I > realize that everyone loses differently (as Dr. K told me twice!) and > that I'm not really losing too slowly. I have lost about 55 pounds > in the last 3 1/2 months so I'm happy. My PCP is still adjusting my > thyroid meds as they don't seem to be within range, but I guess that > shouldn't affect my weight loss (as Dr. K has also told me!). I was > having a little bit of depression and being emotional about > everything until about 10 weeks out from surgery when my PCP put me > back on my hormones, and that really made a world of difference! > > I have heard that no one can absorb more than about 30 grams of > protein at a time, but I was wondering how much calcium gets absorbed > at a time? I take a 500 mg Viactiv, is that too much at one time? > And should I take it with the multi vitamin at the same time? Or is > that too much for our systems to absorb? > > Any help is appreciated. > > Thanks, Judy E in Eureka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Let's see if I can summarize some of the theories. These are not in any particular order 1. The shots may provide a slower (at least initially) release, which may be good for some, not as good for others. 2. The shot may have better access to the liver or other organs. 3. The spray may have better access to the CNS, the brain or other organs. 4. The nasal mucosa my have a lower PH balance than sub-q fat and thus may be more efficient in keeping the MB12 molecule sustained. (I keep getting brushed off about this, but I feel there is something to it. Acid breaks down MB12). 5. The nasal mucosa has better blood flow than sub-q fat. 6. Generally speaking, there may be a benefit in the way sub-q fat releases MB12 for some people. 7. Generally speaking, there may be a benefit in the say the spray releases MB12 for some people. 8. The nasal mucosa may be more efficient at holding some MB12 and " leaking " it out slowly to the blood stream after a fast initial pulse (Dr. Neubrander suggested something like this). About being spacey: I have seen folinic be an issue. I have also seen the issue be too high of a dosage, lack of food, lack of other needed supporting vitamins (which are different for each child) and some kids who just don't stand MB12 very will for one reason or another. A significant amount of kids respond very well to MB12... but some don't. I would work on the suggestions above, first taking out the folinic and lowering the dosage and then slowly add supporting vitamins and see from there. - Stan > > Stan, > I am wondering if my 12 year old is not responding, and is even spacier > and more nonresponsive after 5 days on the spray, because of the folinic. > (He hates the spray and it is a huge struggle, as well. But it does not > drip out so I know it's getting it). You had asked about supplements. He > is only taking a minerals supplement but nothing else. Could this lack of > B vitamin supplementation cause this spaciness? Is there a theory as to > why some kids respond better to the shot than the spray? > > Another question is, if folinic is necessary to the methylation process, > how is it that kids become responders once the folinic is removed from > the compounding? Do you supplement folinic another way then? > > Finally, is there any correlation, positive or negative, between > responsiveness to mB112 and responsiveness to valtrex? We have not > started valtrex yet but hope to soon. Is adequate methylation (from the > mB12) necessary to effectiveness of the antiviral valtrex? > Thanks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 And no! I would not use any preservative for my child with autism. That could have been how the whole thing started. Here are some references regarding benzyl alcohol related reactions. ------- Adverse reactions to vitamin B12 injections due to benzyl alcohol sensitivity: successful treatment with intranasal [nasal spray] cyanocobalamin. Turvey SE, Cronin B, Arnold AD, Twarog FJ, Dioun AF. Division of Immunology, Children's Hospital, 300 Longwood Avenue, Boston, MA 02115, USA. stuart.turvey@... Publication Types: • Case Reports PMID: 15291924 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ---- 1: Contact Dermatitis. 1975 Oct;1(5):281-4. Related Articles, Links Allergic paraben and benzyl alcohol hypersensitivity relationship of the " delayed " and " immediate " varieties. Fisher AA. From a review of the literature, and the results of scratch, intracutaneous and subcutaneous injections of patients with parbens and benzyl alcohol sensitivity of the delayed type characterized by allergic contact dermatitis and strongly positive patch patch tests, it would appear that such sensitivity is not usually accompanied by the immediate urticarial type of allergic sensitivity. This communication concerns itself with results of testing patients with clinical sensitivity and positive patch test reactions to the parabens or benzyl alcohol with scratch, intracutaneous and