Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 My nephew was just diagnosed with cats scratch today and a staph infection. He is four and has been gioven a 10 presription for Septra and 5 days of zithro. I along with my 3 children have been diagnosed with chronic Lyme. I would bet everything I own that all three of my sister's kids and her have Lyme disease as well but she will not be convinced. We both grew up in Wisconsin and Arkansas and have history of tick bites. I of course have done so much research on these infection and DO NOT think that a short course of antibiotics is going to fix this. I have alot of concerns with their health but she will not listen to anything I say about it. Another concern of mine is the fact that my newphew has recently spent tie with us with this staph infection. Is it possable for my kids to get that? They have been on antibiotics now for a little over a year. I hear things about super bugs and how it can be antibiotic resistent anyone have any info. on this. It is my undrstanding that it can take 7-10 days for things to "set" in. My 10 year old is going to be having a port placed on Dec. 16th and now with all this stuff going on I'm a little worried. My kids were at my sisters house Sun. night as well. Any information would be helpful. Kari Subject: Re: BartonellaTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 9:55 PM :Does your brother have any symptoms? One could get any infection and never show symptoms or get severe symptoms, or be a carrier for many years and then show symptoms later. It just depends upon many factors. Red wine kills Bartonella. I don't think you could rid it totally just by drinking red wine, but lets say one did drink a glass of red wine a day. They may keep it in control and never develop symptoms. I hear age 40 is an age that some develop symptoms when they somehow escape symptoms at earlier ages. Thus, we can be carriers, but keep the pathogens at too low a level to make us ill -- with many things contributing to this situation. Many say that toxins make the pathogens grow in us. It's a complicated picture. Often its said in the medical arena that being exposed to or having a past infection is different than having a current infection. Unfortunately, we all have symptoms in my family, so its definitely affecting us. Let me also add that if one was a carrier, they can still spread the infection to others, making it a problem whether showing symptoms or not.Love and prayers,Heidi N >> I am pretty sure my brother had this in high school. I Googled> bartonella images and saw the rash that I remember from over 20> years ago. Does anyone know how this might affect him today?> > What type of natural treatments are done for bartonella?> > My son had Igenex Lyme testing and had some positive bands...not> positive according to CDC, but probably positive for a Lyme doc.> I think I will test him for co-infections as he is a tough nut and> has not really responded to much in the biomedical realm. I did some> energy testing on him (via computer technology) and bartonella came up> near the top of the list.> > Does anyone recommend books by Schaller? I have seen them on > line.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Kari, Staph bacteria can contaminate bedclothes, towels, etc. There is a study estimating 40% of the population carry some strain of staph in the nostrils for varying periods of time. Using Xlear nasal spray several times throughout the day might be useful as a preventative care. Staph loves iron. When having an acute infection, it might be wise to stop taking supplements that contains iron for a while. Limin From: Kari Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 22:03 To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Bartonella My nephew was just diagnosed with cats scratch today and a staph infection. He is four and has been gioven a 10 presription for Septra and 5 days of zithro. I along with my 3 children have been diagnosed with chronic Lyme. I would bet everything I own that all three of my sister's kids and her have Lyme disease as well but she will not be convinced. We both grew up in Wisconsin and Arkansas and have history of tick bites. I of course have done so much research on these infection and DO NOT think that a short course of antibiotics is going to fix this. I have alot of concerns with their health but she will not listen to anything I say about it. Another concern of mine is the fact that my newphew has recently spent tie with us with this staph infection. Is it possable for my kids to get that? They have been on antibiotics now for a little over a year. I hear things about super bugs and how it can be antibiotic resistent anyone have any info. on this. It is my undrstanding that it can take 7-10 days for things to "set" in. My 10 year old is going to be having a port placed on Dec. 16th and now with all this stuff going on I'm a little worried. My kids were at my sisters house Sun. night as well. Any information would be helpful. Kari Subject: Re: BartonellaTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 9:55 PM :Does your brother have any symptoms? One could get any infection and never show symptoms or get severe symptoms, or be a carrier for many years and then show symptoms later. It just depends upon many factors. Red wine kills Bartonella. I don't think you could rid it totally just by drinking red wine, but lets say one did drink a glass of red wine a day. They may keep it in control and never develop symptoms. I hear age 40 is an age that some develop symptoms when they somehow escape symptoms at earlier ages. Thus, we can be carriers, but keep the pathogens at too low a level to make us ill -- with many things contributing to this situation. Many say that toxins make the pathogens grow in us. It's a complicated picture. Often its said in the medical arena that being exposed to or having a past infection is different than having a current infection. Unfortunately, we all have symptoms in my family, so its definitely affecting us. Let me also add that if one was a carrier, they can still spread the infection to others, making it a problem whether showing symptoms or not.Love and prayers,Heidi N >> I am pretty sure my brother had this in high school. I Googled> bartonella images and saw the rash that I remember from over 20> years ago. Does anyone know how this might affect him today?> > What type of natural treatments are done for bartonella?> > My son had Igenex Lyme testing and had some positive bands...not> positive according to CDC, but probably positive for a Lyme doc.> I think I will test him for co-infections as he is a tough nut and> has not really responded to much in the biomedical realm. I did some> energy testing on him (via computer technology) and bartonella came up> near the top of the list.> > Does anyone recommend books by Schaller? I have seen them on > line.