Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Heidi, Dr. RS has an unique way of explaining a Herxheimer reaction (die-off reaction). He believes that Herxheimer reaction is caused by rapidly rising matrix metalloproteinase-9 (MMP9) and tumor necrosis factor (TNF). When the body is exposed to biotoxins, or taking antimicrobial herbs to kill pathogens and stir up biotoxins, the toxins arouse heavy cytokine bombardment. It's (high) MMP9 that delivers very powerful pro-inflammatory cytokines (unregulated cytokines) to make symptoms worsening. I recently tested Ingvar for MMP9. His level seems to be fine. (But I need to double check if the reference range is adjusted for his age group.) I don't know if this is the reason that Ingvar has never herxed. He tolerates well many different antimicrobial herbs in high dose, except for LDM-100, which I think that his body is not ready for it. The next thing on our to-do-test is TNFa. Here is Ingvar's lab result: http://slett.net/public/reports/mmp9-msh-leptin.pdf Limin -------------------------------------------------- Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 13:30 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > Subject: Heidi N's Update > Hi family: > > I thought I would share some thoughts on things with me. I had a > slew of relatives over for Thanksgiving, all from out of state, so I > have been occupied with that - you probably noticed me missing > somewhat. I have two products I want to mention. One is > NeuroNutrients from www.neurobiologix.com . This is a product my > daughter's doctor recommended. I am not into fancy vitamins, but > gave it a try, and I noticed a distinct difference, so now we all > take it. I do notice an improvement in concentration with it. We > only take two capsules a day instead of the recommended 4, and still > notice a difference. Thus, its quite affordable for a fancy > vitamin. > > The other thing is that yesterday I started taking Smilax to continue > with my de-worming plan. The directions say to take 15 drops, and I > took 5. Well, let me just say, I am herxing big-time. Further > research shows that it kills spirochete bacteria, lyme and > syphillis. Well, I don't know the entire long list of things it > kills, but it's definitely killing things in me. I was taken by > surprise. For some reason, I keep thinking my pathogen load is > lowered enough for me to not have big herxes with new products, but > that is not the case. Thus, I am disheartened that I am herxing this > strong, telling me that I am still full of all kinds of things. So, > I will be re-starting with just one drop a day. The good news is > that it is killing things in me, so I can hopefully get rid of them. > It's also suppose to help the liver. I will keep using it and see > what happens. I would be happy to hear from anyone who has used it. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Since I am not sure how well Algas binds, I would recommend using a binder like alginates or modifilan with it. Nutramedix makes it, and I currently buy my Nutramedix products from www.myherbs.net Algas is also an immune booster. What a great combination, kills pathogens and rids toxins. I wish there were more science on it. It's made from Gigartina chamissol. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > > There have been some changes to our protocol, here is our experience. > > > > d-ribose: The first day I took this, I thought I got hit by a mack > > truck. I didn't even want to continue taking it, but the science > > behind it was so good, that I kept on. After two grueling weeks, I > > am feeling better than I was before taking it. My 17-year old also > > had some die-off feelings, my young ones acted like I gave them super- > > energy pills, and have been wrestling, singing, talking and laughing > > more than ever. Thus, thumbs up for d-ribose. And, supposedly, the > > benefits continue over time, so that would be nice. I think the > > initial die-off is the way it stirs up pathogens and toxins. I > > recommend being on things to bind to toxins and kill pathogens when > > starting d-ribose > > > > Monolaurin: The first day I took this, the die-was tolerable. Day > > two, I took two, and the die-was unbearable. I was hurting. The > > rest of the family did not appear to be that much affected. After > > about a 10 days, I finally adjusted, to where I can take two capsules > > with little die-off. I plan on taking 4 capules a day, and see what > > happens. > > > > Algas: I am saving the best for last. This is my new favorite > > thing. When I was having my die-off, I was using all kinds of things > > (Unda 243, Burbur, parsley, pinella, yucca, chorophyll, molybdenon, > > and the usual