subcutaneous injections of these preservatives in order to determine the relationship of the " delayed " type of allergic hypersensitivity to the parabens and benzyl alcohol with the " immediate " variety of hypersensitivity. The parabens and benzyl alcohol are widely employed as preservatives for many allergenic extracts used in scratch and intracutaneous testing. In addition, these preservatives are used in injectable corticosteroid medicaments and in local anesthetic solutions. In order to determine whether the presence of these preservatives in allergenic extracts would produce false positive scratch or intracutaneous tests or might produce an immediate, urticarial or anaphylactic reaction in patients with allergic contact dermatitis and positive patch test reactions to these preservatives, two patients with positive patch test reactions and allergic contact dermatitis to the parabens and two with similar benzyl alcohol sensitivity were tested in the manner detailed in the following case reports. Publication Types: Case Reports PMID: 139248 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ---- Contact Dermatitis. 1999 Nov;41(5):302-3. Related Articles, Links Allergic contact dermatitis from benzyl alcohol during topical antimycotic treatment. Podda M, Zollner T, Grundmann-Kollmann M, Kaufmann R, Boehncke WH. Department of Dermatology, J.W. Goethe University, furt am Main, Germany. Publication Types: Case Reports PMID: 10554077 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ---- Also, here are some B12 nasal spray references in the literature... if b12 worked orally or subligually, why would they make an RX nasal spray/gel? B12 by nose instead of by needle. [No authors listed] AIDS: AIDS patients are vulnerable to B12 deficiencies and some have countered malabsorption with regular B12 injections. A new gel has been developed for intranasal administration and is available by prescription. Nascobal (cyanocobalamin, USP) is administered into one nostril weekly and sustains a more consistent blood level of the vitamin than monthly injections. Publication Types: • Newspaper Article Posit Aware. 1998 Jan-Feb;9(1):17. Related Articles, Links New vitamin B-12 gel, instead of injection. Vazquez E. AIDS: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved Nascobal, a gel formulation of Vitamin B-12 that is pumped inside the nose. The drug costs about $60 for 8 treatments and is used to prevent or reverse nerve damage and prevent memory problems and dementia. s Hopkins uses the drug as standard treatment for HIV cognitive dysfunction. Publication Types: • Newspaper Article Ann Pharmacother. 1999 May;33(5):641-3. Related Articles, Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Hi ,good point! My kids had the same type diagnoses. It changed as they had more trouble adjusting in social and academic areas. Our pyschologist told me that kids on the spectrum are really a little of each type of autism and not truly one type. He said they will fluctuate and that those changing diagnoses really only mean something to writers in medical journals and Dr.s who discuss patients. I find this is true with my kids. They do change often in their behaviors and symptoms. Its always a new day for us. Best wishes, Tishanne > > When our children get older do we ever understand more about them? > Why is it that the diagnosis's of these kids might change as they get > older? I mean my son's first years were just global dev. delay, not > on the autistic spectrum. Now that he's 7 he's got the PDD from a > psychiatrist. It's like as he gets older and more responsibilities > are asked of him more things come out in symptoms and behavior. Is > this typical of Autism spectrum disorders? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Hi, Hi, ! Yes this is normal. is 2, and while not regressing, I do see more signs of Autism every day. Why? It's because more is required of him...more motor planning, more words are expected at his age, etc.....Also with 's motor planning issues he was not able to pace like he can now, and or open and close doors the will has been there from the beginning, the power to regulate is only now coming...so now we are not just working on words, temperament, etc...we are working on things that will help him stim less... e To: AutismBehaviorProblems Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:58:56 PMSubject: Questions When our children get older do we ever understand more about them? Why is it that the diagnosis's of these kids might change as they getolder? I mean my son's first years were just global dev. delay, noton the autistic spectrum. Now that he's 7 he's got the PDD from apsychiatrist. It's like as he gets older and more responsibilitiesare asked of him more things come out in symptoms and behavior. Isthis typical of Autism spectrum disorders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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