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Thanks Heidi that makes me feel a lot better! I was really upset about it! Kari Subject: Re: BartonellaTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 7:25 AM Kari: This is the way it was explained to me. Pretty much everyone has Staph on their skin, but sometimes it mutates into this form that is antibiotic resistant. This form is still not a problem unless it gets into an open cut and causes an infection. then one gets a staph infection. If this staph happens to be of the mutated form, either spontaneously developed on you or transferred to you from someone else or something else (staph can live on clothes, etc. for quite a while), then you have big problems. You should know right away if you have a flesh-eating staph infection because it kills flesh at an alarmingly quick rate. In hours you will have dead tissue, by the next day, you might have a large portion of your body full of dead skin and muscle. Thus, its dangerous because of how quick it kills tissue. But not all flesh-eating staph is antibiotic resistant, nor is all antibiotic-resistan t staph, flesh eating. Thus, once again, we have numerous possible situations. I hope I am not talking scarey again. My babysitter had the flesh-eating staph. She also has diabetes, so this is why she got the infection. She picked it up at a continuing education class for childcare workers. How ironic. Hers did respond to antibiotics, but she had to have muscle and skin removed, and a blood transfusion. My children, who were very young at the time, did not develop any infections. My point here was not to talk scarey, but to say that my children did not catch this scarey infection, even though she changed their diapers, etc. Basically, staph in most cases will not harm, but can cause infections in vulnerable conditions like open sores. And rarer still are antibiotic resistant or flesh-eating forms. Cleaning as much as possible where you think it could be growing, may be helpful, and definitely look into treating any scratches or cuts with something to kill bacteria just in case they have this on their skin. But actually, we come into contact with people daily who are staph carriers. Love and prayers, Heidi N My nephew was just diagnosed with cats scratch today and a staph infection. He is four and has been gioven a 10 presription for Septra and 5 days of zithro. I along with my 3 children have been diagnosed with chronic Lyme. I would bet everything I own that all three of my sister's kids and her have Lyme disease as well but she will not be convinced. We both grew up in Wisconsin and Arkansas and have history of tick bites. I of course have done so much research on these infection and DO NOT think that a short course of antibiotics is going to fix this. I have alot of concerns with their health but she will not listen to anything I say about it. Another concern of mine is the fact that my newphew has recently spent tie with us with this staph infection. Is it possable for my kids to get that? They have been on antibiotics now for a little over a year. I hear things about super bugs and how it can be antibiotic resistent anyone have any info. on this. It is my undrstanding that it can take 7-10 days for things to "set" in. My 10 year old is going to be having a port placed on Dec. 16th and now with all this stuff going on I'm a little worried. My kids were at my sisters house Sun. night as well. Any information would be helpful.Kari Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Here is Dr. RS's a short explanation of MARCoNS (Multiply antibiotic resistant coagulase negative staphylococci) -- "These colonizers of the skin and nose of MSH-deficient patients make biofilms that let them differentiate and live as a community of bacteria In a biofilm colony, individual MARCoNS may variously make antibiotic resistance factors, hemolyins (small proteins that help the bacteria obtain iron) that activate cytokine responses and exotoxins that split and inactivate MSH. When a mold patient has a biofilm-forming MARCoNS and low MSH, clinical improvement will not occur until the MARCoNS is eradicated." Limin From: Ambitionn01@... Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 06:25 To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Bartonella Kari: This is the way it was explained to me. Pretty much everyone has Staph on their skin, but sometimes it mutates into this form that is antibiotic resistant. This form is still not a problem unless it gets into an open cut and causes an infection. then one gets a staph infection. If this staph happens to be of the mutated form, either spontaneously developed on you or transferred to you from someone else or something else (staph can live on clothes, etc. for quite a while), then you have big problems. You should know right away if you have a flesh-eating staph infection because it kills flesh at an alarmingly quick rate. In hours you will have dead tissue, by the next day, you might have a large portion of your body full of dead skin and muscle. Thus, its dangerous because of how quick it kills tissue. But not all flesh-eating staph is antibiotic resistant, nor is all antibiotic-resistant staph, flesh eating. Thus, once again, we have numerous possible situations. I hope I am not talking scarey again. My babysitter had the flesh-eating staph. She also has diabetes, so this is why she got the infection. She picked it up at a continuing education class for childcare workers. How ironic. Hers did respond to antibiotics, but she had to have muscle and skin removed, and a blood transfusion. My children, who were very young at the time, did not develop any infections. My point here was not to talk scarey, but to say that my children did not catch this scarey infection, even though she changed their diapers, etc. Basically, staph in most cases will not harm, but can cause infections in vulnerable conditions like open sores. And rarer still are antibiotic resistant or flesh-eating forms. Cleaning as much as possible where you think it could be growing, may be helpful, and definitely look into treating any scratches or cuts with something to kill bacteria just in case they have this on their skin. But actually, we come into contact with people daily who are staph carriers. Love and prayers, Heidi N My nephew was just diagnosed with cats scratch today and a staph infection. He is four and has been gioven a 10 presription for Septra and 5 days of zithro. I along with my 3 children have been diagnosed with chronic Lyme. I would bet everything I own that all three of my sister's kids and her have Lyme disease as well but she will not be convinced. We both grew up in Wisconsin and Arkansas and have history of tick bites. I of course have done so much research on these infection and DO NOT think that a short course of antibiotics is going to fix this. I have alot of concerns with their health but she will not listen to anything I say about it. Another concern of mine is the fact that my newphew has recently spent tie with us with this staph infection. Is it possable for my kids to get that? They have been on antibiotics now for a little over a year. I hear things about super bugs and how it can be antibiotic resistent anyone have any info. on this. It is my undrstanding that it can take 7-10 days for things to "set" in. My 10 year old is going to be having a port placed on Dec. 16th and now with all this stuff going on I'm a little worried. My kids were at my sisters house Sun. night as well. Any information would be helpful.Kari Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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