things I take daily like Turmeric, modifilan, ginger > > root, broccoli sprouts,etc.). But guess what worked 5 times better > > for me than any of these - Algas. It's my new favorite! Now I take it > > everyday. Algas mobilizes metals from within the cells. I am also on > > modifilan as a binder, so not sure how effective the Algas would be > > without it. I really don't know that much about Algas, but a month > > ago, I was also herxing bad, and Algas worked the best then as well. > > I wish I knew more about it. But for now, I am taking it, and as long > > as it is making me feel this good, I am sold. > > > > Now that I am back on my feet, I have to get cleaning this house - > > what a mess! Oh, and I just ordered a bunch of fruit trees and will > > be planting vegetables. If I can't find healthy food in the stores, I > > will grow my own. > > > > Love and prayers, > > > > Heidi N > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Algas (red algae) is extracted from Gigartina chamissoi, growing in the Pacific Ocean off the Peruvian coast. It is a metal mobilizer. It mobilize heavy metals from the interior of the cells, but it does not well bind to metals to drag them out of the body. Heidi is right to use alginates or Modifilan (brown algae) to help mopping up metals. If you can tolerate (cracked) Chlorella, it is a good metal binder and a biotoxin binder as well. Dr. Dale W. of NASA says that " It has been amply demonstrated that Chlorella can be used in a closed ecological system... Chlorella is so nutritionally complete that astronauts could survive on it alone for long periods of time. " Limin -------------------------------------------------- Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 06:02 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > Subject: Re: Heidi N's Update > Since I am not sure how well Algas binds, I would recommend using a > binder like alginates or modifilan with it. Nutramedix makes it, and > I currently buy my Nutramedix products from www.myherbs.net Algas is > also an immune booster. What a great combination, kills pathogens and > rids toxins. I wish there were more science on it. It's made from > Gigartina chamissol. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > > > >> >> > There have been some changes to our protocol, here is our > experience. >> > >> > d-ribose: The first day I took this, I thought I got hit by a mack >> > truck. I didn't even want to continue taking it, but the science >> > behind it was so good, that I kept on. After two grueling weeks, I >> > am feeling better than I was before taking it. My 17-year old also >> > had some die-off feelings, my young ones acted like I gave them > super- >> > energy pills, and have been wrestling, singing, talking and > laughing >> > more than ever. Thus, thumbs up for d-ribose. And, supposedly, the >> > benefits continue over time, so that would be nice. I think the >> > initial die-off is the way it stirs up pathogens and toxins. I >> > recommend being on things to bind to toxins and kill pathogens > when >> > starting d-ribose >> > >> > Monolaurin: The first day I took this, the die-was tolerable. Day >> > two, I took two, and the die-was unbearable. I was hurting. The >> > rest of the family did not appear to be that much affected. After >> > about a 10 days, I finally adjusted, to where I can take two > capsules >> > with little die-off. I plan on taking 4 capules a day, and see > what >> > happens. >> > >> > Algas: I am saving the best for last. This is my new favorite >> > thing. When I was having my die-off, I was using all kinds of > things >> > (Unda 243, Burbur, parsley, pinella, yucca, chorophyll, > molybdenon, >> > and the usual things I take daily like Turmeric, modifilan, ginger >> > root, broccoli sprouts,etc.). But guess what worked 5 times better >> > for me than any of these - Algas. It's my new favorite! Now I > take it >> > everyday. Algas mobilizes metals from within the cells. I am also > on >> > modifilan as a binder, so not sure how effective the Algas would > be >> > without it. I really don't know that much about Algas, but a month >> > ago, I was also herxing bad, and Algas worked the best then as > well. >> > I wish I knew more about it. But for now, I am taking it, and as > long >> > as it is making me feel this good, I am sold. >> > >> > Now that I am back on my feet, I have to get cleaning this house - >> > what a mess! Oh, and I just ordered a bunch of fruit trees and > will >> > be planting vegetables. If I can't find healthy food in the > stores, I >> > will grow my own. >> > >> > Love and prayers, >> > >> > Heidi N >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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